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Post by headtrip on Jan 20, 2020 17:09:57 GMT -7
Do you think TT concluded that Rivers was the problem and won't re-up him ? I get this sense that there was a bit of a power struggle between Lynn and Rivers, and with the statements of support for Lynn staying as HC, Rivers will just move on. Lynn is not winning a Super Bowl as a HC......ever. Rivers is not winning the Super Bowl as a Bolt. I doubt anyone named Spanos will ever hold up the Lombardi...... Say the Bolts win 4 games next year does Lynn get the axe? If so, surely TT has to go too right?
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Post by moekid on Jan 20, 2020 17:51:32 GMT -7
I get this sense that there was a bit of a power struggle between Lynn and Rivers, and with the statements of support for Lynn staying as HC, Rivers will just move on. Lynn is not winning a Super Bowl as a HC......ever. Rivers is not winning the Super Bowl as a Bolt. I doubt anyone named Spanos will ever hold up the Lombardi...... Say the Bolts win 4 games next year does Lynn get the axe? If so, surely TT has to go too right? I’m ready to fire both now so you know my answer
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Post by headtrip on Jan 20, 2020 18:01:15 GMT -7
Say the Bolts win 4 games next year does Lynn get the axe? If so, surely TT has to go too right? I’m ready to fire both now so you know my answer I don’t think firing TT does anything to fix the front office, there’s still going to be a Spanos in the room “giving input” to the GM. But I also don’t see how a GM can be allowed to pick a 3rd HC in what...7 years? So basically both will stay for another 2 years at least.
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Post by moekid on Jan 20, 2020 18:10:25 GMT -7
I’m ready to fire both now so you know my answer I don’t think firing TT does anything to fix the front office, there’s still going to be a Spanos in the room “giving input” to the GM. But I also don’t see how a GM can be allowed to pick a 3rd HC in what...7 years? So basically both will stay for another 2 years at least. We’ve only succeeded in The Spanos era when we’ve had a strong GM and strong HC (beathard/ross and Marty/butler) I’d hire John Dorsey
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 20, 2020 18:42:05 GMT -7
I get this sense that there was a bit of a power struggle between Lynn and Rivers, and with the statements of support for Lynn staying as HC, Rivers will just move on. Lynn is not winning a Super Bowl as a HC......ever. Rivers is not winning the Super Bowl as a Bolt. I doubt anyone named Spanos will ever hold up the Lombardi...... Say the Bolts win 4 games next year does Lynn get the axe? If so, surely TT has to go too right? Depends, as there are two different evaluations going before you would make two different decisions. In my view,: Lynn should have been gone at seasons end, so he is most definitely on a very short leash now. He starts next year out 0-2 or 1-3, or something along those lines and he would be gone. If TT resigns Bosa and HH, cap space looks good, future contracts annual cost are solid, draft was reasonable......not a chance he gets fired. TT gets fired the day J Spanos wants to play GM, at least that is my guess.
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Post by headtrip on Jan 20, 2020 18:54:41 GMT -7
I don’t think firing TT does anything to fix the front office, there’s still going to be a Spanos in the room “giving input” to the GM. But I also don’t see how a GM can be allowed to pick a 3rd HC in what...7 years? So basically both will stay for another 2 years at least. We’ve only succeeded in The Spanos era when we’ve had a strong GM and strong HC (beathard/ross and Marty/butler) I’d hire John Dorsey Marty/AJ more like, but point taken. Sadly, we clearly don’t have that, and a change probably won’t be made for at least 2 years. Put Dorsey on retainer.
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Post by headtrip on Jan 20, 2020 18:59:53 GMT -7
Say the Bolts win 4 games next year does Lynn get the axe? If so, surely TT has to go too right? Depends, as there are two different evaluations going before you would make two different decisions. In my view,: Lynn should have been gone at seasons end, so he is most definitely on a very short leash now. He starts next year out 0-2 or 1-3, or something along those lines and he would be gone. If TT resigns Bosa and HH, cap space looks good, future contracts annual cost are solid, draft was reasonable......not a chance he gets fired. TT gets fired the day J Spanos wants to play GM, at least that is my guess. I can’t see Lynn being on that short of a leash. If/when we’re eliminated from playoff contention a change might be made, but not before IMO. And if that happens I doubt TT’s draft(s) look good. How could TT be allowed to take part in the selection process of another HC at that point?
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 20, 2020 20:11:01 GMT -7
Depends, as there are two different evaluations going before you would make two different decisions. In my view,: Lynn should have been gone at seasons end, so he is most definitely on a very short leash now. He starts next year out 0-2 or 1-3, or something along those lines and he would be gone. If TT resigns Bosa and HH, cap space looks good, future contracts annual cost are solid, draft was reasonable......not a chance he gets fired. TT gets fired the day J Spanos wants to play GM, at least that is my guess. I can’t see Lynn being on that short of a leash. If/when we’re eliminated from playoff contention a change might be made, but not before IMO. And if that happens I doubt TT’s draft(s) look good. How could TT be allowed to take part in the selection process of another HC at that point? TT might be in the room when a HC decision was being made, but I doubt he has a very influential voice. The draft is a collaborative event, and until J Spanos is willing to own the decisions, TT takes the hit. That just comes with being GM....... We simply see things differently as applied to Lynn.
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Post by headtrip on Jan 20, 2020 20:21:14 GMT -7
I can’t see Lynn being on that short of a leash. If/when we’re eliminated from playoff contention a change might be made, but not before IMO. And if that happens I doubt TT’s draft(s) look good. How could TT be allowed to take part in the selection process of another HC at that point? TT might be in the room when a HC decision was being made, but I doubt he has a very influential voice. The draft is a collaborative event, and until J Spanos is willing to own the decisions, TT takes the hit. That just comes with being GM....... We simply see things differently as applied to Lynn. I think we’re on the same page that he isn’t good. From a front office perspective, he’s had one great season and the mother of all built in excuses for next season if he loses his franchise QB and Tyrod or a rookie is starting. I do think TT is tied to Lynn though, I don’t see how AL can get fired without TT being right behind. Not after the Mike McCoy debacle.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 20, 2020 21:20:32 GMT -7
TT might be in the room when a HC decision was being made, but I doubt he has a very influential voice. The draft is a collaborative event, and until J Spanos is willing to own the decisions, TT takes the hit. That just comes with being GM....... We simply see things differently as applied to Lynn. I think we’re on the same page that he isn’t good. From a front office perspective, he’s had one great season and the mother of all built in excuses for next season if he loses his franchise QB and Tyrod or a rookie is starting. I do think TT is tied to Lynn though, I don’t see how AL can get fired without TT being right behind. Not after the Mike McCoy debacle. He being Lynn ? I think Lynn is just average, and we have seen his best already, which really is nothing to get excited about. Average.....moving on from him should be easy. TT ? He has done a solid job when one actually considers all the things that fall under a GM's responsibilities. They are two separate decisions.
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Post by headtrip on Jan 20, 2020 21:39:13 GMT -7
I think we’re on the same page that he isn’t good. From a front office perspective, he’s had one great season and the mother of all built in excuses for next season if he loses his franchise QB and Tyrod or a rookie is starting. I do think TT is tied to Lynn though, I don’t see how AL can get fired without TT being right behind. Not after the Mike McCoy debacle. He being Lynn ? I think Lynn is just average, and we have seen his best already, which really is nothing to get excited about. Average.....moving on from him should be easy. TT ? He has done a solid job when one actually considers all the things that fall under a GM's responsibilities. They are two separate decisions. He being Lynn, yes. TT’s two most important jobs have been hiring a HC (twice) and giving Rivers a good offensive line. McCoy was a failure, Lynn is a question mark but isn’t trending well, and the Oline is, as it’s been throughout his tenure, bad. To address your point though, TT’s evaluation is directly tied to Lynn. If A 2nd TT selected HC fails he shouldn’t be allowed to select a 3rd no matter how well he’s managed the cap etc. This is all rhetorical though. TT is called the GM but who knows how much power he really has. Firing him still leaves the rest of the front office to deal with.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 21, 2020 2:15:10 GMT -7
He being Lynn ? I think Lynn is just average, and we have seen his best already, which really is nothing to get excited about. Average.....moving on from him should be easy. TT ? He has done a solid job when one actually considers all the things that fall under a GM's responsibilities. They are two separate decisions. He being Lynn, yes. TT’s two most important jobs have been hiring a HC (twice) and giving Rivers a good offensive line. McCoy was a failure, Lynn is a question mark but isn’t trending well, and the Oline is, as it’s been throughout his tenure, bad. To address your point though, TT’s evaluation is directly tied to Lynn. If A 2nd TT selected HC fails he shouldn’t be allowed to select a 3rd no matter how well he’s managed the cap etc. This is all rhetorical though. TT is called the GM but who knows how much power he really has. Firing him still leaves the rest of the front office to deal with. No it isn't. The HC might be up the list, but giving Rivers a good oline ?? Everything that goes into GM and that's the most important ? You think Lynn has excelled at coaching an oline ? Has the OC that was fired ?? The oline coach is world class ? I would easily put overall drafting well and managing the Cap as more important. Fixing the QB problem.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 21, 2020 2:16:52 GMT -7
I get this sense that there was a bit of a power struggle between Lynn and Rivers, and with the statements of support for Lynn staying as HC, Rivers will just move on. Lynn is not winning a Super Bowl as a HC......ever. Rivers is not winning the Super Bowl as a Bolt. I doubt anyone named Spanos will ever hold up the Lombardi...... Say the Bolts win 4 games next year does Lynn get the axe? If so, surely TT has to go too right? That's really easy. Yes, he would be gone.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 21, 2020 3:01:57 GMT -7
Honestly guys, I have looked over the free agent QB's..............I know you are all on pins and needles right now.................I'm savoring the moment................
The only one I am even close to feeling is: Teddy Bridgewater.
and I would prefer to sell the draft for Joe Burrow. Which is really unusual for me. I like the sure thing, but I don't like the QB free agent pool this year.
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Post by eurobolt on Jan 21, 2020 6:03:22 GMT -7
Teddy Bridgewater
the only one worth bridge qb title.
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