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Post by totallybolted on Jun 8, 2019 8:56:28 GMT -7
Without reading the article, which I will at some point, I would answer the OP's question this way. The Bolts will go as far as the play of their OL goes. If that play, statistically speaking, is top 1/3 each week, they are certainly in the mix with just a few teams from the AFC. Middle third, they are dangerous, but do not get there. Bottom third, they might not get into the PO's..... Agree. The D was #5 or 9 last year and did its job all year. (PO not so much). It was the O that struggled to capitalize on the opportunities the D provided. O ranked in the teens I think or higher. To me, if the D rank stays the same and O rank goes up..the Bolts will go deep.
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Post by eaterfan on Jun 8, 2019 17:05:36 GMT -7
I didn't read the article yet, but I don't think so.
I think the OL will be a big problem and the coaching staff can't keep up with the elite coaches in the NFL. I think they do a good job with player development and building a culture of winning, but I don't think they match up well when it comes to Xs and Os, clock management, and strategy.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 8, 2019 19:08:37 GMT -7
Without reading the article, which I will at some point, I would answer the OP's question this way. The Bolts will go as far as the play of their OL goes. If that play, statistically speaking, is top 1/3 each week, they are certainly in the mix with just a few teams from the AFC. Middle third, they are dangerous, but do not get there. Bottom third, they might not get into the PO's..... Agree. The D was #5 or 9 last year and did its job all year. (PO not so much). It was the O that struggled to capitalize on the opportunities the D provided. O ranked in the teens I think or higher. To me, if the D rank stays the same and O rank goes up..the Bolts will go deep. I really believe this defence is going to be providing even more chances for the offence this season, be it through turnovers or 3 and outs. The problem will be the offence, and their ability to score. It would be a tough game to lose 7-3, and have the Bolt offence involved in all the scoring.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 8, 2019 19:18:54 GMT -7
I didn't read the article yet, but I don't think so. I think the OL will be a big problem and the coaching staff can't keep up with the elite coaches in the NFL. I think they do a good job with player development and building a culture of winning, but I don't think they match up well when it comes to Xs and Os, clock management, and strategy. Big problem you say.......only if there are injuries that force the depth to play too much. Otherwise, the starting OL is a problem....maybe. They need to fix ROT certainly, or at least get improved play out of Tevi, which I do not see happening. Everyone thinks Lamp is going to be the answer at OG, so that problem is solved, but again I do not see it. I think your views on the coaching staff is a tad bit unfair. I would agree they are not too creative, and that might be the big issue for both sides of the ball. Clearly the D has far more talent, and the O is held back by the poor OL group, so expect Gus to look much better than Wiz. In the end, win them all 3-0.....if only they can keep Rivers away from those pesky pick six throws.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 8, 2019 19:33:21 GMT -7
Agree. The D was #5 or 9 last year and did its job all year. (PO not so much). It was the O that struggled to capitalize on the opportunities the D provided. O ranked in the teens I think or higher. To me, if the D rank stays the same and O rank goes up..the Bolts will go deep. I really believe this defence is going to be providing even more chances for the offence this season, be it through turnovers or 3 and outs. The problem will be the offence, and their ability to score. It would be a tough game to lose 7-3, and have the Bolt offence involved in all the scoring. Creating turnovers has become the verbal mantra for the defense during this offseason. They have a very good opportunity of achieving a large increase on that end as well as 3 & outs, both of which will result in more short fields and more opportunities. Very much looking forward to seeing how it turns out!
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 9, 2019 2:48:54 GMT -7
Without reading the article, which I will at some point, I would answer the OP's question this way. The Bolts will go as far as the play of their OL goes. If that play, statistically speaking, is top 1/3 each week, they are certainly in the mix with just a few teams from the AFC. Middle third, they are dangerous, but do not get there. Bottom third, they might not get into the PO's..... Agree. The D was #5 or 9 last year and did its job all year. (PO not so much). It was the O that struggled to capitalize on the opportunities the D provided. O ranked in the teens I think or higher. To me, if the D rank stays the same and O rank goes up..the Bolts will go deep. AT Baltimore 
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 9, 2019 3:07:00 GMT -7
Agree. The D was #5 or 9 last year and did its job all year. (PO not so much). It was the O that struggled to capitalize on the opportunities the D provided. O ranked in the teens I think or higher. To me, if the D rank stays the same and O rank goes up..the Bolts will go deep. I really believe this defence is going to be providing even more chances for the offence this season, be it through turnovers or 3 and outs. The problem will be the offence, and their ability to score. It would be a tough game to lose 7-3, and have the Bolt offence involved in all the scoring. They averaged almost 27 points a game last season. 6th in the league. WOW. But I'M a Freak........................
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 9, 2019 3:13:55 GMT -7
I didn't read the article yet, but I don't think so. I think the OL will be a big problem and the coaching staff can't keep up with the elite coaches in the NFL. I think they do a good job with player development and building a culture of winning, but I don't think they match up well when it comes to Xs and Os, clock management, and strategy. Big problem you say.......only if there are injuries that force the depth to play too much. Otherwise, the starting OL is a problem....maybe. They need to fix ROT certainly, or at least get improved play out of Tevi, which I do not see happening. Everyone thinks Lamp is going to be the answer at OG, so that problem is solved, but again I do not see it. I think your views on the coaching staff is a tad bit unfair. I would agree they are not too creative, and that might be the big issue for both sides of the ball. Clearly the D has far more talent, and the O is held back by the poor OL group, so expect Gus to look much better than Wiz. In the end, win them all 3-0.....if only they can keep Rivers away from those pesky pick six throws. Yes, our pesky Pro Bowl Divisional Round Playoff QB had better stop all those pick 6's. How many did he throw in 2018 ? 4308 passing yards, 32 TD's, and a QBR of 70.0. Pretty pesky stats there alright.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 9, 2019 5:58:38 GMT -7
Big problem you say.......only if there are injuries that force the depth to play too much. Otherwise, the starting OL is a problem....maybe. They need to fix ROT certainly, or at least get improved play out of Tevi, which I do not see happening. Everyone thinks Lamp is going to be the answer at OG, so that problem is solved, but again I do not see it. I think your views on the coaching staff is a tad bit unfair. I would agree they are not too creative, and that might be the big issue for both sides of the ball. Clearly the D has far more talent, and the O is held back by the poor OL group, so expect Gus to look much better than Wiz. In the end, win them all 3-0.....if only they can keep Rivers away from those pesky pick six throws.Yes, our pesky Pro Bowl Divisional Round Playoff QB had better stop all those pick 6's. How many did he throw in 2018 ? 4308 passing yards, 32 TD's, and a QBR of 70.0. Pretty pesky stats there alright. Love Rivers, but love him a bit less when he throws a pick six, eh.......
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Post by sdc on Jun 9, 2019 9:27:47 GMT -7
Reports about just how awful our offensive line is kills me. This sad sack, cup is half empty, won’t show up at games fanbase is the saddest thing about this team. The Bolts went 12-4 last season, traveled all over the planet, and didn’t have a single game with home field advantage. They did get smoked by the Patriots. Not because of the offensive line. Because they had nothing left. They emptied the clip getting to that point.
Fixing that in 2019 isn’t about blowing up the oline or about becoming a gadget team. It’s about winning the division and getting the first or second seed. It’s also about staying healthy. If both happen, then yes this is a Super Bowl team.
Sorry ball watchers.
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Post by eaterfan on Jun 9, 2019 9:32:19 GMT -7
I didn't read the article yet, but I don't think so. I think the OL will be a big problem and the coaching staff can't keep up with the elite coaches in the NFL. I think they do a good job with player development and building a culture of winning, but I don't think they match up well when it comes to Xs and Os, clock management, and strategy. Big problem you say.......only if there are injuries that force the depth to play too much. Otherwise, the starting OL is a problem....maybe. They need to fix ROT certainly, or at least get improved play out of Tevi, which I do not see happening. Everyone thinks Lamp is going to be the answer at OG, so that problem is solved, but again I do not see it. I think your views on the coaching staff is a tad bit unfair. I would agree they are not too creative, and that might be the big issue for both sides of the ball. Clearly the D has far more talent, and the O is held back by the poor OL group, so expect Gus to look much better than Wiz. In the end, win them all 3-0.....if only they can keep Rivers away from those pesky pick six throws. I'm not sure it's a top half of the league OL when healthy, and the Chargers haven't exactly been known for their health over the last several seasons. I think if the OLine was as good (relative to the league) as any of our other position groups then I'd feel much better about our Superbowl chances. I think this also has a lot to do with the importance of OL overall. I think, behind QB, it's the most important position on the field. Games are won in the trenches, and recent studies have shown offensive line play is more consistent while defensive line play is more dependent on the strength of the opponent's offensive line. To twist Yogi Berra's axiom, good OL beats good DL not vice versa. Luckily, I think we have the perfect QB and WR group to make up for a weak offensive line. What part of what I said would you disagree with? They are not at the level when it comes to Xs and Os of the top staffs? I don't think they are in the top quarter of the league...Rams, Pats, Chiefs, Eagles, Saints, Niners, Colts, Bears. Some of those teams don't have the talent the Chargers do (especially at the QB position) but I think they are better at getting the matchups they want and getting people open. Let's move on to clock management. I think there has been some improvement here, but I wouldn't put it on the level of a lot of teams out there. And strategy, I think the team is still too conservative both in their play mix, and their game management. I also take a bit of issue with your comparison of Wiz to Bradley. I think there is a bit more talent on the defense this season, but last year I think the O was more talented. They lost Henry, but were largely healthy and had Rivers, Allen, Williams x 2, Ekeler. Defense was without Bosa for much of the season and by the end we didn't have a LB unit. Bradley figured out how to use his personnel early, moving Square and Philon outside and getting some pass rush from them. He also figured out how to deploy James in a diverse way from game 1. How well did having 2 RB sets with Gordon and Ekeler work for the Chargers? Pretty damn well. How often were they utilized? Rarely. I'm not saying any of these issues are disastrous, I think this team will make the playoffs and has a good chance of winning the division. But, I think the main competition for the Superbowl are superior to us in those areas (New England, KC, and Indy) and I think because of it we don't make the Superbowl. Isn't that the question the OP posed?
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Post by sdc on Jun 9, 2019 9:33:24 GMT -7
Yes, our pesky Pro Bowl Divisional Round Playoff QB had better stop all those pick 6's. How many did he throw in 2018 ? 4308 passing yards, 32 TD's, and a QBR of 70.0. Pretty pesky stats there alright. Love Rivers, but love him a bit less when he throws a pick six, eh....... Amen!! The only guys that have thrown more are Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning. He should be ashamed to be included on any list with those clowns. Btw, I don’t believe you are capable of loving anyone but yourself.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 9, 2019 9:52:07 GMT -7
Without reading the article, which I will at some point, I would answer the OP's question this way. The Bolts will go as far as the play of their OL goes. If that play, statistically speaking, is top 1/3 each week, they are certainly in the mix with just a few teams from the AFC. Middle third, they are dangerous, but do not get there. Bottom third, they might not get into the PO's.....
Over the course of the 2018 reg season, the Bolts OL were 10th in sacks allowed, 3rd in ypc passing, 7th in ypc rushing. They had two remarkably poor games vs Bal @ LAC & @ NE. Season over. Maintaining last year's avg would be fine if they can put a strong finish on it. If they can stay healthy they should finish in the top third again in actual team production. A strong late season/post season finish will be the key. I can see them building in their 2nd- 3rd years together.
PFF rating? Game science? Who knows? or cares? It's the W's baby!
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 9, 2019 10:02:45 GMT -7
Without reading the article, which I will at some point, I would answer the OP's question this way. The Bolts will go as far as the play of their OL goes. If that play, statistically speaking, is top 1/3 each week, they are certainly in the mix with just a few teams from the AFC. Middle third, they are dangerous, but do not get there. Bottom third, they might not get into the PO's..... Agree. The D was #5 or 9 last year and did its job all year. (PO not so much). It was the O that struggled to capitalize on the opportunities the D provided. O ranked in the teens I think or higher. To me, if the D rank stays the same and O rank goes up..the Bolts will go deep. We were #8 scoring D, #6 scoring O.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 9, 2019 11:37:08 GMT -7
Love Rivers, but love him a bit less when he throws a pick six, eh....... Amen!! The only guys that have thrown more are Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning. He should be ashamed to be included on any list with those clowns. Btw, I don’t believe you are capable of loving anyone but yourself. Rivers is a HOF player......nothing more to say. What is with the hate towards me?
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