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Post by sonorajim on Jan 7, 2020 18:01:41 GMT -7
There's no chance at all that LAC will play the same amount of snaps with the identical OL players. 1. It's a lock that there will be OL addition(s). 2. You can't take the experience away that our OL depth & development guys gained. 3. Hard to predict how many games Okung & Pouncey will play/miss. 4. You don't have to use #6 to get a good-great offensive lineman in this draft. 5. FA has been TT's most productive OL resource.
I would very much like to see us field a star OL player next year. One guy (or more) who is really doing a great job makes the rest of our blockers a few clicks better. So would a great young QB with some movement skills. I wish TT & Co the best of good fortune with their choices in FA & draft.
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Post by headtrip on Jan 7, 2020 18:25:01 GMT -7
TT 'could' get the OC in the 3rd rd if the OL evaluations were even remotely solid, but that hasn't been the case for years. Why is that true? OL product reflected in yards per carry, sacks allowed, 13-5 season was better than avg in 2018. There was never a moment that went by where that line was better than average, and that was before our 31 year old star LT missed time because he almost died of a pulmonary embolism. This incarnation of that line is ****ed.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 7, 2020 18:29:00 GMT -7
Since 2010 first round QB's... Bolded are in the league, underlined are starting. 14 starters, most within the last 3 years, take from it what you will...
2010- 1. Sam Bradford 25. Tim Tebow
2011- 1. Cam Newton 8. Jake Locker 10. Blaine Gabbert 12. Christian Ponder
2012- 1. Andrew Luck 2. Robert Griffin III 8. Ryan Tannehill 22. Brandon Weeden
2013- 16. EJ Manuel
2014- 3. Blake Bortles 22. Johnny Manziel 32. Teddy Bridgewater
2015- 1. Jameis Winston 2. Marcus Mariota
2016- 1. Jared Goff 2. Carson Wentz 26. Paxton Lynch
2017- 10. Patrick Mahomes 2. Mitchell Trubisky 12. Deshaun Watson
2018- 1. Baker Mayfield 3. Sam Darnold 7. Josh Allen 10. Josh Rosen
2019- 1. Kyler Murray 6. Daniel Jones 15. Dwayne Haskins
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 8, 2020 6:57:26 GMT -7
I mentioned this before. less than 50% of the QB's taken in the first are starting. For your list (14). Of those (12) are Top 10 picks. So there's that. We can argue how many are "Franchise" QB's. But to me only 2 (Mahommes, Goff). The rest are ?. Wentz is too hurt to last another year. Too early for Mayfield.
I'll stay with my path. OL/DL with #6. Depending on FA. QB in rounds 2-4
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 8, 2020 8:33:50 GMT -7
With a first rd pick, go BPA just about every time. The exception would be QB. Resigning Rivers is smart because it allows for consideration of all options such as taking a QB, going BPA, trading....etc etc. Ultimately they need to decide their path forward on QB, then they can determine other aspects of the plan.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 8, 2020 8:43:09 GMT -7
With a first rd pick, go BPA just about every time. The exception would be QB. Resigning Rivers is smart because it allows for consideration of all options such as taking a QB, going BPA, trading....etc etc. Ultimately they need to decide their path forward on QB, then they can determine other aspects of the plan. I will be so glad when that happens... Then we can move on to another topic and not worry about the position anymore.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 8, 2020 8:50:21 GMT -7
With a first rd pick, go BPA just about every time. The exception would be QB. Resigning Rivers is smart because it allows for consideration of all options such as taking a QB, going BPA, trading....etc etc. Ultimately they need to decide their path forward on QB, then they can determine other aspects of the plan. I will be so glad when that happens... Then we can move on to another topic and not worry about the position anymore. Would you feel so unworried if the decision moving forward was to roll with Taylor as the starter, and not drafting a QB @ #6 ?
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Post by boltgang74 on Jan 8, 2020 10:58:46 GMT -7
Gulp
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 8, 2020 11:13:21 GMT -7
With a first rd pick, go BPA just about every time. The exception would be QB. Resigning Rivers is smart because it allows for consideration of all options such as taking a QB, going BPA, trading....etc etc. Ultimately they need to decide their path forward on QB, then they can determine other aspects of the plan. I will be so glad when that happens... Then we can move on to another topic and not worry about the position anymore. If the Bolts draft a Qb at #6, you WILL worry about the position still. Until #6 proves otherwise
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Post by sonorajim on Jan 8, 2020 12:09:19 GMT -7
I will be so glad when that happens... Then we can move on to another topic and not worry about the position anymore. If the Bolts draft a Qb at #6, you WILL worry about the position still. Until #6 proves otherwise I'd worry about any position we draft. #6 doesn't guarantee a hit anywhere, particularly in their rookie year. We can debate odds for one position over another based on history but it's always about the individual chosen. Draft/rewards is clearly not an exact science.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 8, 2020 12:13:59 GMT -7
I will be so glad when that happens... Then we can move on to another topic and not worry about the position anymore. Would you feel so unworried if the decision moving forward was to roll with Taylor as the starter, and not drafting a QB @ #6 ? What I'm basically saying is that I'm tired of talking about PR and ready to get to a conclusion on whether he stays or go's... I've said before I'd be fine with Taylor starting, although I would hope we draft a QB at #6 if that were to happen. I actually prefer it over PR, have said that previously as well.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 8, 2020 12:31:38 GMT -7
If the Bolts draft a Qb at #6, you WILL worry about the position still. Until #6 proves otherwise I'd worry about any position we draft. #6 doesn't guarantee a hit anywhere, particularly in their rookie year. We can debate odds for one position over another based on history but it's always about the individual chosen. Draft/rewards is clearly not an exact science. Jeudy = Day One Starter. Andrew Thomas = Day One Starter
Book it.
Now book it because I said so.
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Post by sonorajim on Jan 8, 2020 13:08:04 GMT -7
I'd worry about any position we draft. #6 doesn't guarantee a hit anywhere, particularly in their rookie year. We can debate odds for one position over another based on history but it's always about the individual chosen. Draft/rewards is clearly not an exact science. Jeudy = Day One Starter. Andrew Thomas = Day One Starter
Book it.
Now book it because I said so.
Your odds are good. They're probably as likely as QBs Burrow & Tua.
ps: starting day 1 isn't all I'm looking for. It's nice but being a PB candidate consistently is better.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 8, 2020 13:19:40 GMT -7
Jeudy = Day One Starter. Andrew Thomas = Day One Starter
Book it.
Now book it because I said so.
Your odds are good. They're probably as likely as QBs Burrow & Tua.
ps: starting day 1 isn't all I'm looking for. It's nice but being a PB candidate consistently is better.
HOW DARE YOU NOT BOOK SOMETHING AFTER I TELL YOU TO BOOK IT ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Oh, the villagers have gone mad after 5-11 Oh, how do we afford Rivers, Ekeler, Henry, Gordon, Phillips, Bosa, Davis, Benjamin all the same time !
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 8, 2020 14:54:13 GMT -7
Booking dot yeahhhhh!!!
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