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Post by moekid on Aug 24, 2019 21:48:28 GMT -7
Trade Tyrod to the Colts
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 24, 2019 22:16:12 GMT -7
Joe, you were at the NO practices. From what I heard the Bolts looked good vs NO at those practices. Was that just the pass O, or did the run game look good too? They looked pretty good in both the run and passing game against a very good Saints defensive front with PR playing QB and Pouncey at center in the Thursday practice. Didn't see the Friday Saints or the Rams joint practices, but the reports were the same ... and the Rams have one of the best defensive fronts in the NFL with the best overall player. I am sure that AL will be chewing plenty of butt regarding the short yardage packages tonight and last week, but I guarantee you that he doesn't give a rat's patootie about the preseason games. AL has gone all in on the Sean McVay view of the preseason while Carroll is going old school playing his first team O and D for most of the first half. By coincidence, I just watched the America's Game 1982 Washington Redskins episode, and the players mentioned that they went 0-4 in the preseason where Joe Gibbs only called a few plays over and over and over again ... and that was when they were coming off an 0-5 start to the 1981 season at the start of Gibbs' tenure. He didn't give a crap about the preseason record, he wanted to have them not overlook anything. For aficionados of old school football with a diesel powering the playoff run, this is highly recommended viewing (only a 6 minute clip, the full segment is available on NFL Game Pass): www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-americas-game/0ap3000000533215/America-s-Game-Theismann-leads-misfit-1982-Redskins-to-Super-Bowl-XVII
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 25, 2019 3:55:04 GMT -7
I’d put Cardale at #2 over Tyrod.
Better sign Gordon. Hope Okung gets back QUICK. Perryman didn’t look good. Brown still misses too many tackles. Artavis Scott looked ok. 8-8 team Post of the Week. Freak Approved.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 25, 2019 3:57:42 GMT -7
The concern for me would be these guys are the guys that have essentially played all of the preseason games, and they look lost..... So lt us say you are correct, and the 'starters' go in to play G1, and they do great, what happens when they start to get injured? The depth is not looking good, at all, across the board. The oline hasn't played a single preseason snap with Pouncey in the lineup. Massive difference with the oline as opposed to having Feeney finding his way as a backup center after being a life-long guard. Exhibit A: The fumbled snap on 4th and 1 with Taylor in the lineup, leading to a Hawks TD. You ain't whistlin' Dixie there !
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 25, 2019 4:01:45 GMT -7
No PR, no Allen, no Pouncey, no Ingram, no Bosa, no Davis, no Mebane ... What is that, five Pro Bowlers not playing tonight? My advice is to relax. The Colts and Texans (two of their first three opponents) have issues of their own as do the Dolphins and Lions who constitute the opening quarter of the Chargers season. You just couldn't bring yourself to name Gordon for your 6th Pro Bowler, now could you ? Bad Joe. Sit Joe.
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Post by chargerfreak on Aug 25, 2019 4:04:58 GMT -7
Yeah, you're right. What's the difference between a Pro Bowl center (the QB of the oline) and a guy who has never played the position before. :rolleyes: Time to fold up the tent and call it a year. That is the only one not playing.......you really think Pouncy makes any difference if the OG's and OT's can't do squat.... Even when/if Okung gets back, it isn't solved......the OL is sketch as hell. Pouncey is the only one not playing, then you mention Okung being out......................................... Freak Approved.
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Post by boltgang74 on Aug 25, 2019 7:58:43 GMT -7
This o line is gonna be the death of TT...and possibly someone else.
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Post by joemcrugby on Aug 25, 2019 9:48:28 GMT -7
No PR, no Allen, no Pouncey, no Ingram, no Bosa, no Davis, no Mebane ... What is that, five Pro Bowlers not playing tonight? My advice is to relax. The Colts and Texans (two of their first three opponents) have issues of their own as do the Dolphins and Lions who constitute the opening quarter of the Chargers season. You just couldn't bring yourself to name Gordon for your 6th Pro Bowler, now could you ? Bad Joe. Sit Joe. Didn’t name James (who is out until November) either for the reason that he ain’t gonna be there Week 1. I’ll name Gordon after he reports for duty.
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 25, 2019 9:49:48 GMT -7
That is the only one not playing.......you really think Pouncy makes any difference if the OG's and OT's can't do squat.... Even when/if Okung gets back, it isn't solved......the OL is sketch as hell. Pouncey is the only one not playing, then you mention Okung being out......................................... Freak Approved. Disingenuous to say the least.......as Pouncy could be playing but is being held out. So the eventual starters are actually playing, minus Pouncy, and they do not look very good. Eventually they will add both Pouncy and Okung (hopefully), but do you really think that fixes the woes of this group.
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Post by sdc on Aug 25, 2019 11:37:59 GMT -7
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Post by sdc on Aug 25, 2019 11:39:44 GMT -7
Anthony Lynn. We don’t care about preseason. Starters sit.
Chicken Littles - We suck!!! The Cardinals beat us.
Anthony Lynn. We don’t care about preseason. Starters sit.
Chicken Littles - We still suck! The Saints beat us.
Anthony Lynn. We don’t care about preseason. Starters sit.
Chicken Littles - Russell Wilson and the Seattle starters sure are making our back ups and free agents look bad.
The oline is clearly awful. Doesn’t matter that our Pro Bowl center and left tackle haven’t taken a snap. Our stating left guard is playing center to gain experience. The bottom line is we suck. The defensive line has been hot garbage. That doesn’t matter because the ball watchers guild has proclaimed that group solid. Clearly, not having our Pro Bowl ends not out there makes all the difference in the world.
Not a single ball watcher realizes you cannot excuse one part of the team for poor results because starters are not playing but not excuse another part of the team under the exact same circumstances. I guess that they also don’t comprehend what Philip does on every snap. Reading the defense, calling out blitzes, assisting in blocking assignments, and moving TE’s and RB’s for protection.
I love seeing new an apocalyptic predictions after every meaningless preseason game. Their back up QB (who used to be our back up QB, and btw was garbage when we had him) is wayyyyy better than our back up QB. Cardale Jones has looked great.....that means we’re screwed cause I really don’t like him. Funny about the crickets surround the second coming of Drew Brees, Easton Stick.
What’s that old adage, sometimes it better to remain silent and have people think you are a fool rather that open you mouth and remove any doubt.
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Post by sonorajim on Aug 25, 2019 12:16:18 GMT -7
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Post by frozendisc on Aug 25, 2019 13:43:10 GMT -7
Anthony Lynn. We don’t care about preseason. Starters sit. Chicken Littles - We suck!!! The Cardinals beat us. Anthony Lynn. We don’t care about preseason. Starters sit. Chicken Littles - We still suck! The Saints beat us. Anthony Lynn. We don’t care about preseason. Starters sit. Chicken Littles - Russell Wilson and the Seattle starters sure are making our back ups and free agents look bad. The oline is clearly awful. Doesn’t matter that our Pro Bowl center and left tackle haven’t taken a snap. Our stating left guard is playing center to gain experience. The bottom line is we suck. The defensive line has been hot garbage. That doesn’t matter because the ball watchers guild has proclaimed that group solid. Clearly, not having our Pro Bowl ends not out there makes all the difference in the world. Not a single ball watcher realizes you cannot excuse one part of the team for poor results because starters are not playing but not excuse another part of the team under the exact same circumstances. I guess that they also don’t comprehend what Philip does on every snap. Reading the defense, calling out blitzes, assisting in blocking assignments, and moving TE’s and RB’s for protection. I love seeing new an apocalyptic predictions after every meaningless preseason game. Their back up QB (who used to be our back up QB, and btw was garbage when we had him) is wayyyyy better than our back up QB. Cardale Jones has looked great.....that means we’re screwed cause I really don’t like him. Funny about the crickets surround the second coming of Drew Brees, Easton Stick. What’s that old adage, sometimes it better to remain silent and have people think you are a fool rather that open you mouth and remove any doubt. Just to be really clear, please put in writing exactly how you feel this OL will perform this season. Are you a believer, a skeptic, chicken little......just what?
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Post by sdc on Aug 25, 2019 14:03:14 GMT -7
Anthony Lynn. We don’t care about preseason. Starters sit. Chicken Littles - We suck!!! The Cardinals beat us. Anthony Lynn. We don’t care about preseason. Starters sit. Chicken Littles - We still suck! The Saints beat us. Anthony Lynn. We don’t care about preseason. Starters sit. Chicken Littles - Russell Wilson and the Seattle starters sure are making our back ups and free agents look bad. The oline is clearly awful. Doesn’t matter that our Pro Bowl center and left tackle haven’t taken a snap. Our stating left guard is playing center to gain experience. The bottom line is we suck. The defensive line has been hot garbage. That doesn’t matter because the ball watchers guild has proclaimed that group solid. Clearly, not having our Pro Bowl ends not out there makes all the difference in the world. Not a single ball watcher realizes you cannot excuse one part of the team for poor results because starters are not playing but not excuse another part of the team under the exact same circumstances. I guess that they also don’t comprehend what Philip does on every snap. Reading the defense, calling out blitzes, assisting in blocking assignments, and moving TE’s and RB’s for protection. I love seeing new an apocalyptic predictions after every meaningless preseason game. Their back up QB (who used to be our back up QB, and btw was garbage when we had him) is wayyyyy better than our back up QB. Cardale Jones has looked great.....that means we’re screwed cause I really don’t like him. Funny about the crickets surround the second coming of Drew Brees, Easton Stick. What’s that old adage, sometimes it better to remain silent and have people think you are a fool rather that open you mouth and remove any doubt. Just to be really clear, please put in writing exactly how you feel this OL will perform this season. Are you a believer, a skeptic, chicken little......just what? I don't worship at the altar of PFF like many ball watchers do. I depend on what my eyes show me. We will be a top 10 maybe top 5 offense in the league both in points scored and yardage gained. We have one of the best WR tandems in the NFL, a top tier TE who missed essentially all of 2018 and changes the way defenses play us, a top blocking TE, and depth at RB. The offensive line will be middle of the road just like they were last season.
Unlike you and your fellow "the sky is falling" Chicken Littles", I look at the team as a whole. I'm sure that you were one of the guys lamenting special teams last preseason and the Chargers unwillingness to address it. Wow, that got fixed but instead of being a realist, you and your ilk just pivot onto a new lament.
I am a believer in this team. I believe that defense has the ability to be elite at all three levels even with Derwin on the shelf for the first half of the season. I see AL and his two coordinators as a top 5 coaching staff in the NFL. I see our HOF QB playing some of his best football and now becoming a darling of the national media. I've keyed on Lamp all preseason and predict he will start for this team. I feel that when Pouncey and Rivers get added to the mix, hopefully Okung too that this offense will hum.
After this post I will ignore your nonsense from now on. That will be best for both of us. You showed just how classy you are by your "The Texans are lucky that the only lost their RB instead of having their QB quit on them" post last night.
I am actually a fan of this team and have been my entire life. I would rather root for them to succeed than to wish for them to fail. I have come across fans like you on many different Chargers boards. You are all the same. You would rather be right in you proclamations of failure than actually see the team succeed. It would make me sad if I really cared.
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Post by sonorajim on Aug 25, 2019 15:20:56 GMT -7
Just to be really clear, please put in writing exactly how you feel this OL will perform this season. Are you a believer, a skeptic, chicken little......just what? I don't worship at the altar of PFF like many ball watchers do. I depend on what my eyes show me. We will be a top 5 maybe top 5 offense in the league both in points scored and yardage gained. We have one of the best WR tandems in the NFL, a top tier TE who missed essentially all of 2018 and changes the way defenses play us, a top blocking TE, and depth at RB. The offensive line will be middle of the road just like they were last season.
Unlike you and your fellow "the sky is falling" Chicken Littles", I look at the team as a whole. I'm sure that you were one of the guys lamenting special teams last preseason and the Chargers unwillingness to address it. Wow, that got fixed but instead of being a realist, you and your ilk just pivot onto a new lament.
I am a believer in this team. I believe that defense has the ability to be elite at all three levels even with Derwin on the shelf for the first half of the season. I see AL and his two coordinators as a top 5 coaching staff in the NFL. I see our HOF QB playing some of his best football and now becoming a darling of the national media. I've keyed on Lamp all preseason and predict he will start for this team. I feel that when Pouncey and Rivers get added to the mix, hopefully Okung too that this offense will hum.
After this post I will ignore your nonsense from now on. That will be best for both of us. You showed just how classy you are by your "The Texans are lucky that the only lost their RB instead of having their QB quit on them" post last night.
I am actually a fan of this team and have been my entire life. I would rather root for them to succeed than to wish for them to fail. I have come across fans like you on many different Chargers boards. You are all the same. You would rather be right in you proclamations of failure than actually see the team succeed. I would make me sad if I really cared.
You had me with "worship at the altar of PFF". There seems to be a wide discrepancy between 13-5 and one of the worst OLs in the NFL. Particularly if one ascribes to OL makes or breaks an offense. If so, how were we so successful with such a lousy OL? Could it be that QB, TEs, RB/FB, WRs, gameplanning, coaching, playcalls & execution thereof can make a difference? If it made a difference last year, why not this one?
Okung didn't get a lot of appreciation when he played but now his absence makes us maybe an 8-8 team. Pure-A horse manure.
We are a playoff team until the record says otherwise.
Time to whip some Luckless Colt backsides.
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