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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 10:15:03 GMT -7
DVR. I work for a living. PS (They track DVR viewership too.Shhhhhhhhhhh. Don't tell anyone. Top secret.) Here’s another secret. People rarely watch DVR recordings of sports events. Thats why the NFL has had successful TV contracts to date, because sports are the only thing that people watch live. Ads can be sold during those events. Don’t pretend like you would be coming home from work, and watching last nights Lakers game on a DVR recording, because you wouldn’t... No. In today's world it would be old sports news by then. Back when the Lakers were Showtime, I would have. I stopped following closely. No loyalty at all. Hell, I even know a new superstar that bailed on his team for LA the first chance he got.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 7, 2019 10:29:58 GMT -7
I called for the opposite meaning he was leaving...................................... What you were implying is that if he was seriously considering the Raptors, that he would have signed right away, and the longer he sat on things the lesser their chances were. Here is exactly what you said: losangeleschargers.proboards.com/post/8086He flew out to Toronto on July 3rd for a meeting with them. Teams usually have to go to the player for free agency meetings, so that alone shows how much he was considering returning. The Raptors were in the game up until the very end, until a blockbuster trade appeared out of absolutely nowhere. There was not one person who predicted things would happen the way they did. Without the trade, things probably would have ended up differently, and you even said that you agreed with that yourself. As a reminder you also predicted he was Laker bound, so you were just as wrong as I was, so that’s yet another L. All reports are he was doing the Lakers. The Clippers felt they had to do George to beat the Laker deal with Leonard. Toronto is actually not in those reports. They were 3rd ? Also, Leonard's demand was for "a second star", NOT George by name or old southern calif. ties baloney. "Once the Clippers understood Leonard wanted to play alongside a second star, owner Steve Ballmer gave the green light to trade a war chest of draft picks, in addition to forward Danilo Gallinari and point guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, in order to open the team’s championship window..." www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/la-sp-clippers-kawhi-leonard-paul-george-how-it-happened-20190706-story.html
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Post by moekid on Jul 7, 2019 11:35:18 GMT -7
Apparently, Leonard first tried to recruit Durant but he had his mind set on NY (or Brooklyn to be precise). He then set his sights on Paul George. I think he only kept the Lakers in the hunt to pressure the Clippers to make the deal. This was a triumph for the Clippers FO of West, Frank and Rivers over the Lakers dysfunction.
In any case, LA is basketball heaven now. Clippers may actually be favorites for the title for the for first time.
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Post by jachba on Jul 7, 2019 15:05:32 GMT -7
Apparently, Leonard first tried to recruit Durant but he had his mind set on NY (or Brooklyn to be precise). He then set his sights on Paul George. I think he only kept the Lakers in the hunt to pressure the Clippers to make the deal. This was a triumph for the Clippers FO of West, Frank and Rivers over the Lakers dysfunction. In any case, LA is basketball heaven now. Clippers may actually be favorites for the title for the for first time. It depends on how everything fits together. Talent alone doesn't usually win championships unless one team has an overwhelming edge. What made things work with the Raptors is that everyone's skillsets complemented each other. Combine that with a roster that had plenty of playoff experience, outstanding defence, a head coach not afraid to take risks and a lineup that could beat you in several different ways, with different players picking up the slack and an NBA Championship was the result. Let's see if the Clippers know how to manage Leonard as well as the Raptors did.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 16:12:43 GMT -7
You’re right, it wasn’t in his schedule to get out of “Backwater Toronto” ASAP. He chose to hang around for a few days and enjoy the City. Not sure what LA having two baseball teams has to do with anything, but since you brought it up, do they really ? The Angels are based out of Anahiem, which is not even in the same County as Los Angeles. The LA tag in their name was something put on by the current Owner, which was controversial and even had a lawsuit brought forward by the City of Anahiem, whom the team has their actual lease with. They’ve been in the same stadium since 1966 and the team name has had several different name changes over that time. Only since 2016 have they been known as the “Los Angeles Angels” while playing in that stadium, which was nothing more than a preference of one person (the Owner) despite much opposition. Wow, you can’t even be right about things you bring up, that have no place in this conversation. Another L. You just told me that the Los Angeles Angels cannot be called from Los Angeles. I mean, I know you lost it, but try to hang on. WOW That’s pretty close to the opposite of what I said. An Owner recently started calling his team the Los Angeles Angels, but they really are not a true LA team, and haven’t been since the mid 60’s.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 7, 2019 16:28:08 GMT -7
What you were implying is that if he was seriously considering the Raptors, that he would have signed right away, and the longer he sat on things the lesser their chances were. Here is exactly what you said: losangeleschargers.proboards.com/post/8086He flew out to Toronto on July 3rd for a meeting with them. Teams usually have to go to the player for free agency meetings, so that alone shows how much he was considering returning. The Raptors were in the game up until the very end, until a blockbuster trade appeared out of absolutely nowhere. There was not one person who predicted things would happen the way they did. Without the trade, things probably would have ended up differently, and you even said that you agreed with that yourself. As a reminder you also predicted he was Laker bound, so you were just as wrong as I was, so that’s yet another L. All reports are he was doing the Lakers. The Clippers felt they had to do George to beat the Laker deal with Leonard. Toronto is actually not in those reports. They were 3rd ? Also, Leonard's demand was for "a second star", NOT George by name or old southern calif. ties baloney. "Once the Clippers understood Leonard wanted to play alongside a second star, owner Steve Ballmer gave the green light to trade a war chest of draft picks, in addition to forward Danilo Gallinari and point guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, in order to open the team’s championship window..." www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/la-sp-clippers-kawhi-leonard-paul-george-how-it-happened-20190706-story.html All reports ? What universe are you living in where all reports were anywhere close to consistent ? There were numerous different reports going on, and none of them were worth a damn, because not one of them was right. Whether the Raptors were a 2nd or 3rd choice, we’ll never know, and it doesn’t matter one bit. The only choice that has any meaning is the first choice. This says that the Raptors were also trying to trade for George, after they had their meeting with Kawhi: nba.nbcsports.com/2019/07/06/raptors-were-reportedly-working-on-trade-for-paul-george-that-might-have-kept-kawhi-leonard/Is it true ? I have no idea, and we’ll probably never know. But if it was, could it just be sheer coincidence that two teams trying to sign Kawhi, out of nowhere started trying to trade for the same guy who wasn’t even on the trading block ? The bottom line is both of us were equally wrong with our destination predictions, he went to the other team...
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Post by moekid on Jul 7, 2019 20:18:54 GMT -7
Apparently, Leonard first tried to recruit Durant but he had his mind set on NY (or Brooklyn to be precise). He then set his sights on Paul George. I think he only kept the Lakers in the hunt to pressure the Clippers to make the deal. This was a triumph for the Clippers FO of West, Frank and Rivers over the Lakers dysfunction. In any case, LA is basketball heaven now. Clippers may actually be favorites for the title for the for first time. It depends on how everything fits together. Talent alone doesn't usually win championships unless one team has an overwhelming edge. What made things work with the Raptors is that everyone's skillsets complemented each other. Combine that with a roster that had plenty of playoff experience, outstanding defence, a head coach not afraid to take risks and a lineup that could beat you in several different ways, with different players picking up the slack and an NBA Championship was the result. Let's see if the Clippers know how to manage Leonard as well as the Raptors did. Agree. It's got to fit together.
As good as Kawhi and the Raptors were in the playoffs, they probably don't win without a couple of huge injuries.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 8, 2019 3:02:00 GMT -7
You just told me that the Los Angeles Angels cannot be called from Los Angeles. I mean, I know you lost it, but try to hang on. WOW That’s pretty close to the opposite of what I said. An Owner recently started calling his team the Los Angeles Angels, but they really are not a true LA team, and haven’t been since the mid 60’s. I'm the only one on here that wanted the Carson Chargers.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 8, 2019 3:03:34 GMT -7
How does the money/contract work on players like Durant. They knew up front he was out for next year. They way these guys score money, I would imagine he's still getting some. Details ?
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 8, 2019 3:53:28 GMT -7
How does the money/contract work on players like Durant. They knew up front he was out for next year. They way these guys score money, I would imagine he's still getting some. Details ? He’s still getting paid the full amount, as if he were playing. klay Thompson will be as well.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 8, 2019 8:27:07 GMT -7
Apparently, Leonard first tried to recruit Durant but he had his mind set on NY (or Brooklyn to be precise). He then set his sights on Paul George. I think he only kept the Lakers in the hunt to pressure the Clippers to make the deal. This was a triumph for the Clippers FO of West, Frank and Rivers over the Lakers dysfunction. In any case, LA is basketball heaven now. Clippers may actually be favorites for the title for the for first time. The Clippers likely will be the favorites this coming year. I don’t think they’ll dominate the regular season, but should definitely be good enough to get a high seed, and take care of business in the playoffs (assuming key guys are healthy). They have a great roster, but it’s not perfect, the weakness I see in their lineup is size. Kawhi & PG13 both have regularly played the 3 spot, so one of them will get pushed to the 4 spot. Both are capable of the change, but one of them will be playing a position other than that which they are best at. I have no idea what their plan is for Center, but it’ll either have to be someone already on the roster, or someone they sign for league minimum salary (they don’t have much to trade away anymore). Perhaps they bump Harrell from Power Forward to Center, which would work against some teams but not so well against others. The game of course has changed a lot from the days of Shaq, Hakeem, Zo, etc. but a team like Philly could take advantage of some size mismatches on them. Teams that I could see potentially causing problems for them this coming season: * Lakers * Nuggets * Jazz * 76ers * Bucks * Blazers Like always a lot will depend on health, and how the playoff seeding plays out. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 8, 2019 8:33:37 GMT -7
How does the money/contract work on players like Durant. They knew up front he was out for next year. They way these guys score money, I would imagine he's still getting some. Details ? He’s still getting paid the full amount, as if he were playing. klay Thompson will be as well. Holy Crap. Think of that for a minute. You are hanging with the team, facility, events. Not doing a thing for millions.
Great gig !
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 8, 2019 8:35:20 GMT -7
Apparently, Leonard first tried to recruit Durant but he had his mind set on NY (or Brooklyn to be precise). He then set his sights on Paul George. I think he only kept the Lakers in the hunt to pressure the Clippers to make the deal. This was a triumph for the Clippers FO of West, Frank and Rivers over the Lakers dysfunction. In any case, LA is basketball heaven now. Clippers may actually be favorites for the title for the for first time. The Clippers likely will be the favorites this coming year. I don’t think they’ll dominate the regular season, but should definitely be good enough to get a high seed, and take care of business in the playoffs (assuming key guys are healthy). They have a great roster, but it’s not perfect, the weakness I see in their lineup is size. Kawhi & PG13 both have regularly played the 3 spot, so one of them will get pushed to the 4 spot. Both are capable of the change, but one of them will be playing a position other than that which they are best at. I have no idea what their plan is for Center, but it’ll either have to be someone already on the roster, or someone they sign for league minimum salary (they don’t have much to trade away anymore). Perhaps they bump Harrell from Power Forward to Center, which would work against some teams but not so well against others. The game of course has changed a lot from the days of Shaq, Hakeem, Zo, etc. but a team like Philly could take advantage of some size mismatches on them. Teams that I could see potentially causing problems for them this coming season: * Lakers * Nuggets * Jazz * 76ers * Bucks * Blazers Like always a lot will depend on health, and how the playoff seeding plays out. The Fight for LA has switched to the NBA !!!
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Post by moekid on Jul 8, 2019 18:10:41 GMT -7
Apparently, Leonard first tried to recruit Durant but he had his mind set on NY (or Brooklyn to be precise). He then set his sights on Paul George. I think he only kept the Lakers in the hunt to pressure the Clippers to make the deal. This was a triumph for the Clippers FO of West, Frank and Rivers over the Lakers dysfunction. In any case, LA is basketball heaven now. Clippers may actually be favorites for the title for the for first time. It depends on how everything fits together. Talent alone doesn't usually win championships unless one team has an overwhelming edge. What made things work with the Raptors is that everyone's skillsets complemented each other. Combine that with a roster that had plenty of playoff experience, outstanding defence, a head coach not afraid to take risks and a lineup that could beat you in several different ways, with different players picking up the slack and an NBA Championship was the result. Let's see if the Clippers know how to manage Leonard as well as the Raptors did. I hope Raptors fan realize that Kawhi was a top 2-3 player before he ever slipped on a Raptors jersey. He played in Toronto for 1 season. It's not like the Raptors unlocked the secret potential of Kawhi Leonard.
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Post by ltocbolts on Jul 8, 2019 22:10:59 GMT -7
If only there had been a Clipper's fan on here.
Who opined that the Clippers' "showing out" well this past season, without a superstar, would help them in the Free Agent sweepstakes.
Nah, that could never happen.
Especially with Kawhi -- that dude's a Raptor for life!
Right, Chops?
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