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Post by woodeye on Mar 23, 2019 11:40:48 GMT -7
Forrest Lamp is tearing us apart But why ? Free Lamps. Lamps Plus quality. Cool dude, just like Cro...
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Post by woodeye on Mar 23, 2019 11:52:16 GMT -7
I want a Vezina. And then an Oscar. An attractive free floor lamp is third.
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Post by moekid on Mar 23, 2019 12:16:33 GMT -7
Forrest Lamp is tearing us apart But why ? Free Lamps. Lamps Plus quality. Cool dude, just like Cro... Cro tore us apart. So did Weddle
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Post by pacstud on Mar 23, 2019 15:17:51 GMT -7
Forrest Lamp is tearing us apart That means he can bring us together. Moe-Pac 2020
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 24, 2019 3:08:47 GMT -7
frozen, just a question. It would be interesting to here your thoughts on this. During your career, were you ever labelled a bust ? If yes, what was that like ? I don't recall ever hearing the word 'bust', but I knew long before my development stalled that I wasn't going to be a success in the NHL as a player. How does that feel you might ask. Disappointing at first, but then it frees you up to more fully enjoy the ride. I have a cousin that played MLB. He called me one day and I said what the hell is going on with your batting average. He told me "Freak", I can't hit them." "The pitching in the majors is levels above minor league and the mexican league I played in." Is this what happened to you ?
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Post by pacstud on Mar 24, 2019 6:45:54 GMT -7
I don't recall ever hearing the word 'bust', but I knew long before my development stalled that I wasn't going to be a success in the NHL as a player. How does that feel you might ask. Disappointing at first, but then it frees you up to more fully enjoy the ride. I have a cousin that played MLB. He called me one day and I said what the hell is going on with your batting average. He told me "Freak", I can't hit them." "The pitching in the majors is levels above minor league and the mexican league I played in." Is this what happened to you ? Levels. Finding your top level is never fun. It is amazing to at least witness that (those) next level(s).
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 24, 2019 7:54:42 GMT -7
I don't recall ever hearing the word 'bust', but I knew long before my development stalled that I wasn't going to be a success in the NHL as a player. How does that feel you might ask. Disappointing at first, but then it frees you up to more fully enjoy the ride. I have a cousin that played MLB. He called me one day and I said what the hell is going on with your batting average. He told me "Freak", I can't hit them." "The pitching in the majors is levels above minor league and the mexican league I played in." Is this what happened to you ? Yes, and no. The straight across from your example would be stopping the puck, which I could do, but reading the play quick enough to put myself in the correct position to stop the puck was lacking. I was fine at the Jr. levels, but the NHL decision making was very fast, and we are talking over 30 years ago. The speed of decisions in today's game makes back then look like slow motion. Clubs recognized this deficiency in goalies, and soon you saw very few goalies that were under 6ft, and many that where 6' 4' or bigger. (consider a 6'7' goalie in the butterfly is only a couple inches shy of post to post) Add in they are much better athletes, with great coaching, and the NHL saw a scoring drop that they are still addressing in the game today. I loved my playing career, and have zero regrets.....it was a blast.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 24, 2019 8:57:42 GMT -7
I have a cousin that played MLB. He called me one day and I said what the hell is going on with your batting average. He told me "Freak", I can't hit them." "The pitching in the majors is levels above minor league and the mexican league I played in." Is this what happened to you ? Yes, and no. The straight across from your example would be stopping the puck, which I could do, but reading the play quick enough to put myself in the correct position to stop the puck was lacking. I was fine at the Jr. levels, but the NHL decision making was very fast, and we are talking over 30 years ago. The speed of decisions in today's game makes back then look like slow motion. Clubs recognized this deficiency in goalies, and soon you saw very few goalies that were under 6ft, and many that where 6' 4' or bigger. (consider a 6'7' goalie in the butterfly is only a couple inches shy of post to post) Add in they are much better athletes, with great coaching, and the NHL saw a scoring drop that they are still addressing in the game today. I loved my playing career, and have zero regrets.....it was a blast. Cool ! Did you really enjoy your years tending goal in Red Deer ?
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Post by ltocbolts on Mar 24, 2019 11:10:14 GMT -7
I have a cousin that played MLB. He called me one day and I said what the hell is going on with your batting average. He told me "Freak", I can't hit them." "The pitching in the majors is levels above minor league and the mexican league I played in." Is this what happened to you ? The sad part is that every H.S. baseball dad looks ahead 2 or even 3 levels like it's nothing. Dad Q: "How do you think he'll do in the Pac12?" Coach A: "Ummm, let's see him do well here, first, eh? See if he can start on Varsity one day?" (MLB pitchers make less "mistakes". Balls in the zone that you like. (Which they know from the reports). Gotta hole in your swing? A weak spot? They will LIVE there.)
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Post by woodeye on Mar 24, 2019 11:49:04 GMT -7
I have a cousin that played MLB. He called me one day and I said what the hell is going on with your batting average. He told me "Freak", I can't hit them." "The pitching in the majors is levels above minor league and the mexican league I played in." Is this what happened to you ? The sad part is that every H.S. baseball dad looks ahead 2 or even 3 levels like it's nothing. Dad Q: "How do you think he'll do in the Pac12?" Coach A: "Ummm, let's see him do well here, first, eh? See if he can start on Varsity one day?" (MLB pitchers make less "mistakes". Balls in the zone that you like. (Which they know from the reports). Gotta hole in your swing? A weak spot? They will LIVE there.) Surami Kai and Ichiro both laugh hysterically.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 24, 2019 16:39:10 GMT -7
I have a cousin that played MLB. He called me one day and I said what the hell is going on with your batting average. He told me "Freak", I can't hit them." "The pitching in the majors is levels above minor league and the mexican league I played in." Is this what happened to you ? Yes, and no. The straight across from your example would be stopping the puck, which I could do, but reading the play quick enough to put myself in the correct position to stop the puck was lacking. I was fine at the Jr. levels, but the NHL decision making was very fast, and we are talking over 30 years ago. The speed of decisions in today's game makes back then look like slow motion. Clubs recognized this deficiency in goalies, and soon you saw very few goalies that were under 6ft, and many that where 6' 4' or bigger. (consider a 6'7' goalie in the butterfly is only a couple inches shy of post to post) Add in they are much better athletes, with great coaching, and the NHL saw a scoring drop that they are still addressing in the game today. I loved my playing career, and have zero regrets.....it was a blast. Thanks for sharing that. It sure gives a little more perspective on draft picks. I've always heard the speed of the game is a hurdle for players. This puts it better perspective.
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Post by joemcrugby on Mar 24, 2019 17:15:31 GMT -7
I have a cousin that played MLB. He called me one day and I said what the hell is going on with your batting average. He told me "Freak", I can't hit them." "The pitching in the majors is levels above minor league and the mexican league I played in." Is this what happened to you ? Yes, and no. The straight across from your example would be stopping the puck, which I could do, but reading the play quick enough to put myself in the correct position to stop the puck was lacking. I was fine at the Jr. levels, but the NHL decision making was very fast, and we are talking over 30 years ago. The speed of decisions in today's game makes back then look like slow motion. Clubs recognized this deficiency in goalies, and soon you saw very few goalies that were under 6ft, and many that where 6' 4' or bigger. (consider a 6'7' goalie in the butterfly is only a couple inches shy of post to post) Add in they are much better athletes, with great coaching, and the NHL saw a scoring drop that they are still addressing in the game today. I loved my playing career, and have zero regrets.....it was a blast. Different level of play, but I had a somewhat similar experience as you did: From 1983-2000, SoCal was filled with many teammates and opponents who represented the USA in multiple World Cups, but I mostly played against them during my career other than club teammates who were on the national team. I regularly played hooker with and against many international rugby players over the course of my career that was mostly based in Long Beach (Cornell & Long Beach State in college, Belmont Shore RFC in club side). OMBAC-Belmont was the biggest rivalry in the US for more than a decade, and my stomach still instinctively tightens up when I head south on the I-5 as I remember the wars that we battled several times a year. I played with the Southern California and Pacific Coast select squads (just below national team) for about a half-dozen years, but never ascended to the international level mainly due to one profound limitation: I simply didn't have enough explosive pace to compete at that level. I had a motor where I could keep churning all game long, was strong in set pieces (lineouts and scrums), could read the game very well and was not hesitant whatsoever about throwing my body around without any concern about my well-being. However, as the modern game evolved a hooker needs to be an extra back row forward in loose play (similar to LB in a football sense), and my slow twitch body did not have the gas that was necessary to play international rugby. I'm now paying the price as my body is slowly starting to break down at age 58 (both knees, both shoulders and my nose / septum are not in good shape, but surprisingly the concussions that I suffered don't appear to be a problem). And like you, I have zero regrets about playing what was for most of my career an amateur sport. Awesome memories and awesome friendships from all around the globe more than make up for the physical residue of my playing career!!
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Post by woodeye on Mar 24, 2019 17:46:53 GMT -7
I have a cousin that played MLB. He called me one day and I said what the hell is going on with your batting average. He told me "Freak", I can't hit them." "The pitching in the majors is levels above minor league and the mexican league I played in." Is this what happened to you ? Yes, and no. The straight across from your example would be stopping the puck, which I could do, but reading the play quick enough to put myself in the correct position to stop the puck was lacking. I was fine at the Jr. levels, but the NHL decision making was very fast, and we are talking over 30 years ago. The speed of decisions in today's game makes back then look like slow motion. Clubs recognized this deficiency in goalies, and soon you saw very few goalies that were under 6ft, and many that where 6' 4' or bigger. (consider a 6'7' goalie in the butterfly is only a couple inches shy of post to post) Add in they are much better athletes, with great coaching, and the NHL saw a scoring drop that they are still addressing in the game today. I loved my playing career, and have zero regrets..... it was a blast. Just a great, great post. Honest and insightful. Entertaining. Thank you. Now frozen, I got you ! Neutral zone trap. Two minutes for embellishment. Was your whole career really, really a blast ? Isn't there something that haunts you ? Why did you take it out on Forrest ? C'mon frozen. I have personal experience and knowledge that you have anger issues. I can testify to that. There is scar tissue. And there is no way you would be employed by Mr. Molson, if you did not have a great deal of vision. You see things. You know things. You are playing us all, aren't you ?
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Post by woodeye on Mar 24, 2019 18:27:37 GMT -7
I don't recall ever hearing the word 'bust', but I knew long before my development stalled that I wasn't going to be a success in the NHL as a player. How does that feel you might ask. Disappointing at first, but then it frees you up to more fully enjoy the ride. No not at all. Thank you for the insight. Do you feel that front office people and fans prevented you from winning any Vezina Trophies ? SNAP. The sound of the trapdoor shutting. No not at all. Thank you for the insight. Do you feel that front office people and fans prevented you from winning any Vezina Trophies ? SNAP. The sound of the trapdoor shutting. Nope, but I never competed for the Vezina, so there is that small aspect. Nothing impacted my development but my own lack of talent. Had all the support possible, given plenty of opportunities, I just wasn't good enough. It is pretty simple..... Just one more small question, and we'll be done here.Lt Columbo
Did you ever compete for the William M. Jennings Trophy ?
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Post by swand on Mar 24, 2019 19:10:39 GMT -7
Disc and McRugby, thanks for sharing. Thoroughly enjoyed hearing about both of your experiences.
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