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Post by frozendisc on May 30, 2019 11:02:22 GMT -7
I just do not see it...."float through the easy regular season" as there really is no easy NFL game. I realize nobody is saying it, but the implications from the postings are that the Patriots sweep their division each and every season, then go win 4 or 5 games outside the division to earn that PO spot and bye week. Too busy to look it up, but I am doubting the Pats sweep their division. Say they win four of the six division games, that means they win seven or eight games outside the division. Is the current AFCE division weak, yep.....but it was not that long ago the AFCW was weak also, did any AFCW teams win multiple Super Bowls during that time frame.....nope. I understand the hate for the Patriots from fans, it seems to be a byproduct of winning too much. I just see a successful organization that maximizes its' position each and every time. The entire cry about the WC team having the better record is entertaining, but also irrelevant under current NFL rules. It simply is what it is..... But there really really are easier games puck plucker (I had to proof read THAT about 4 times before posting..........)
Playing Arizona at Home, versus NE away, is a galaxy of difference.
Gee, even the fantasy emperor could list a match up that supports his view. Patriots versus Bolts in the PO's last year. Did the Patriots prefer playing at home, certainly, but were they afraid to play in the soccer stadium, doubtful. If the Bolts had been completely healthy, the same could be said for them, home or away bring it on. My point is you are never playing a bad team in the PO's, and making or not making the PO's is slim as hell, making the teams on the outside not as bad as many think. Yes, each year there are those few teams that simply are inept, but even playing those teams, if you show up unfocused or unprepared, you could easily lose. Simply put.....the haves are generally respectful of the have nots, as even the slightest motivation can get you a real tussle of a game.
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Post by ohioboltfan on May 30, 2019 12:33:42 GMT -7
My least favorite topic on these Charger boards (plural because I'm including the pre-eviction era) has been the "Is It Time to Call Lamp A Bust?" thread. I'd rather read a Charger thread written in a foreign language and have to Google Translate it than another post in the 50+ pages of stubborn vitriol repeated ad nauseam in the Lamp/Bust thread.
However, a Patriots Thread on the Chargers board may devolve into a new winner for me.
{PS- no disrespect intended towards the thread starter or contributors, I just hate the Pats.}
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Post by joemcrugby on May 30, 2019 13:19:25 GMT -7
This will be the third consecutive season that the Patsies have the league’s easiest schedule: 2016 5-1 against the AFC East (83.3% winning) 9-1 against the rest of the league (90.0% winning facing opponents who went 67-90-2 over the season) In neither of the previous two seasons where they had the league’s easiest schedule did the Patriots have a similar record within the division and outside the division. Larger sample size beginning with the Brady era. Note: The quoted comes from another source and I haven't checked it: "In this decade the Patriots are 47-13 against the AFC East and 76-24 against the rest of the NFL. That's very very close to the same winning %. The Patriots since 2001 have averaged about 12.3 wins per season. Their win % vs teams in the AFC East is pretty much identical to their win % against teams outside of the AFC East." Understood. But this thread specifically started with an article about the fact that the Patriots are scheduled to have the easiest slate of games for the third consecutive season. First place matchups are supposed to ensure that a defending divisional champion is supposed to face a more difficult schedule except for an occasional anomaly. Three seasons in a row isn’t an anomaly; it is a trend, and that trend is due to the suckage factor of the AFC East. Of course this didn’t matter as much when the talent level was higher and Brady was younger, but it has played a big factor the past two seasons. I hope it doesn’t in 2019, but everything points to a week off in January to help prepare for a home divisional game due to how weak the AFC East has been and will probably continue to be.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 30, 2019 13:27:04 GMT -7
But there really really are easier games puck plucker (I had to proof read THAT about 4 times before posting..........)
Playing Arizona at Home, versus NE away, is a galaxy of difference.
Gee, even the fantasy emperor could list a match up that supports his view. Patriots versus Bolts in the PO's last year. Did the Patriots prefer playing at home, certainly, but were they afraid to play in the soccer stadium, doubtful. If the Bolts had been completely healthy, the same could be said for them, home or away bring it on. My point is you are never playing a bad team in the PO's, and making or not making the PO's is slim as hell, making the teams on the outside not as bad as many think. Yes, each year there are those few teams that simply are inept, but even playing those teams, if you show up unfocused or unprepared, you could easily lose. Simply put.....the haves are generally respectful of the have nots, as even the slightest motivation can get you a real tussle of a game. You said no easy game in the NFL. Now you say playoffs............................just in case you thought I fell into a coma or something..................
One Emperor
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Post by frozendisc on May 31, 2019 8:32:37 GMT -7
Gee, even the fantasy emperor could list a match up that supports his view. Patriots versus Bolts in the PO's last year. Did the Patriots prefer playing at home, certainly, but were they afraid to play in the soccer stadium, doubtful. If the Bolts had been completely healthy, the same could be said for them, home or away bring it on. My point is you are never playing a bad team in the PO's, and making or not making the PO's is slim as hell, making the teams on the outside not as bad as many think. Yes, each year there are those few teams that simply are inept, but even playing those teams, if you show up unfocused or unprepared, you could easily lose. Simply put.....the haves are generally respectful of the have nots, as even the slightest motivation can get you a real tussle of a game. You said no easy game in the NFL. Now you say playoffs............................just in case you thought I fell into a coma or something..................
One Emperor
As I said, the margin between making the PO's, and not making them, is the slimmest of margins. Yes, there are a couple teams that are just inept, but most are not. So every game is tough.....losing focus will get you beat, even if you are the supposedly better team, it is that close. Which is basically what I said in the rest of the sentence that you quoted only a portion of. One Lost Emperor......
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Post by moekid on May 31, 2019 8:50:56 GMT -7
Larger sample size beginning with the Brady era. Note: The quoted comes from another source and I haven't checked it: "In this decade the Patriots are 47-13 against the AFC East and 76-24 against the rest of the NFL. That's very very close to the same winning %. The Patriots since 2001 have averaged about 12.3 wins per season. Their win % vs teams in the AFC East is pretty much identical to their win % against teams outside of the AFC East." Understood. But this thread specifically started with an article about the fact that the Patriots are scheduled to have the easiest slate of games for the third consecutive season. First place matchups are supposed to ensure that a defending divisional champion is supposed to face a more difficult schedule except for an occasional anomaly. Three seasons in a row isn’t an anomaly; it is a trend, and that trend is due to the suckage factor of the AFC East. Of course this didn’t matter as much when the talent level was higher and Brady was younger, but it has played a big factor the past two seasons. I hope it doesn’t in 2019, but everything points to a week off in January to help prepare for a home divisional game due to how weak the AFC East has been and will probably continue to be. Since when does where a thread starts dictate where it goes? If the premise is that the Patriots benefit from the ineptness of the other AFC east teams, that seems easy enough. But they’ve won with a tougher afc east and a weak afc east. They just win. They won on the road in KC and won in the super bowl.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 31, 2019 8:56:38 GMT -7
Understood. But this thread specifically started with an article about the fact that the Patriots are scheduled to have the easiest slate of games for the third consecutive season. First place matchups are supposed to ensure that a defending divisional champion is supposed to face a more difficult schedule except for an occasional anomaly. Three seasons in a row isn’t an anomaly; it is a trend, and that trend is due to the suckage factor of the AFC East. Of course this didn’t matter as much when the talent level was higher and Brady was younger, but it has played a big factor the past two seasons. I hope it doesn’t in 2019, but everything points to a week off in January to help prepare for a home divisional game due to how weak the AFC East has been and will probably continue to be. Since when does where a thread starts dictate where it goes? If the premise is that the Patriots benefit from the ineptness of the other AFC east teams, that seems easy enough. But they’ve won with a tougher afc east and a weak afc east. They just win. They won on the road in KC and won in the super bowl. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm..........hmmmmmmmmmmm.........Namath........Marino...........I've got nothing here................
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Post by chargerfreak on May 31, 2019 9:00:26 GMT -7
Understood. But this thread specifically started with an article about the fact that the Patriots are scheduled to have the easiest slate of games for the third consecutive season. First place matchups are supposed to ensure that a defending divisional champion is supposed to face a more difficult schedule except for an occasional anomaly. Three seasons in a row isn’t an anomaly; it is a trend, and that trend is due to the suckage factor of the AFC East. Of course this didn’t matter as much when the talent level was higher and Brady was younger, but it has played a big factor the past two seasons. I hope it doesn’t in 2019, but everything points to a week off in January to help prepare for a home divisional game due to how weak the AFC East has been and will probably continue to be. Since when does where a thread starts dictate where it goes?If the premise is that the Patriots benefit from the ineptness of the other AFC east teams, that seems easy enough. But they’ve won with a tougher afc east and a weak afc east. They just win. They won on the road in KC and won in the super bowl. The BHC dictates where all threads go. It's actually in the new forum's rules.
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Post by totallybolted on May 31, 2019 9:06:09 GMT -7
Larger sample size beginning with the Brady era. Note: The quoted comes from another source and I haven't checked it: "In this decade the Patriots are 47-13 against the AFC East and 76-24 against the rest of the NFL. That's very very close to the same winning %. The Patriots since 2001 have averaged about 12.3 wins per season. Their win % vs teams in the AFC East is pretty much identical to their win % against teams outside of the AFC East." Understood. But this thread specifically started with an article about the fact that the Patriots are scheduled to have the easiest slate of games for the third consecutive season. First place matchups are supposed to ensure that a defending divisional champion is supposed to face a more difficult schedule except for an occasional anomaly. Three seasons in a row isn’t an anomaly; it is a trend, and that trend is due to the suckage factor of the AFC East. Of course this didn’t matter as much when the talent level was higher and Brady was younger, but it has played a big factor the past two seasons. I hope it doesn’t in 2019, but everything points to a week off in January to help prepare for a home divisional game due to how weak the AFC East has been and will probably continue to be. Preseason strength of schedule is usually bogus. Teams change the actual strength is determined at the end of the season. So we'll see where this year actually ends up. As much as I hate the Pats and would love to support any cupcake reason they succeed, I can't fully point to those that is why they win. They simply find a way to get it done.
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Post by frozendisc on May 31, 2019 10:09:17 GMT -7
Since when does where a thread starts dictate where it goes?If the premise is that the Patriots benefit from the ineptness of the other AFC east teams, that seems easy enough. But they’ve won with a tougher afc east and a weak afc east. They just win. They won on the road in KC and won in the super bowl. The BHC dictates where all threads go. It's actually in the new forum's rules. Your BagHeadCult is moving to a new forum you say......one where Woodmod is free I presume.
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Post by frozendisc on May 31, 2019 10:11:36 GMT -7
Understood. But this thread specifically started with an article about the fact that the Patriots are scheduled to have the easiest slate of games for the third consecutive season. First place matchups are supposed to ensure that a defending divisional champion is supposed to face a more difficult schedule except for an occasional anomaly. Three seasons in a row isn’t an anomaly; it is a trend, and that trend is due to the suckage factor of the AFC East. Of course this didn’t matter as much when the talent level was higher and Brady was younger, but it has played a big factor the past two seasons. I hope it doesn’t in 2019, but everything points to a week off in January to help prepare for a home divisional game due to how weak the AFC East has been and will probably continue to be. Preseason strength of schedule is usually bogus. Teams change the actual strength is determined at the end of the season. So we'll see where this year actually ends up. As much as I hate the Pats and would love to support any cupcake reason they succeed, I can't fully point to those that is why they win. They simply find a way to get it done. This is completely true.....think how this off season has changed the Bolts. Give it 8 games in before really making too many statements on how good or bad a team really is.
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Post by frozendisc on May 31, 2019 10:12:44 GMT -7
Since when does where a thread starts dictate where it goes? If the premise is that the Patriots benefit from the ineptness of the other AFC east teams, that seems easy enough. But they’ve won with a tougher afc east and a weak afc east. They just win. They won on the road in KC and won in the super bowl. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm..........hmmmmmmmmmmm.........Namath........Marino........... I've got nothing here................ The first thing you have posted with any accuracy or validity to it......
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Post by chargerfreak on May 31, 2019 11:15:44 GMT -7
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm..........hmmmmmmmmmmm.........Namath........Marino........... I've got nothing here................ The first thing you have posted with any accuracy or validity to it...... You left out Truth, Justice, and the American Way.
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Post by frozendisc on May 31, 2019 20:31:17 GMT -7
The first thing you have posted with any accuracy or validity to it...... You left out Truth, Justice, and the American Way. Truth, Justice, and the Canadian Way........
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Post by joemcrugby on May 31, 2019 20:38:53 GMT -7
Understood. But this thread specifically started with an article about the fact that the Patriots are scheduled to have the easiest slate of games for the third consecutive season. First place matchups are supposed to ensure that a defending divisional champion is supposed to face a more difficult schedule except for an occasional anomaly. Three seasons in a row isn’t an anomaly; it is a trend, and that trend is due to the suckage factor of the AFC East. Of course this didn’t matter as much when the talent level was higher and Brady was younger, but it has played a big factor the past two seasons. I hope it doesn’t in 2019, but everything points to a week off in January to help prepare for a home divisional game due to how weak the AFC East has been and will probably continue to be. Preseason strength of schedule is usually bogus. Teams change the actual strength is determined at the end of the season. So we'll see where this year actually ends up. As much as I hate the Pats and would love to support any cupcake reason they succeed, I can't fully point to those that is why they win. They simply find a way to get it done. Hasn’t turned out to be bogus for the Patsies the past two years because the AFC East has sucked during the season after they had the easiest preseason estimated schedule. I don’t see anything changing in 2019 with two franchises going through a total rebuild after axing their head coaches five months ago.
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