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Post by jwr10x on Oct 19, 2023 10:32:56 GMT -7
At this point I would look at the 2 positions on our line both center and right tackle but hopefully we will have a better draft talent evaluator in charge than TT. Linsley may never play again and Pipkins is too much of a weakness when the opposing D lines up their top pass rushers on his side. QJ at this point looks like a reach pick , if they truly wanted an impact receiver in that draft they should not have passed on Zay Flowers.SO Monday Morning draft picking. Facts are still facts
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Post by boltnut on Oct 19, 2023 16:10:22 GMT -7
Everybody wanted a WR that could go deep and stretch the field... fans and organization. TT likes his receivers on the taller side. Of the 1st round graded WR's, QJ fit the need. Herbert doesn't trust him yet. Jury is still out.QJ needs to catch the ball when its thrown his way. Extra time at the jugs machine on max power is needed. I agree. But you won't find out if you never throw him the ball. He made a nice catch on a ball thrown too low. Didn't come down with a deep throw that he needed to fight for. He hasn't run any creative routes that get him open (underneath drag routes would be nice).
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Post by lightsout42 on Oct 20, 2023 5:00:07 GMT -7
QJ needs to catch the ball when its thrown his way. Extra time at the jugs machine on max power is needed. I agree. But you won't find out if you never throw him the ball. He made a nice catch on a ball thrown too low. Didn't come down with a deep throw that he needed to fight for. He hasn't run any creative routes that get him open (underneath drag routes would be nice). Agreed. I’m not worried about QJ. He’ll develop and Herbert will eventually have to use him more (if it’s not schemed in first). I’m more concerned about Herbert being off, though that’s probably due to injury and the new offense (and maybe getting used to more control of the offense). |
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 20, 2023 5:11:35 GMT -7
You guys do realize QJ got bitch owned on the INT that ended the game, right ?? The pass was coming low and short. Both the defender and QJ knew it. The sides of their bodies collided and QJ got completely outmuscled. The defender dove straight down for the ball, QJ eliminated. You gotta want it, and one of them did.
Look it up.
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Post by boltnut on Oct 20, 2023 6:40:43 GMT -7
I agree. But you won't find out if you never throw him the ball. He made a nice catch on a ball thrown too low. Didn't come down with a deep throw that he needed to fight for. He hasn't run any creative routes that get him open (underneath drag routes would be nice). Agreed. I’m not worried about QJ. He’ll develop and Herbert will eventually have to use him more (if it’s not schemed in first). I’m more concerned about Herbert being off, though that’s probably due to injury and the new offense (and maybe getting used to more control of the offense). Me too. Herbert is off. And it's not just his over-throws... underthrows... wide throws. He's not seeing open receivers. Maybe it's the new offense. Maybe it's his over-reliance on Keenan. But dude needs to figure it out... quickly. The Kellen Moore offense has become less and less creative each week. The defense has improved every week. The offense has not. There was a golden opportunity with Diggs and Vander Esche out. They missed.
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Post by lightsout42 on Oct 20, 2023 7:05:02 GMT -7
You guys do realize QJ got bitch owned on the INT that ended the game, right ?? The pass was coming low and short. Both the defender and QJ knew it. The sides of their bodies collided and QJ got completely outmuscled. The defender dove straight down for the ball, QJ eliminated. You gotta want it, and one of them did. Look it up. We can talk bust in year 2 or 3. Right now we have a problem in coaching and QB. You aren’t going to win with whatever offensive game plan they’re trotting out and the Golden Boy playing like Daniel Jones. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 20, 2023 8:18:28 GMT -7
You guys do realize QJ got bitch owned on the INT that ended the game, right ?? The pass was coming low and short. Both the defender and QJ knew it. The sides of their bodies collided and QJ got completely outmuscled. The defender dove straight down for the ball, QJ eliminated. You gotta want it, and one of them did. Look it up. We can talk bust in year 2 or 3. Right now we have a problem in coaching and QB. You aren’t going to win with whatever offensive game plan they’re trotting out and the Golden Boy playing like Daniel Jones. If we have to get right I pick this week to do it in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 20, 2023 14:01:37 GMT -7
Clearly the season has not gone well.....and big changes are coming, at least one would hope they are. My question to you all is, which path produces the worst results? Keep Staley and TT to season end, or fire them both today?
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 20, 2023 14:12:35 GMT -7
Agreed. I’m not worried about QJ. He’ll develop and Herbert will eventually have to use him more (if it’s not schemed in first). I’m more concerned about Herbert being off, though that’s probably due to injury and the new offense (and maybe getting used to more control of the offense). Me too. Herbert is off. And it's not just his over-throws... underthrows... wide throws. He's not seeing open receivers. Maybe it's the new offense. Maybe it's his over-reliance on Keenan. But dude needs to figure it out... quickly. The Kellen Moore offense has become less and less creative each week. The defense has improved every week. The offense has not. There was a golden opportunity with Diggs and Vander Esche out. They missed. What! Are you high? Look up the stats the defense has regressed... Our rush defense was decent up until Detroit. We gave up 533 yards to Detroit and 397 to Green Bay!
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Post by lazylightning on Nov 20, 2023 15:13:32 GMT -7
Everybody wanted a WR that could go deep and stretch the field... fans and organization. TT likes his receivers on the taller side. Of the 1st round graded WR's, QJ fit the need. Herbert doesn't trust him yet. Jury is still out.QJ needs to catch the ball when its thrown his way. Extra time at the jugs machine on max power is needed. One month and nothing's changed. QJ right now --> 
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Post by moekid on Nov 20, 2023 17:15:52 GMT -7
QJ needs to catch the ball when its thrown his way. Extra time at the jugs machine on max power is needed. One month and nothing's changed. QJ right now --> I’d make him inactive for the rest of the season. Dude doesn’t look he wants it and can’t catch. He’s a waste of a player on game day. I’d rather see hungrier guys out there |
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Post by boltnut on Nov 20, 2023 21:51:02 GMT -7
Me too. Herbert is off. And it's not just his over-throws... underthrows... wide throws. He's not seeing open receivers. Maybe it's the new offense. Maybe it's his over-reliance on Keenan. But dude needs to figure it out... quickly. The Kellen Moore offense has become less and less creative each week. The defense has improved every week. The offense has not. There was a golden opportunity with Diggs and Vander Esche out. They missed. What! Are you high? Look up the stats the defense has regressed... Our rush defense was decent up until Detroit. We gave up 533 yards to Detroit and 397 to Green Bay! You might want to look at the date of my post, brother.
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 21, 2023 5:42:29 GMT -7
What! Are you high? Look up the stats the defense has regressed... Our rush defense was decent up until Detroit. We gave up 533 yards to Detroit and 397 to Green Bay! You might want to look at the date of my post, brother. My bad BN!
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 21, 2023 6:19:15 GMT -7
Clearly the season has not gone well.....and big changes are coming, at least one would hope they are. My question to you all is, which path produces the worst results? Keep Staley and TT to season end, or fire them both today? Nothing until they are mathematically out of it. Its pointless. They can even wait until the end. Moore would only be temp. until they hired a new HC.
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Post by frozendisc on Nov 21, 2023 9:07:25 GMT -7
What! Are you high? Look up the stats the defense has regressed... Our rush defense was decent up until Detroit. We gave up 533 yards to Detroit and 397 to Green Bay! You might want to look at the date of my post, brother. What do you think of McKinstry ?
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