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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 10, 2020 7:44:55 GMT -7
Don't read what you want to, read what I wrote...................................Splashy time at OT,,,,,,,,,,,,solid free agent Guard. TT does little FA splashing, so my point still stands as valid. With Rivers money out of the way, they can structure Bridgewater in.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 10, 2020 8:11:40 GMT -7
TT does little FA splashing, so my point still stands as valid. With Rivers money out of the way, they can structure Bridgewater in. So the OT signing, say Conklin, would be the splash FA signing. Bridgewater's signing would be just ho hum....... TT will have plenty of cap available, and could create even more by releasing some, so fitting Bridgewater in isn't an issue.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Feb 10, 2020 8:37:20 GMT -7
With Rivers money out of the way, they can structure Bridgewater in. So the OT signing, say Conklin, would be the splash FA signing. Bridgewater's signing would be just ho hum....... TT will have plenty of cap available, and could create even more by releasing some, so fitting Bridgewater in isn't an issue. Just because Bridgewater is the best of the free agent QBs, doesn't mean that he is a guaranteed success and the savior for our future at QB. He has plenty of risks- injury being perhaps the biggest, but other questions as well. I like TB, but I am not ALL IN on him.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 10, 2020 8:57:13 GMT -7
With Rivers money out of the way, they can structure Bridgewater in. So the OT signing, say Conklin, would be the splash FA signing. Bridgewater's signing would be just ho hum....... TT will have plenty of cap available, and could create even more by releasing some, so fitting Bridgewater in isn't an issue. Yes. I mean for the most part I can see your post being true. It is a tough, tough situation. Honestly goalie, the only way out of it, too get a little excited, might be move up for Burrow or Tua. Bridgewater is pretty groovy, but there are injury concerns, BUT I want to research that some. Herbert looks to have size and arm strength. Is he RAW talent ? I am hearing he is. Year 2 or 3, he COULD destroy face in the NFL. But you might have to eat year one to get there. I'm going to give you a very secret sneaky stat on Herbert, that I did not like: Did you know over 30% of his pass completions were screens ?
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 10, 2020 8:58:51 GMT -7
So the OT signing, say Conklin, would be the splash FA signing. Bridgewater's signing would be just ho hum....... TT will have plenty of cap available, and could create even more by releasing some, so fitting Bridgewater in isn't an issue. Just because Bridgewater is the best of the free agent QBs, doesn't mean that he is a guaranteed success and the savior for our future at QB. He has plenty of risks- injury being perhaps the biggest, but other questions as well. I like TB, but I am not ALL IN on him. I know Bridgewater had the big injury (broke his leg in Minnesota as I recall). have there been others ? There is a difference between major injury years ago, and being glass. (we know those differences ALL to well....................)
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Post by moekid on Feb 10, 2020 9:03:26 GMT -7
Teddy was highly thought of in Minn before his injury. Didn’t he go undefeated as a starter at NO last season 5-0. That’s what I thought. Nothing wrong with that |
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 10, 2020 10:40:01 GMT -7
So the OT signing, say Conklin, would be the splash FA signing. Bridgewater's signing would be just ho hum....... TT will have plenty of cap available, and could create even more by releasing some, so fitting Bridgewater in isn't an issue. Just because Bridgewater is the best of the free agent QBs, doesn't mean that he is a guaranteed success and the savior for our future at QB. He has plenty of risks- injury being perhaps the biggest, but other questions as well. I like TB, but I am not ALL IN on him. I am not a fan of signing Bridgewater........pretty much view it as a mistake. Roll with Taylor, and draft a QB......
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 10, 2020 10:55:05 GMT -7
So the OT signing, say Conklin, would be the splash FA signing. Bridgewater's signing would be just ho hum....... TT will have plenty of cap available, and could create even more by releasing some, so fitting Bridgewater in isn't an issue. Yes. I mean for the most part I can see your post being true. It is a tough, tough situation. Honestly goalie, the only way out of it, too get a little excited, might be move up for Burrow or Tua. Bridgewater is pretty groovy, but there are injury concerns, BUT I want to research that some. Herbert looks to have size and arm strength. Is he RAW talent ? I am hearing he is. Year 2 or 3, he COULD destroy face in the NFL. But you might have to eat year one to get there. I'm going to give you a very secret sneaky stat on Herbert, that I did not like: Did you know over 30% of his pass completions were screens ? Trading up for Burrow would be too costly, and would set the roster build back to the point of reconsidering the timing on pretty much every player. I would not take Tua if he was there at 6th, certainly not trading up for him. Herbert at 6th is possible, but I strongly believe there will be far better talent available, so I am taking that talent. Simmons please..... The option you failed to consider is taking a QB mid rounds........3rd or 4th......perhaps the deficiency in drafting OL is offset by an ability to draft QB's. (not likely, eh) Which means 70% were downfield......works for me, as the RB's are very good at catching the ball. Now to get that OL that can block.......
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 10, 2020 11:33:11 GMT -7
Just because Bridgewater is the best of the free agent QBs, doesn't mean that he is a guaranteed success and the savior for our future at QB. He has plenty of risks- injury being perhaps the biggest, but other questions as well. I like TB, but I am not ALL IN on him. I am not a fan of signing Bridgewater........pretty much view it as a mistake. Roll with Taylor, and draft a QB...... It looks like starting Taylor is the only answer you want. That's fine. You are not alone. But I can tell you here and now that is not what they are going to do. I wouldn't either. Just remember i told you we are facing Mahomes. You go with Taylor as a plan, you are automatically forfeiting the division.
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Post by lazylightning on Feb 10, 2020 11:44:02 GMT -7
I am not a fan of signing Bridgewater........pretty much view it as a mistake. Roll with Taylor, and draft a QB...... It looks like starting Taylor is the only answer you want. That's fine. You are not alone. But I can tell you here and now that is not what they are going to do. I wouldn't either. Just remember i told you we are facing Mahomes. You go with Taylor as a plan, you are automatically forfeiting the division. Now that the Rivers option is out, put me in the "Start Taylor" camp. Use the $$ saved to sign Bosa and fix the O-Line. Neither Bridgewater nor Tua nor any other injury prone QB will survive with the current O-Line.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 10, 2020 12:17:43 GMT -7
I am not a fan of signing Bridgewater........pretty much view it as a mistake. Roll with Taylor, and draft a QB...... It looks like starting Taylor is the only answer you want. That's fine. You are not alone. But I can tell you here and now that is not what they are going to do. I wouldn't either. Just remember i told you we are facing Mahomes. You go with Taylor as a plan, you are automatically forfeiting the division. Not so quick, as I would like to evaluate the less marketed QB's in this draft. Keep hearing the name Fromm, and perhaps there is some love for Love. Taylor as a possible solution, but perhaps Stick or a rookie surprises behind that awesome new OL that TT is going to get, which is a big get. As far as Mahomes, get me Simmons @ #6, then pray Tillery actually shows some value. Build the defence, it is far closer to being the real deal. The Bolts are likely two years out, if all goes well, which it won't. Rolling with Taylor isn't that big a deal, and is much better than wasting a ton of cap on an overpriced QB from FA.
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Post by boltnut on Feb 10, 2020 12:29:32 GMT -7
I think the QB conversation needs to start with identifying the in-house FA's we want to re-sign and the upcoming contracts we wish to re-new soon. Drafting a QB (instead of signing a FA QB) allows us to do that.
Players to re-sign: Hunter Henry, Adrian Philips, Austin Ekeler, Isaac Rochelle, Jaylin Watkins, Derek Watt, and Michael Davis.
Contracts soon to re-new: Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram, Keenan Allen, Desmond King, Denzel Perryman, Rayshawn Jenkins.
A FA QB contract would overlap all of those contracts. There are many others... I just don't see us extending a lot of them or signing them on the cheap (Okung, Pouncey, Lamp, Tevi, Feeney, Facyson, Justin Jackson, Badgley, Tyrod, Mebane, Thomas Davis, Virgil Green)
My preference would be to use #6 to draft an OT and then start looking at QB (round 2-4.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 10, 2020 12:50:25 GMT -7
I think the QB conversation needs to start with identifying the in-house FA's we want to re-sign and the upcoming contracts we wish to re-new soon. Drafting a QB (instead of signing a FA QB) allows us to do that. Players to re-sign: Hunter Henry, Adrian Philips, Austin Ekeler, Isaac Rochelle, Jaylin Watkins, Derek Watt, and Michael Davis. Contracts soon to re-new: Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram, Keenan Allen, Desmond King, Denzel Perryman, Rayshawn Jenkins. A FA QB contract would overlap all of those contracts. There are many others... I just don't see us extending a lot of them or signing them on the cheap (Okung, Pouncey, Lamp, Tevi, Feeney, Facyson, Justin Jackson, Badgley, Tyrod, Mebane, Thomas Davis, Virgil Green) My preference would be to use #6 to draft an OT and then start looking at QB (round 2-4. It is a process, and I am certain the FO is well into it. There are a number of players you have listed that I suspect do not return, mostly due to the cost/return is a bad ratio. I agree completely that any FA QB will be cost prohibitive, and could quite easily handcuff TT in far too many ways. My preference would be Simmons, but if he is gone, OT Thomas would be awesome. DL Brown would as well.......
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Post by diehardcharge on Feb 10, 2020 12:58:04 GMT -7
I’m confused, Bridgewater had one major injury, and he’s injury prone. Rivers had one major injury as well with his ACL he was never considered as injury prone? Are people that incompetent To think about what injury prone really means? “Someone who is frequently injured” .......
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Post by boltnut on Feb 10, 2020 12:59:55 GMT -7
I think the QB conversation needs to start with identifying the in-house FA's we want to re-sign and the upcoming contracts we wish to re-new soon. Drafting a QB (instead of signing a FA QB) allows us to do that. Players to re-sign: Hunter Henry, Adrian Philips, Austin Ekeler, Isaac Rochelle, Jaylin Watkins, Derek Watt, and Michael Davis. Contracts soon to re-new: Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram, Keenan Allen, Desmond King, Denzel Perryman, Rayshawn Jenkins. A FA QB contract would overlap all of those contracts. There are many others... I just don't see us extending a lot of them or signing them on the cheap (Okung, Pouncey, Lamp, Tevi, Feeney, Facyson, Justin Jackson, Badgley, Tyrod, Mebane, Thomas Davis, Virgil Green) My preference would be to use #6 to draft an OT and then start looking at QB (round 2-4. It is a process, and I am certain the FO is well into it. There are a number of players you have listed that I suspect do not return, mostly due to the cost/return is a bad ratio. I agree completely that any FA QB will be cost prohibitive, and could quite easily handcuff TT in far too many ways. My preference would be Simmons, but if he is gone, OT Thomas would be awesome. DL Brown would as well....... I would love for OT Thomas to be there @#6. No love for OT Wills...? I get Simmons athleticism, but wonder about his instincts. I think teams will run at him in the NFL. I also like some mid-round WILL's, too. Not so much love for OT's outside the 1st round.
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