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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 16, 2019 9:23:17 GMT -7
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Post by moekid on Sept 16, 2019 9:24:48 GMT -7
And Luck retires. 3 HOF’ers lost.
Big Ben era is over.
Brees may come back but probably too late.
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Post by chargerfreak on Sept 16, 2019 10:01:38 GMT -7
And Luck retires. 3 HOF’ers lost. Big Ben era is over. Brees may come back but probably too late. Luck hasn't played long enough for the Hall
People come back better from tommy John surgery
In NO's division, week 15 might not be too late.
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Post by moekid on Sept 16, 2019 10:44:56 GMT -7
And Luck retires. 3 HOF’ers lost. Big Ben era is over. Brees may come back but probably too late. Luck hasn't played long enough for the Hall
People come back better from tommy John surgery
In NO's division, week 15 might not be too late.
Big Ben was ready to hang it up a few times already. People may come back but those are people that work at it. Big ben ain't coming back from the donut shop.
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Post by lazylightning on Sept 16, 2019 10:51:47 GMT -7
Luck hasn't played long enough for the Hall
People come back better from tommy John surgery
In NO's division, week 15 might not be too late.
Big Ben was ready to hang it up a few times already. People may come back but those are people that work at it. Big ben ain't coming back from the donut shop. The money is right; he will be back. Ben is a taker, not a giver.
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 16, 2019 13:01:05 GMT -7
Big Ben was ready to hang it up a few times already. People may come back but those are people that work at it. Big ben ain't coming back from the donut shop. The money is right; he will be back. Ben is a taker, not a giver. Is Ben in a contract year? Somehow I do not see money being the driver, adulation perhaps, but money, nope.
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Post by ChargingBolts on Sept 16, 2019 13:41:55 GMT -7
This is good for Rivers stats to keep climbing up the ladder, especially if NYG benches Eli. Rivers can easily get to #5 all time passing yards by the end of next year if healthy and productive passing up Marino but will be far behind Favre, Peyton, Brady and Brees. I hope for Rivers to play several more years at a high level ie. Brees and Brady and break all records and get 1 or more rings.
Rivers sat his first 2 years, Ben and Eli didn't, this would be a little justice to pass them up, he's already passed them up in TD's.
It's amazing the stats Favre has when everyone seems to think Rodgers is one of the best ever? Rodgers slightly younger than Rivers and way down on the list to where I don't think there's any way he catches Favre, so who was the better Packer? Each have a ring.
Yards:
1 Brees 74,845 2001-2019 2TM
2 Peyton Manning 71,940 1998-2015 2TM
3 Brett Favre+ 71,838 1991-2010 4TM
4 Tom Brady 71,119 2000-2019 nwe
5 Dan Marino+ 61,361 1983-1999 mia
6 Ben Roethlisberger 56,545 2004-2019 pit
7 Eli Manning 56,537 2004-2019 nyg
8 Philip Rivers 55,282 2004-2019 sdg
9 John Elway+ 51,475 1983-1998 den
10 Warren Moon+ 49,325 1984-2000 4TM
11 Matt Ryan 47,344 2008-2019 atl
12 Fran Tarkenton+ 47,003 1961-1978 2TM
13 Carson Palmer 46,247 2004-2017 3TM
14 Vinny Testaverde 46,233 1987-2007 7TM
15 Drew Bledsoe 44,611 1993-2006 3TM
16 Aaron Rodgers 43,356 2005-2019 gnb
TDS:
1 Peyton Manning 539 1998-2015 2TM
2 Tom Brady 522 2000-2019 nwe
2 Drew Brees 522 2001-2019 2TM
4 Brett Favre+ 508 1991-2010 4TM
5 Dan Marino+ 420 1983-1999 mia
6 Philip Rivers 377 2004-2019 sdg
7 Ben Roethlisberger 363 2004-2019 pit
8 Eli Manning 362 2004-2019 nyg
9 Fran Tarkenton+ 342 1961-1978 2TM
10 Aaron Rodgers 341 2005-2019 gnb
11 John Elway+ 300 1983-1998 den
11 Matt Ryan 300 2008-2019 atl
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 16, 2019 13:44:01 GMT -7
One note regarding Eli:
If he starts and the Giants lose this week, he will have a sub-.500 career record as a starter.
As for Ben: what shocked me was how lumbering he looked in the opener. Although he was never what you would consider an elegant runner, he was always uber-strong and effective. He looked to me like he was on his last legs.
Although it’s very feasible that he could come back from the Tommy John surgery at age 38, it’s going to take a huge amount of work and therapy time to do it. Does Ben still have that in the tank? I’m not so sure.
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Post by chopper31 on Sept 16, 2019 15:15:21 GMT -7
Looks like the one and only thing I care about here, is that either Brees or Tom Brady throw at least 18 more TD passes this year. If it can’t be Brees, I guess I gotta rely on Brady.
If one of them wanna throw 8 TD’s in a single game, that would be a nice added bonus...
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Post by ChargingBolts on Sept 16, 2019 15:27:31 GMT -7
Looks like the one and only thing I care about here, is that either Brees or Tom Brady throw at least 18 more TD passes this year. If it can’t be Brees, I guess I gotta rely on Brady. If one of them wanna throw 8 TD’s in a single game, that would be a nice added bonus... I'm sorry but I have way more disdain for Brady than I do Peyton. Brady would not have 6 rings if it weren't for Bill Bellicheat. Brees can have it and Brady can join Big Ben this year is my hope.
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Post by lazylightning on Sept 16, 2019 16:06:26 GMT -7
The money is right; he will be back. Ben is a taker, not a giver. Is Ben in a contract year? Somehow I do not see money being the driver, adulation perhaps, but money, nope. Perhaps it is my perspective and not Ben's but why would anyone leave $$$$$$$ on the table?
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Post by lightsout42 on Sept 16, 2019 18:59:54 GMT -7
Is Ben in a contract year? Somehow I do not see money being the driver, adulation perhaps, but money, nope. Perhaps it is my perspective and not Ben's but why would anyone leave $$$$$$$ on the table? Ask Melvin Gordon? 🤣 |
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Post by frozendisc on Sept 16, 2019 19:37:42 GMT -7
Is Ben in a contract year? Somehow I do not see money being the driver, adulation perhaps, but money, nope. Perhaps it is my perspective and not Ben's but why would anyone leave $$$$$$$ on the table? Once a certain amount has been banked, there is a large percentage of players that prioritize other aspects over money. At least I can comfortably say that about NHL, and just suspect it about all other professional athletes.
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Post by cthommes on Sept 16, 2019 21:23:51 GMT -7
Perhaps it is my perspective and not Ben's but why would anyone leave $$$$$$$ on the table? Once a certain amount has been banked, there is a large percentage of players that prioritize other aspects over money. At least I can comfortably say that about NHL, and just suspect it about all other professional athletes. You apparently haven't kept up with the 10 year old news that 78% of NFL players are bankrupt or under financial stress within 2 years after retirement... NBA's not quite so bad. 60% are bankrupt in 5 years. Haven't seen anything comparable reported about the NHL. While your suspicion seems perfectly rational to me, the presented statistics do not support it. |
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Post by ChargingBolts on Sept 17, 2019 0:57:12 GMT -7
Rapersburger has made a statement that he plans on honoring his 3 year contract and plans on coming back next year to fulfill it.
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