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Post by moekid on Nov 5, 2019 20:35:55 GMT -7
What bundle of money are they making? All the tickets are being sold, they've sold more seat licenses than the Rams (far less expensive, and it really doesn't matter that much to Spanos because those dollars pay for stadium construction), and he'll be leasing the top stadium on the planet for home games for $1/year for a minimum of 20 years. $$$ is but one color: green. It matters not one iota what teams' fans are buying up the tickets each week, the $$$ goes into his pocket. No way, no how Spanos leaves this sweet deal behind, and I have a feeling that Kroenke ain't happy with the contract that the NFL forced him to agree to before allowing him to move and build his stadium in LA. Guarantee you that the NFL sources who provided Bonsiegere the scoop were from the Rams. So you think they’ve made a bundle on ticket sales? That’s the bundle they’re making in LA?
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 5, 2019 20:45:47 GMT -7
All the tickets are being sold, they've sold more seat licenses than the Rams (far less expensive, and it really doesn't matter that much to Spanos because those dollars pay for stadium construction), and he'll be leasing the top stadium on the planet for home games for $1/year for a minimum of 20 years. $$$ is but one color: green. It matters not one iota what teams' fans are buying up the tickets each week, the $$$ goes into his pocket. No way, no how Spanos leaves this sweet deal behind, and I have a feeling that Kroenke ain't happy with the contract that the NFL forced him to agree to before allowing him to move and build his stadium in LA. Guarantee you that the NFL sources who provided Bonsiegere the scoop were from the Rams. So you think they’ve made a bundle on ticket sales? That’s the bundle they’re making in LA? That's a small part of it. Their operational costs are low at a new state-of-the-art 70,000 seat stadium starting in 2020, their share of NFL income is 1/32, their television ratings are still very high in the SD market, and they're in the #2 market in the nation where even the Rams currently have issues with opposing fans taking over the stadium (Green Bay filled 2/3 of the Coliseum last year while even the Chargers had 30,000 fans there in 2018). Guarantee you that they're already bringing in more money than they were in SD while playing at the Murph, and revenues will climb in the future. No way they leave this financial dream deal behind, and Kroenke can't do anything about it for 20 years.
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Post by boltnut on Nov 5, 2019 21:01:08 GMT -7
They are 31st in the NFL as a revenue generator. Ticket sales/concessions/parking/sponsors are a very small part of each teams revenues.
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Post by boltnut on Nov 5, 2019 21:09:00 GMT -7
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Post by moekid on Nov 5, 2019 21:56:30 GMT -7
So you think they’ve made a bundle on ticket sales? That’s the bundle they’re making in LA? That's a small part of it. Their operational costs are low at a new state-of-the-art 70,000 seat stadium starting in 2020, their share of NFL income is 1/32, their television ratings are still very high in the SD market, and they're in the #2 market in the nation where even the Rams currently have issues with opposing fans taking over the stadium (Green Bay filled 2/3 of the Coliseum last year while even the Chargers had 30,000 fans there in 2018). Guarantee you that they're already bringing in more money than they were in SD while playing at the Murph, and revenues will climb in the future. No way they leave this financial dream deal behind, and Kroenke can't do anything about it for 20 years. Oh, you’re projecting into the future. I thought you were saying they were making a bundle now? Tickets sales are shared with the visiting team so that’s not a boon. The one and only reason to move to LA was to get corporate money from luxury suites. That hasn’t materialized. At all. Size of the media market is irrelevant. They get 1/32 of the TV money wherever they are. Doesn’t matter what their ratings are. At all.
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Post by chargerfreak on Nov 6, 2019 3:22:27 GMT -7
They are 31st in the NFL as a revenue generator. Ticket sales/concessions/parking/sponsors are a very small part of each teams revenues. Ha Ha, we aren't in last ! Go Not Last !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by afboltfan on Nov 6, 2019 7:15:22 GMT -7
We're all in for a rude awakening in a few years... That technological terror that was created for the Rams will not save the Chargers in LA. I'm basically in this till the team is unfollowable, who knows how long that will be.
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 6, 2019 10:03:31 GMT -7
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Post by totallybolted on Nov 6, 2019 10:29:48 GMT -7
London is not calling,
SPANOS said so.
close the thread
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 6, 2019 11:31:14 GMT -7
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Post by Chargeroo on Nov 6, 2019 12:31:14 GMT -7
much ado about nothing!
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Post by joemcrugby on Nov 6, 2019 14:10:44 GMT -7
Like I said at the beginning ...
On Chargers’ persistent relocation rumors, common sense points to the Rams Mike Florio 5 hours ago
The Chargers’ struggles in L.A. continue to be exacerbated by periodic reports that they won’t be staying in L.A. for very long. And that’s very good news for the other NFL team in L.A.
It also makes the Rams the prime suspects in the endless stream of rumor, speculation, and innuendo regarding a potential relocation of the Chargers.
Whether it’s a return to San Diego, a relocation to St. Louis, or a 5,400-mile move to London (none of which are happening), the whispers that the Chargers won’t be long for Los Angeles continue. Given that they’re coming at a time when both the Chargers and the Rams are trying to sell PSLs, tickets, and/or suites at the new stadium they’ll share as of 2020, lingering uncertainty regarding the Chargers inures directly to the benefit of the Rams.
In every market, sports fans have only so many dollars to spend. With two NFL teams in the same market, and with both teams trying to establish a base of paying customers in a 70,000-seat venue when the paying customers can choose to patronize either team, one way win the battles for the hearts, minds, and wallets of Angelenos would be to perpetuate the notion that one of the two contenders may remove itself from the competition.
While fans picking the Rams over the Chargers hurts the Rams indirectly by depressing the revenue the Chargers will generate at the stadium owned by Rams owner Stan Kroenke, fans of teams facing the Chargers will still buy the tickets to games (with 20-plus years of no NFL teams in L.A., thousands of fans of every team reside there), making the stadium full or close to it regardless of the size of the Chargers’ fan base in L.A.
So Kroenke will still make money from having the Chargers play at his stadium, and the Rams will preserve their top-dog position in the L.A. market if the Chargers’ struggles to establish a foothold continue to be undermined by the perception that they already have one foot out the door.
To be fair, the Chargers have done little to protect themselves. Last year’s 12-4 season generated little or no local excitement, and the team has made decisions in free agency and the draft without regard to the importance of having players that fans will pay to see. The Rams have found a way to operate with substance and style, and style definitely becomes a big part of the equation in L.A.
Whether the Chargers adjust their roster-management strategy accordingly, they definitely have dramatically changed their P.R. approach. The deliciously profane comments from owner Dean Spanos ooze with the frustration that comes from the perception/reality that the Rams are working the media to establish and maintain a false narrative that the Chargers may leave. Hopefully, Spanos and company will work behind the scenes to tell the league and the Rams that the Chargers understand what the Rams are doing, and that if the Rams keep it up the next batch of quotes from Spanos will include both profanity and a direct claim that the Rams are behind the leaks of #fakenews.
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Post by moekid on Nov 6, 2019 15:03:37 GMT -7
Fight for LA back on?
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Post by boltnut on Nov 6, 2019 15:45:19 GMT -7
They are 31st in the NFL as a revenue generator. Ticket sales/concessions/parking/sponsors are a very small part of each teams revenues. Ha Ha, we aren't in last ! Go Not Last !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't get too excited Freak, the 32nd place team moves into a new stadium (not as a renter) next year... Then we may be all by our lonesome.
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Post by boltnut on Nov 6, 2019 16:12:13 GMT -7
Yes... which LA team can attract the most visiting fans...? Although as we've pointed out many, many times... it's not the general ticket sales each owner is after. It's the luxury suite sales that separate the rich from the poor. TV is the big cash cow that they all suckle off. Remember when the Greater Southern California Mega Market was going to overflow with milk and honey...? People who weren't football fans were going to give up yachting, skiing, and trips to the polo grounds to buy Chargers'/Rams' luxury suites... The PSL purchasers were going to riot at the ticket windows on day one when all PSL's had sold out and The Grand Palace was magically paid for... The 405 was going to be jammed on Sundays with all the North County/SD County Chargers' fans coming to the game... "It's only 100 miles", they said... LOL! Back on the CMB we tried to tell them... we tried to explain the SD fan base to them... we tried to explain the LA fan base to them... we tried to explain common logic... Revenge is a dish best served cold...
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