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Post by sonorajim on Jul 20, 2024 8:40:04 GMT -7
Being in a strong position at OLB is a fact. It's also true that we hope to lose no one and the 5 and practice squad all be very good. Few, if any teams are as well prepared at the position as LAC. Still, stuff happens. Rookies report in 10 days. Its the best OLB group in the NFL. Right. There's at least a 50/50 chance that we'll ride the NFL's best pass rush into the playoffs.
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 20, 2024 11:28:25 GMT -7
I'd give them Bosa and Palmer or QJ for Aiyuk and a draft pick. Harbaugh wouldn't. Bosa and Mack took restructured pay to win this year. That is coach's commitment. More like a new GM hoping to retain some talent and the offer was accepted IMHO. Didn't work so well with Allen though. I'm sure if the deal was sweet enough Bosa would be gone and we'd have a new #1 WR in his prime, right now we hope Bosa plays a whole season.
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 20, 2024 13:30:42 GMT -7
Harbaugh wouldn't. Bosa and Mack took restructured pay to win this year. That is coach's commitment. More like a new GM hoping to retain some talent and the offer was accepted IMHO. Didn't work so well with Allen though. I'm sure if the deal was sweet enough Bosa would be gone and we'd have a new #1 WR in his prime, right now we hope Bosa plays a whole season.
A great WR is nice to have. QB, OT, pass rush come 1st. Adding a WR without damaging the rush (or cap)? Good stuff.
Right now we have Bosa, Mack, Dupree and Tuli. We're in an excellent position to baby any booboos on a vet and still have three great rushers.
Allen had a great year, Mack had a great year and we went 5-12. The choice was Receiver or Rusher. Harbaugh and Hortiz decided Rush would be a more prudent choice given the desire to win NOW. Years when we had multiple top receivers went nowhere. But they had a passionate viewing audience.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 20, 2024 16:31:57 GMT -7
More like a new GM hoping to retain some talent and the offer was accepted IMHO. Didn't work so well with Allen though. I'm sure if the deal was sweet enough Bosa would be gone and we'd have a new #1 WR in his prime, right now we hope Bosa plays a whole season.
A great WR is nice to have. QB, OT, pass rush come 1st. Adding a WR without damaging the rush (or cap)? Good stuff.
Right now we have Bosa, Mack, Dupree and Tuli. We're in an excellent position to baby any booboos on a vet and still have three great rushers.
Allen had a great year, Mack had a great year and we went 5-12. The choice was Receiver or Rusher. Harbaugh and Hortiz decided Rush would be a more prudent choice given the desire to win NOW. Years when we had multiple top receivers went nowhere. But they had a passionate viewing audience. It would be really great to see Bosa play an entire year/season, but I would not bet using Freak's money on that happening! Question for you Jim, which group could better afford to lose a starter for the season, WR or Rush?
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 21, 2024 5:48:39 GMT -7
More like a new GM hoping to retain some talent and the offer was accepted IMHO. Didn't work so well with Allen though. I'm sure if the deal was sweet enough Bosa would be gone and we'd have a new #1 WR in his prime, right now we hope Bosa plays a whole season.
A great WR is nice to have. QB, OT, pass rush come 1st. Adding a WR without damaging the rush (or cap)? Good stuff.
Right now we have Bosa, Mack, Dupree and Tuli. We're in an excellent position to baby any booboos on a vet and still have three great rushers.
Allen had a great year, Mack had a great year and we went 5-12. The choice was Receiver or Rusher. Harbaugh and Hortiz decided Rush would be a more prudent choice given the desire to win NOW. Years when we had multiple top receivers went nowhere. But they had a passionate viewing audience. The conversation is getting skewed from the topic at hand, although I disagree with your point on front loading pass rush for win now mode. I was merely saying Bosa would be the trade partner in this situation and I would send him... Personally I think we are fine @ WR and the 49'ers trading Aiyuk seems unlikely.
Its an offensive oriented league Jim, the Dolphins have already shown how to stop even the best pass rush.
For this season to have any chance of success Ladd and QJ must step up. By saying that I'm not saying they won't, just pointing out the obvious.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 21, 2024 7:19:30 GMT -7
A great WR is nice to have. QB, OT, pass rush come 1st. Adding a WR without damaging the rush (or cap)? Good stuff.
Right now we have Bosa, Mack, Dupree and Tuli. We're in an excellent position to baby any booboos on a vet and still have three great rushers.
Allen had a great year, Mack had a great year and we went 5-12. The choice was Receiver or Rusher. Harbaugh and Hortiz decided Rush would be a more prudent choice given the desire to win NOW. Years when we had multiple top receivers went nowhere. But they had a passionate viewing audience. The conversation is getting skewed from the topic at hand, although I disagree with your point on front loading pass rush for win now mode. I was merely saying Bosa would be the trade partner in this situation and I would send him... Personally I think we are fine @ WR and the 49'ers trading Aiyuk seems unlikely.
Its an offensive oriented league Jim, the Dolphins have already shown how to stop even the best pass rush.
For this season to have any chance of success Ladd and QJ must step up. By saying that I'm not saying they won't, just pointing out the obvious.
It is fair to mention Bosa as a trade option, especially when talking 49'rs due to Bosa's brother being on that club. The challenge for any GM considering trading for Bosa is getting past the injury history before any thought about the trade value in talent gain/loss. It makes for a good article, but I don't see SF interested in making that trade.
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 21, 2024 8:34:00 GMT -7
The conversation is getting skewed from the topic at hand, although I disagree with your point on front loading pass rush for win now mode. I was merely saying Bosa would be the trade partner in this situation and I would send him... Personally I think we are fine @ WR and the 49'ers trading Aiyuk seems unlikely.
Its an offensive oriented league Jim, the Dolphins have already shown how to stop even the best pass rush.
For this season to have any chance of success Ladd and QJ must step up. By saying that I'm not saying they won't, just pointing out the obvious.
It is fair to mention Bosa as a trade option, especially when talking 49'rs due to Bosa's brother being on that club. The challenge for any GM considering trading for Bosa is getting past the injury history before any thought about the trade value in talent gain/loss. It makes for a good article, but I don't see SF interested in making that trade. Agreed, some see Bosa as a straight up trade based on who he is and when we drafted him. But in reality it would "likely" take more than just Bosa himself as he has not shown the ability to stay healthy, he is on the wrong side of football age, and he's (arguably) not exactly a Von Miller or Dwight Freeney talent.
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 21, 2024 9:05:30 GMT -7
A great WR is nice to have. QB, OT, pass rush come 1st. Adding a WR without damaging the rush (or cap)? Good stuff.
Right now we have Bosa, Mack, Dupree and Tuli. We're in an excellent position to baby any booboos on a vet and still have three great rushers.
Allen had a great year, Mack had a great year and we went 5-12. The choice was Receiver or Rusher. Harbaugh and Hortiz decided Rush would be a more prudent choice given the desire to win NOW. Years when we had multiple top receivers went nowhere. But they had a passionate viewing audience. The conversation is getting skewed from the topic at hand, although I disagree with your point on front loading pass rush for win now mode. I was merely saying Bosa would be the trade partner in this situation and I would send him... Personally I think we are fine @ WR and the 49'ers trading Aiyuk seems unlikely.
Its an offensive oriented league Jim, the Dolphins have already shown how to stop even the best pass rush.
For this season to have any chance of success Ladd and QJ must step up. By saying that I'm not saying they won't, just pointing out the obvious.
We'll need receivers. The NFL is still a passing league. Personally I like our guys. I'm way impatient for real training camp to start happening. Just saying pass rush is an LAC strength. It will impact opponents.
Honestly, I'd like to see Mia neutralize Minter's pass rush. Pretty sure we'll know where the ball is going if it comes out. There are limited opportunities for passes under 1.5 seconds.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 21, 2024 9:30:35 GMT -7
It is fair to mention Bosa as a trade option, especially when talking 49'rs due to Bosa's brother being on that club. The challenge for any GM considering trading for Bosa is getting past the injury history before any thought about the trade value in talent gain/loss. It makes for a good article, but I don't see SF interested in making that trade. Agreed, some see Bosa as a straight up trade based on who he is and when we drafted him. But in reality it would "likely" take more than just Bosa himself as he has not shown the ability to stay healthy, he is on the wrong side of football age, and he's (arguably) not exactly a Von Miller or Dwight Freeney talent. Bosa has been an injury concern for years now, as well as being nowhere near the talent the believers think he is. Horitz should find that one GM that is a believer, and trade Bosa sooner than later.....
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 21, 2024 9:47:10 GMT -7
The conversation is getting skewed from the topic at hand, although I disagree with your point on front loading pass rush for win now mode. I was merely saying Bosa would be the trade partner in this situation and I would send him... Personally I think we are fine @ WR and the 49'ers trading Aiyuk seems unlikely.
Its an offensive oriented league Jim, the Dolphins have already shown how to stop even the best pass rush.
For this season to have any chance of success Ladd and QJ must step up. By saying that I'm not saying they won't, just pointing out the obvious.
We'll need receivers. The NFL is still a passing league. Personally I like our guys. I'm way impatient for real training camp to start happening. Just saying pass rush is an LAC strength. It will impact opponents.
Honestly, I'd like to see Mia neutralize Minter's pass rush. Pretty sure we'll know where the ball is going if it comes out. There are limited opportunities for passes under 1.5 seconds.
I like the WR group as well..... IF there is a reasonable run game as well.
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 21, 2024 10:54:44 GMT -7
We'll need receivers. The NFL is still a passing league. Personally I like our guys. I'm way impatient for real training camp to start happening. Just saying pass rush is an LAC strength. It will impact opponents.
Honestly, I'd like to see Mia neutralize Minter's pass rush. Pretty sure we'll know where the ball is going if it comes out. There are limited opportunities for passes under 1.5 seconds.
I like the WR group as well..... IF there is a reasonable run game as well. Agree. Complementary run / pass is the intention of Harbaugh. Both depend on OL and play calling. We appear to be well set IMO.
BUT! Reality is, we're guessing. The training camp, LAR scrimmage, preseason games spanning Jul 29 first padded practice to Aug 24 final preseason will provide a lot more factual information.
ps: I like our RBs.
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 21, 2024 14:21:12 GMT -7
I like our WR's but to be honest it is a shaky endorsement. QJ NEEDS to improve and Palmer MUST come back from injury with the mindset he is the #1... I don't seem him as a #1 but he needs to show us.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 22, 2024 5:10:30 GMT -7
Agreed, some see Bosa as a straight up trade based on who he is and when we drafted him. But in reality it would "likely" take more than just Bosa himself as he has not shown the ability to stay healthy, he is on the wrong side of football age, and he's (arguably) not exactly a Von Miller or Dwight Freeney talent. Bosa has been an injury concern for years now, as well as being nowhere near the talent the believers think he is. Horitz should find that one GM that is a believer, and trade Bosa sooner than later..... But now they can run load management on Bosa. Start Tuli games 5, 10, 15; and start Bud Dupree game 17 when we have already clinched our playoff spot.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 22, 2024 6:19:16 GMT -7
Bosa has been an injury concern for years now, as well as being nowhere near the talent the believers think he is. Horitz should find that one GM that is a believer, and trade Bosa sooner than later..... But now they can run load management on Bosa. Start Tuli games 5, 10, 15; and start Bud Dupree game 17 when we have already clinched our playoff spot. Probably the approach they have in mind, but I don't think Bosa's injuries are due to overuse.....so.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 23, 2024 5:07:21 GMT -7
But now they can run load management on Bosa. Start Tuli games 5, 10, 15; and start Bud Dupree game 17 when we have already clinched our playoff spot. Probably the approach they have in mind, but I don't think Bosa's injuries are due to overuse.....so. No matter what, the more he plays the more exposed he is to injuries. If they can mitigate that with load management I am sure they are smart enough to do it. What are his injuries due to ? Being a nutjob ?
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