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Post by boltnut on Feb 9, 2020 0:50:30 GMT -7
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Post by thannah40 on Feb 9, 2020 4:06:53 GMT -7
Ekeler and Gordon had decent seasons considering our record... I suffice to say our oline was more middle of the pack and PR's lead feet dragged them to 29th. Naysayers going to naysay!! haters gonna hate
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Post by thannah40 on Feb 9, 2020 4:07:43 GMT -7
Ekeler and Gordon had decent seasons considering our record... I suffice to say our oline was more middle of the pack and PR's lead feet dragged them to 29th. Naysayers going to naysay!! Ekeler's ypc dropped from 5.2 to 4.2 and MG's dropped from 5.1 to 3.9. PR had one of the very lowest "time-to-throw" averages (2.63 sec) in the NFL, yet Chargers were 31st in pressures given up. Still not buying it... again...haters gonna hate
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Post by thannah40 on Feb 9, 2020 4:11:20 GMT -7
Ekeler's ypc dropped from 5.2 to 4.2 and MG's dropped from 5.1 to 3.9. PR had one of the very lowest "time-to-throw" averages (2.63 sec) in the NFL, yet Chargers were 31st in pressures given up. Still not buying it... Ekeler was beast before Gordon came back and failed to live up to his own hype... Gordon's decline was mental, and Ekeler lost carries he shouldn't have. Considering PR's career average time to throw is around 3 seconds, 2.63 seems right for an aging QB that can't move around the pocket. agree with everything up to PR. He could NEVER move around the pocket. So if that’s the case, and the O line is worse, the QB play is affected. No blocking>no Time>hits on RB at or behind LOS>rushed and bad QB play. The key there...No blocking
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 9, 2020 4:55:03 GMT -7
Chargers are trying to trade up for #1 according to Dan Sileo You mean Freak is on to something when he tells you we MUST have an answer for SB Mahomes, and Tyrod is not it ?? Amazing.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 9, 2020 4:57:45 GMT -7
What if I told you PR made our oline look worse than it really is... I know, ya'lls mind is blown! I don't think he's faking when Pipkins whiffs on the 300 pound guy running about a 4.1 40 is crunching into him like a runaway train. If he is he needs to move back to So Cal and go to Hollywood.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 9, 2020 5:00:17 GMT -7
Ekeler and Gordon had decent seasons considering our record... I suffice to say our oline was more middle of the pack and PR's lead feet dragged them to 29th. Naysayers going to naysay!! If decent means they should be grateful they are still alive, then yeah, they had decent seasons.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 9, 2020 5:41:55 GMT -7
Chargers are trying to trade up for #1 according to Dan Sileo [Sileo] Bengals I have been told are listening to offers for the #1 pick in the NFL Draft from Chargers, Dolphins, Broncos, Bears and Buccaneers #SelltheFarm
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 9, 2020 7:02:27 GMT -7
Ekeler was beast before Gordon came back and failed to live up to his own hype... Gordon's decline was mental, and Ekeler lost carries he shouldn't have. Considering PR's career average time to throw is around 3 seconds, 2.63 seems right for an aging QB that can't move around the pocket. agree with everything up to PR. He could NEVER move around the pocket. So if that’s the case, and the O line is worse, the QB play is affected. No blocking>no Time>hits on RB at or behind LOS>rushed and bad QB play. The key there...No blocking PR had the 5th lowest Sack % of his career this last year... PR was sacked more in 2018 than he was last year. If you really look at the numbers the only significant difference between the run game, oline, and PR is... PR's decline. I'm NOT saying our oline was good, but they are not as bad as people are making them out to be. The whole reason I say this is because I'd really like to see another QB behind that line, definetley with a few changes/additions.
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 9, 2020 9:38:22 GMT -7
Chargers are trying to trade up for #1 according to Dan Sileo [Sileo] Bengals I have been told are listening to offers for the #1 pick in the NFL Draft from Chargers, Dolphins, Broncos, Bears and Buccaneers #SelltheFarm Looks like clickbait from a radio jock desperate to be relevant on Twitter (and probably elsewhere). Meh.
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 9, 2020 13:01:52 GMT -7
No question that there was room for improvement on OL. Same for Rivers who did not have a great completion on each play that was adequately blocked. Rivers used to get the ball out in 2 secs. With NO blocking it takes @ 1.0 sec to hit him. Receiver routs & execution may be in question bur it's not ALL OL. There should be multiple receivers with quick developing routes and a deep threat on most passes mixed with runs. A lot of times no one was open quick, others, Rivers didn't see them. It's never going to be perfect but we were farther from the mark than they should have been.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 9, 2020 15:00:59 GMT -7
No question that there was room for improvement on OL. Same for Rivers who did not have a great completion on each play that was adequately blocked. Rivers used to get the ball out in 2 secs. With NO blocking it takes @ 1.0 sec to hit him. Receiver routs & execution may be in question bur it's not ALL OL. There should be multiple receivers with quick developing routes and a deep threat on most passes mixed with runs. A lot of times no one was open quick, others, Rivers didn't see them. It's never going to be perfect but we were farther from the mark than they should have been. Spin it any way you like, but the OL has been terrible for years now, and are the predominant reason the offence has been less than. Fix the OL......then worry about the next step.
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 9, 2020 15:27:14 GMT -7
No question that there was room for improvement on OL. Same for Rivers who did not have a great completion on each play that was adequately blocked. Rivers used to get the ball out in 2 secs. With NO blocking it takes @ 1.0 sec to hit him. Receiver routs & execution may be in question bur it's not ALL OL. There should be multiple receivers with quick developing routes and a deep threat on most passes mixed with runs. A lot of times no one was open quick, others, Rivers didn't see them. It's never going to be perfect but we were farther from the mark than they should have been. Spin it any way you like, but the OL has been terrible for years now, and are the predominant reason the offence has been less than. Fix the OL......then worry about the next step. By the time they fix the OL they’ll have plenty of next steps to do.
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Post by boltnut on Feb 9, 2020 15:36:42 GMT -7
agree with everything up to PR. He could NEVER move around the pocket. So if that’s the case, and the O line is worse, the QB play is affected. No blocking>no Time>hits on RB at or behind LOS>rushed and bad QB play. The key there...No blocking PR had the 5th lowest Sack % of his career this last year... PR was sacked more in 2018 than he was last year. If you really look at the numbers the only significant difference between the run game, oline, and PR is... PR's decline. I'm NOT saying our oline was good, but they are not as bad as people are making them out to be. The whole reason I say this is because I'd really like to see another QB behind that line, definetley with a few changes/additions. Rivers was sacked 34 times in 2019 and sacked 32 times in 2018. Not sure where you got your stats... Doesn't really matter, PR is very good at getting the ball out quickly. He always has. Here's a significant difference in 2018/2019 run game... In 2019, Austin Ekeler faced 8-in-the-box only 10.61% of the time (6th lowest in NFL). Yet, he ran for a full yard less in 2019 than he did in 2018... when he faced 8-in-the-box 28.3% of the time. Melvin Gordon's numbers are similar... 26%/5.1 (2018) and 12%/3.9 (2019). If you can't run, teams' defenses won't commit to stopping it. They'll just drop LB's into coverage and reduce passing lanes. KA didn't forget how to run some of the most precise routes in the NFL. His routes just got covered better through sheer numbers/defenders. Same thing was happening to MW, HH, and TB. If teams know you can't/won't/shouldn't run, then they're going to dedicate to coverage. No wonder PR's TD/INT rate went up in 2019. No wonder Chargers suck in the redzone... Put any QB you'd like (hell, mortgage the future to move up and get Burrows) behind that gawd aweful OL. It won't matter. Fix the OL.
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Post by boltgang74 on Feb 9, 2020 15:46:20 GMT -7
Amen!Stop pussy footin round the root of our offensive problems and build a good solid dependable o line.If the honchos are unable to do this ya better get better honchos plain n simple.Modern football my ass,get an accurate QB (guess what we have one already unless Tommyjohn already burned that bridge)then put a real NFL caliber o line in front of em.Grab a WR#3 and a mid round gem RB and let's get back to some 2018 style winning already.
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