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Post by moekid on Nov 5, 2019 13:26:59 GMT -7
they're playing in a 25,000 seat stadium now. Methinks that they wouldn't have moved to play in a 25,000 seat stadium permanently (Kroenke's $3+ billion stadium for $1 / year rent may have played a tiny part in the decision to pack up), but maybe they are brain-damaged enough to make the move back to a retro-fitted stadium expansion up to 50,000 souls that harkens back to the great Murph expansion. Of course, this expansion won't allow for Super Bowls in the future which I was informed by many was the major selling point for the NFL ponying up to have a team with a new stadium in SD back on the CMB. no, of course not.
Just funny to say 50k is too small given the last 3 years.
the reality is that the number of seats actually doesn't matter that much. The Chargers priced the tickets in stubhub in a way that meant they really weren't earning less money on ticket sales. They could do the same at a 50,000 seater. ticket money isn't the NFL driver. i suspect the kroenke palace would have gotten the Socal Super Bowls whether there was a new stadium in SD or not. Too much NFL stuff in the complex including NFL Network HQ.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 5, 2019 13:54:55 GMT -7
Methinks that they wouldn't have moved to play in a 25,000 seat stadium permanently (Kroenke's $3+ billion stadium for $1 / year rent may have played a tiny part in the decision to pack up), but maybe they are brain-damaged enough to make the move back to a retro-fitted stadium expansion up to 50,000 souls that harkens back to the great Murph expansion. Of course, this expansion won't allow for Super Bowls in the future which I was informed by many was the major selling point for the NFL ponying up to have a team with a new stadium in SD back on the CMB. no, of course not.
Just funny to say 50k is too small given the last 3 years.
the reality is that the number of seats actually doesn't matter that much. The Chargers priced the tickets in stubhub in a way that meant they really weren't earning less money on ticket sales. They could do the same at a 50,000 seater. ticket money isn't the NFL driver. i suspect the kroenke palace would have gotten the Socal Super Bowls whether there was a new stadium in SD or not. Too much NFL stuff in the complex including NFL Network HQ.
Cool. We can actually watch Rich Eisen disrobe for Roger Goodell live and in person.
What ? Am I the only one looking forward to it ?
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 5, 2019 14:04:30 GMT -7
Methinks that they wouldn't have moved to play in a 25,000 seat stadium permanently (Kroenke's $3+ billion stadium for $1 / year rent may have played a tiny part in the decision to pack up), but maybe they are brain-damaged enough to make the move back to a retro-fitted stadium expansion up to 50,000 souls that harkens back to the great Murph expansion. Of course, this expansion won't allow for Super Bowls in the future which I was informed by many was the major selling point for the NFL ponying up to have a team with a new stadium in SD back on the CMB. no, of course not.
Just funny to say 50k is too small given the last 3 years.
the reality is that the number of seats actually doesn't matter that much. The Chargers priced the tickets in stubhub in a way that meant they really weren't earning less money on ticket sales. They could do the same at a 50,000 seater. ticket money isn't the NFL driver. i suspect the kroenke palace would have gotten the Socal Super Bowls whether there was a new stadium in SD or not. Too much NFL stuff in the complex including NFL Network HQ.
50,000 is way too small of a stadium to "attract" (i.e., outbid) other potential locations who will offer up far more than a 50,000 seat expanded college stadium unless there is a guaranteed NFL-sized-quality venue promised a few years after arrival. It's a dream to believe it would have any chance whatsoever, but I guess that the populace that unfortunately spurned the proven modern-era NFL stadium formula (i.e., convention center expansion and hotel occupancy tax) can dream that NFL owners will be jumping at the opportunity. After all, we know that the convention center and hoteliers are third rails in SD governance: don't touch that live wire!!
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Post by boltnut on Nov 5, 2019 16:37:30 GMT -7
If you are the NFL, which is more appealing...
A) 50,000 fans at sell-out games in which 90% of fans are cheering for the home team.
B) 30,000 fans in a 70,000 seat stadium... of which 50% of the fans cheer for the "visiting" team.
C) A team playing at a 61,000 seat stadium half way across the world and incurring travel costs/time that none of the other 31 teams have to endure... in a league that promotes parity.
This is a problem of image. Do they want to further damage their image, or do they want to improve their image by fixing their mistakes...?
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Post by boltnut on Nov 5, 2019 16:45:13 GMT -7
Currently, 9 of the 32 NFL teams are averaging less than 62,000 fans/game. 2 of the 32 are averaging less than 50,000...
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Post by boltnut on Nov 5, 2019 16:59:54 GMT -7
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 6, 2019 6:26:41 GMT -7
If you are the NFL, which is more appealing... A) 50,000 fans at sell-out games in which 90% of fans are cheering for the home team. B) 30,000 fans in a 70,000 seat stadium... of which 50% of the fans cheer for the "visiting" team. C) A team playing at a 61,000 seat stadium half way across the world and incurring travel costs/time that none of the other 31 teams have to endure... in a league that promotes parity. This is a problem of image. Do they want to further damage their image, or do they want to improve their image by fixing their mistakes...? Currenty I'll take D) --------------You didn't tell me how many people are in the 61,000 seat stadium.
(HA. They think I'm a moron or something I swear. How RUDE !!)
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Post by boltnut on Nov 6, 2019 16:32:42 GMT -7
If you are the NFL, which is more appealing... A) 50,000 fans at sell-out games in which 90% of fans are cheering for the home team. B) 30,000 fans in a 70,000 seat stadium... of which 50% of the fans cheer for the "visiting" team. C) A team playing at a 61,000 seat stadium half way across the world and incurring travel costs/time that none of the other 31 teams have to endure... in a league that promotes parity. This is a problem of image. Do they want to further damage their image, or do they want to improve their image by fixing their mistakes...? Currenty I'll take D) --------------You didn't tell me how many people are in the 61,000 seat stadium.
(HA. They think I'm a moron or something I swear. How RUDE !!)
Tottenham Stadium holds 62,062. Oct. 6th 60,463 went to Bears/Raiders. Oct. 13 drew 60,087 for Panthers/Bucs. 88,000 air miles to accommodate 80,000 extra fans... great business model...
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 7, 2019 3:33:15 GMT -7
Currenty I'll take D) --------------You didn't tell me how many people are in the 61,000 seat stadium.
(HA. They think I'm a moron or something I swear. How RUDE !!)
Tottenham Stadium holds 62,062. Oct. 6th 60,463 went to Bears/Raiders. Oct. 13 drew 60,087 for Panthers/Bucs. 88,000 air miles to accommodate 80,000 extra fans... great business model... It is when that gives you a total of 80,051 !!!!!
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