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Post by frozendisc on Sept 19, 2023 6:36:03 GMT -7
If they go 0-3..... TT should look to trade, Bosa....can they get a 1st? KA....1st or 2nd? MW....1st? JC....God, only a 3rd probably, if that. Ekeler.....2nd? Yes, there would be plenty of losing to follow, but that also means your own first is a high pick. Bosa could prob get a 3rd from a team that could afford him.
KA nope... Too old, why trade any pick for him.
MW nope... Maybe a 4th or lower to a team desperate for a WR.
JC nope... Expensive contract, coming off a major injury, and he sucks.
Ekeler... OMG KEEP HIM HE IS CHEAP... Who do you replace him with?
All of the players are paid for for this year, it is next year I am looking at. Bosa is not worth the money, hasn't been for years now. KA is, but won't be under contract. a new contract might be cost prohibitive. MW is expensive, and under contract, but if the pick offered was high enough, embrace the rebuild. JC has been a bust, it happens, time to accept it and walk away. Ekeler won't be under contract, and will be wanting top dollar and term. Too old to go that route.
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Post by boltnut on Sept 19, 2023 6:37:25 GMT -7
Keenan Allen is quietly Top-10 in receptions, yards, and TD's.
The model of consistency.
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 19, 2023 6:43:13 GMT -7
Keenan Allen is quietly Top-10 in receptions, yards, and TD's. The model of consistency. Top shelf WR with a offence scheme that is solid, so no surprise he is performing so well.
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 19, 2023 6:59:53 GMT -7
If they go 0-3..... TT should look to trade, Bosa....can they get a 1st? KA....1st or 2nd? MW....1st? JC....God, only a 3rd probably, if that. Ekeler.....2nd? Yes, there would be plenty of losing to follow, but that also means your own first is a high pick. Bosa could prob get a 3rd from a team that could afford him.
KA nope... Too old, why trade any pick for him.
MW nope... Maybe a 4th or lower to a team desperate for a WR.
JC nope... Expensive contract, coming off a major injury, and he sucks.
Ekeler... OMG KEEP HIM HE IS CHEAP... Who do you replace him with?
I understand your view, but there are clubs out there that believe, and as their belief grows, their willingness to sell out for the now grows. Thinking about this year, and looking at your Chargers, you are the GM and get a call offering Arron Donald (in his prime) for Ekeler (in his prime) straight across trade, would you? Of course you would make that trade. Donald upgrades a defence that is terrible along the line, but specifically the middle. Yes, the offence takes a hit, but the hope is you can get by.... The point is the other club needs a top RB, and to get that they had to give up a top something.....their evaluation is they can get by with loss of that DT. Looking at that list of players, knowing the cap issues, who among them is on this club next year?
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 19, 2023 7:20:15 GMT -7
67.6 completion percentage 534 Yards 3 TD's 0 INT's 102.0 Passer Rating That is Herbert's stats for this year. I'll take those all freakin' day. Moore has been what was thought he would be. The offence is clearly not the problem. The defence continues to be....... BINGO we have a winner !
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 19, 2023 7:21:44 GMT -7
Keenan Allen is quietly Top-10 in receptions, yards, and TD's. The model of consistency. My Boi is just money !! Is he Jefferson ? No. Is he Tyreek Hill ? No. He's just straight money on the field !
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 19, 2023 7:23:54 GMT -7
I don't know. Kellen Moore dialing up Pipkins for a touchdown pass was such a beautiful sight.
Lombardi called him afterwards and said "Is that allowed ?"
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Post by sdc on Sept 19, 2023 7:28:34 GMT -7
Bosa could prob get a 3rd from a team that could afford him.
KA nope... Too old, why trade any pick for him.
MW nope... Maybe a 4th or lower to a team desperate for a WR.
JC nope... Expensive contract, coming off a major injury, and he sucks.
Ekeler... OMG KEEP HIM HE IS CHEAP... Who do you replace him with?
All of the players are paid for for this year, it is next year I am looking at. Bosa is not worth the money, hasn't been for years now. KA is, but won't be under contract. a new contract might be cost prohibitive. MW is expensive, and under contract, but if the pick offered was high enough, embrace the rebuild. JC has been a bust, it happens, time to accept it and walk away. Ekeler won't be under contract, and will be wanting top dollar and term. Too old to go that route. The NFL is not MLB. Teams that are out of serious playoff contention cannot benefit from a fire sale like they can in baseball. Talking about dismantling this team is nonsense. Lack of any real trade value for high dollar aging assets, along with the fact that NFL contracts are mostly built year to year, not to mention the stigma of quitting less than 20% into the season makes it a waste of time to even contemplate. One of the talking heads yesterday, it was an ex-HC I can't recall who, made a very interesting comment. It wasn't directed at the Chargers or Staley but it made me view things differently. He said that the main difference between a HC and a coordinator was that the coordinator job was a narrow one. An OC's only job is to score and score as frequently as possible. A DC's job is to prevent the other team from scoring. That's it, no more no less. Of course, getting turnovers and preventing turnovers is a big part of that. The HC has one job as well. That job is to win. Plain and simple. If you think about it that way, much changes. One example, you are on offense and looking to score to take the lead late in the game. The OC's only focus is to call plays that will result in the needed score. It's the HC is needs to tell him to slow down and not leave time on the clock. One manages the offense and one manages to totality of the situation. Looking at it from that perspective, I now see that Staley is an abject failure to this point as a HC. He prepares the team to be competitive week in and week out. His team is in a position to win against just about any opponent. But he fails at his task (winning) far more than he should based on his talent and where his team is late in games.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 19, 2023 7:31:23 GMT -7
I have my tickets for the Jets game. I have the hotel booked. I didn't know this but the NFL has a Premium Tailgate party for a fee. I saw tickets at 67 dollars each. A Hall of Famer hosts the event. It says award winning food, beer, and soda. Live entertainment.
Should I go Big League and get myself and my son tickets ?
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 19, 2023 7:35:08 GMT -7
All of the players are paid for for this year, it is next year I am looking at. Bosa is not worth the money, hasn't been for years now. KA is, but won't be under contract. a new contract might be cost prohibitive. MW is expensive, and under contract, but if the pick offered was high enough, embrace the rebuild. JC has been a bust, it happens, time to accept it and walk away. Ekeler won't be under contract, and will be wanting top dollar and term. Too old to go that route. The NFL is not MLB. Teams that are out of serious playoff contention cannot benefit from a fire sale like they can in baseball. Talking about dismantling this team is nonsense. Lack of any real trade value for high dollar aging assets, along with the fact that NFL contracts are mostly built year to year, not to mention the stigma of quitting less than 20% into the season makes it a waste of time to even contemplate. One of the talking heads yesterday, it was an ex-HC I can't recall who, made a very interesting comment. It wasn't directed at the Chargers or Staley but it made me view things differently. He said that the main difference between a HC and a coordinator was that the coordinator job was a narrow one. An OC's only job is to score and score as frequently as possible. A DC's job is to prevent the other team from scoring. That's it, no more no less. Of course, getting turnovers and preventing turnovers is a big part of that. The HC has one job as well. That job is to win. Plain and simple. If you think about it that way, much changes. One example, you are on offense and looking to score to take the lead late in the game. The OC's only focus is to call plays that will result in the needed score. It's the HC is needs to tell him to slow down and not leave time on the clock. One manages the offense and one manages to totality of the situation. Looking at it from that perspective, I now see that Staley is an abject failure to this point as a HC. He prepares the team to be competitive week in and week out. His team is in a position to win against just about any opponent. But he fails at his task (winning) far more than he should based on his talent and where his team is late in games. It's not often I agree with an entire post that is this long. I have always viewed the coaching in this light. Nominated for POTD.
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Post by lazylightning on Sept 19, 2023 7:41:10 GMT -7
I don’t think they do anything mid-season. Staley made the playoffs last year and will get the benefit of a whole season (like Lynn did in spite of the NE blowout). If Staley goes TT will go too. Could be better, could be worse. I have been saying this since last season. Either the Chargers pull it together or both TT and Staley are gone. I expect zero mid-season trades.
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 19, 2023 8:03:50 GMT -7
All of the players are paid for for this year, it is next year I am looking at. Bosa is not worth the money, hasn't been for years now. KA is, but won't be under contract. a new contract might be cost prohibitive. MW is expensive, and under contract, but if the pick offered was high enough, embrace the rebuild. JC has been a bust, it happens, time to accept it and walk away. Ekeler won't be under contract, and will be wanting top dollar and term. Too old to go that route. The NFL is not MLB. Teams that are out of serious playoff contention cannot benefit from a fire sale like they can in baseball. Talking about dismantling this team is nonsense. Lack of any real trade value for high dollar aging assets, along with the fact that NFL contracts are mostly built year to year, not to mention the stigma of quitting less than 20% into the season makes it a waste of time to even contemplate. One of the talking heads yesterday, it was an ex-HC I can't recall who, made a very interesting comment. It wasn't directed at the Chargers or Staley but it made me view things differently. He said that the main difference between a HC and a coordinator was that the coordinator job was a narrow one. An OC's only job is to score and score as frequently as possible. A DC's job is to prevent the other team from scoring. That's it, no more no less. Of course, getting turnovers and preventing turnovers is a big part of that. The HC has one job as well. That job is to win. Plain and simple. If you think about it that way, much changes. One example, you are on offense and looking to score to take the lead late in the game. The OC's only focus is to call plays that will result in the needed score. It's the HC is needs to tell him to slow down and not leave time on the clock. One manages the offense and one manages to totality of the situation. Looking at it from that perspective, I now see that Staley is an abject failure to this point as a HC. He prepares the team to be competitive week in and week out. His team is in a position to win against just about any opponent. But he fails at his task (winning) far more than he should based on his talent and where his team is late in games. This is nothing but a long version of the previously stated Staley needs to turn over the defence to a DC and get out of said DC's way.
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Post by moekid on Sept 19, 2023 8:17:49 GMT -7
The NFL is not MLB. Teams that are out of serious playoff contention cannot benefit from a fire sale like they can in baseball. Talking about dismantling this team is nonsense. Lack of any real trade value for high dollar aging assets, along with the fact that NFL contracts are mostly built year to year, not to mention the stigma of quitting less than 20% into the season makes it a waste of time to even contemplate. One of the talking heads yesterday, it was an ex-HC I can't recall who, made a very interesting comment. It wasn't directed at the Chargers or Staley but it made me view things differently. He said that the main difference between a HC and a coordinator was that the coordinator job was a narrow one. An OC's only job is to score and score as frequently as possible. A DC's job is to prevent the other team from scoring. That's it, no more no less. Of course, getting turnovers and preventing turnovers is a big part of that. The HC has one job as well. That job is to win. Plain and simple. If you think about it that way, much changes. One example, you are on offense and looking to score to take the lead late in the game. The OC's only focus is to call plays that will result in the needed score. It's the HC is needs to tell him to slow down and not leave time on the clock. One manages the offense and one manages to totality of the situation. Looking at it from that perspective, I now see that Staley is an abject failure to this point as a HC. He prepares the team to be competitive week in and week out. His team is in a position to win against just about any opponent. But he fails at his task (winning) far more than he should based on his talent and where his team is late in games. It's not often I agree with an entire post that is this long. I have always viewed the coaching in this light. Nominated for POTD. Staley is trying to be DC and HC. He isn’t good at either apparently. I wondered why his mentor didn’t end up with him when Denver fired him. Why would Fangio be in Miami last season as a consultant and now as DC? But clearly Staley needed to get a DC with experience who could handle that side of the ball. We don’t know if Ansley has it because Staley is holding onto the reigns. And failing |
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Post by moekid on Sept 19, 2023 8:19:43 GMT -7
Keenan Allen is quietly Top-10 in receptions, yards, and TD's. The model of consistency. My Boi is just money !! Is he Jefferson ? No. Is he Tyreek Hill ? No. He's just straight money on the field ! Keenan is a pro. He and Everett but Everett doesn’t get enough opportunities. I wish they’d give him more. He fights for yards like no one on the team. It’s inspiring |
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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 19, 2023 8:23:35 GMT -7
It's not often I agree with an entire post that is this long. I have always viewed the coaching in this light. Nominated for POTD. Staley is trying to be DC and HC. He isn’t good at either apparently. I wondered why his mentor didn’t end up with him when Denver fired him. Why would Fangio be in Miami last season as a consultant and now as DC? But clearly Staley needed to get a DC with experience who could handle that side of the ball. We don’t know if Ansley has it because Staley is holding onto the reigns. And failing Yeah. That’s the problem with hiring a DC/HC. It either works or it doesn’t. It didn’t work. |
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