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Post by afboltfan on Feb 28, 2020 7:46:45 GMT -7
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Post by sdc on Feb 28, 2020 7:48:12 GMT -7
Doubling down on this nonsense doesn't make it any better. Even your retort is completely dependent on the opinions of the pundits. The Bengals will select Burrows if they believe he is the best player in this draft. His position will certainly help but other factors will come into play. The two biggest are Joe's tiny little baby hands and Tua's health. There are multiple chances in hell that the Bengals don't select Burrow. None of them will have anything to do with who the media hypes or doesn't.
Someone might be more enamored with Burrows than they are and are willing to give up the farm to trade up for him. Tua could still very well be the first QB taken. To predict what will happen at the end of April before the combine is over in February is absurd.
....Cincinnati might trade down with the Patriots, or any other club.... The Patriots are picking 23rd in the first round. There is no plausible scenario of them trading into the top pick aside from one. Are you stating that there is a possibility, even the slightest, that the Patriots would be willing to not only trade a bunch of first round picks but also Bill Belichick to get Joe Burrows? Because he’s the only thing they’ve got that has any real value at this point.
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Post by sdc on Feb 28, 2020 7:52:50 GMT -7
Actually, nothing new on either one. If you could combine Jake’s leadership, intellect, and intangibles with Justin’s size and physical tools, you would have the perfect QB.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 28, 2020 7:58:04 GMT -7
Actually, nothing new on either one. If you could combine Jake’s leadership, intellect, and intangibles with Justin’s size and physical tools, you would have the perfect QB. Fromm's average measurables match his average play. He's scouted and ranked where he is for a reason.
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Post by sdc on Feb 28, 2020 8:02:56 GMT -7
Actually, nothing new on either one. If you could combine Jake’s leadership, intellect, and intangibles with Justin’s size and physical tools, you would have the perfect QB. Fromm's average measurables match his average play. He's scouted and ranked where he is for a reason. Average measurables and average play equates into a low first round, high second round grade? Interesting. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson were similarly evaluated. Not to say Jake is either one but scouts love those measurables.
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 28, 2020 8:09:35 GMT -7
I think the comparisons are a joke and show obvious bias... Herbert is a "Winner" because he can tell jokes on the sidelines? C'mon... Its a good discussion starter type of article, but I don't think this writer has much credibility or scouting knowledge. I thought his mock draft was bad too... I think this was the guy that mocked us taking Jordan Love at #6.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 28, 2020 8:17:54 GMT -7
Fromm's average measurables match his average play. He's scouted and ranked where he is for a reason. Average measurables and average play equates into a low first round, high second round grade? Interesting. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson were similarly evaluated. Not to say Jake is either one but scouts love those measurables. He is the type for someone to come up out of the second round and take him late in the first. You get your 5th year option on him that way. That pool of possible QB's there is larger than I can remember this year. Baltimore did it with Jackson. But it could happen more than once this year. (The Patriots would always give up that spot in the past. They may use it this year on QB.) I don't want to do it. But if we do, at least come up out of that 6 spot in the second round so we get our 5th year option.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 28, 2020 9:40:51 GMT -7
Jalen Hurts, meanwhile, improved his NFL Draft stock with a strong showing Thursday at the NFL Combine. The Heisman Trophy finalist ran a 4.59 in the 40-yard dash — the fastest among quarterbacks in his group. He did not look much different in throwing drills than Oregon's Justin Herbert or Georgia's Jake Fromm, who are generally considered the next best first-round prospects behind LSU's Joe Burrow and Alabama's Tua Tagovailo
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Post by sdc on Feb 28, 2020 13:43:38 GMT -7
Jalen Hurts, meanwhile, improved his NFL Draft stock with a strong showing Thursday at the NFL Combine. The Heisman Trophy finalist ran a 4.59 in the 40-yard dash — the fastest among quarterbacks in his group. He did not look much different in throwing drills than Oregon's Justin Herbert or Georgia's Jake Fromm, who are generally considered the next best first-round prospects behind LSU's Joe Burrow and Alabama's Tua Tagovailo The wonderlic will be his kryptonite.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 28, 2020 14:36:18 GMT -7
Jalen Hurts, meanwhile, improved his NFL Draft stock with a strong showing Thursday at the NFL Combine. The Heisman Trophy finalist ran a 4.59 in the 40-yard dash — the fastest among quarterbacks in his group. He did not look much different in throwing drills than Oregon's Justin Herbert or Georgia's Jake Fromm, who are generally considered the next best first-round prospects behind LSU's Joe Burrow and Alabama's Tua Tagovailo The wonderlic will be his kryptonite. I kind of like him as a prospect. 38-4, and his Big School Billy Resume is Alabama and Oklahoma. When do they do Wonderlic ?
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 28, 2020 19:01:28 GMT -7
....Cincinnati might trade down with the Patriots, or any other club.... The Patriots are picking 23rd in the first round. There is no plausible scenario of them trading into the top pick aside from one. Are you stating that there is a possibility, even the slightest, that the Patriots would be willing to not only trade a bunch of first round picks but also Bill Belichick to get Joe Burrows? Because he’s the only thing they’ve got that has any real value at this point. No, I do not think that trade would ever happen, it was merely a response about your 'all things possible' approach. Yea, all things are possible, but it is most likely that Cincinnati takes Burrows. I would not, but they will.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 28, 2020 19:17:09 GMT -7
Jalen Hurts, meanwhile, improved his NFL Draft stock with a strong showing Thursday at the NFL Combine. The Heisman Trophy finalist ran a 4.59 in the 40-yard dash — the fastest among quarterbacks in his group. He did not look much different in throwing drills than Oregon's Justin Herbert or Georgia's Jake Fromm, who are generally considered the next best first-round prospects behind LSU's Joe Burrow and Alabama's Tua Tagovailo The wonderlic will be his kryptonite. Do you know Hurts personally ? How could you possibly think Hurts will not be successful in his wonderlic test ?
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 29, 2020 2:51:29 GMT -7
The wonderlic will be his kryptonite. Do you know Hurts personally ? How could you possibly think Hurts will not be successful in his wonderlic test ? sdc should be nicer. But to his defense, I have heard Hurts ......um.........well, wasn't exactly in the mentally gifted program in school. I'm fine with it. The guy is a good QB. I need someone to throw the rock and run. Not build rocket ships. Kyler Murray just won OROY, and he had a low score. Maybe the most famous was Dan Marino had a low score. Jim Kelly did too.
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 29, 2020 6:14:25 GMT -7
Lamar Jackson only scored 13... Patrick Mahomes scored 24 which is considered average. Ryan Fitzpatrick holds the highest score for a QB @ 48.
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Post by sdc on Feb 29, 2020 7:04:01 GMT -7
Lamar Jackson only scored 13... Patrick Mahomes scored 24 which is considered average. Ryan Fitzpatrick holds the highest score for a QB @ 48. Jalen Hurst isn't as skilled a runner as Lamar Jackson. Still regular season Jackson is a different animal than post season Jackson. At the end of the day, you have to be smart enough to read defenses. That's the rub with Jalen Hurts.
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