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Post by headtrip on Feb 17, 2020 7:20:42 GMT -7
Held out TC, Preseason, 3 reg season games, didn't play a 4th, didn't play very well the 12 games he appeared in.
He was too early. We were 2-2 in the 4 he didn't play, 3-9 in the 12 he did play. Came back after 3 when he was due in the 10th. That's called coming back early, and the org. was again, impressed. Let me tell you where you are at here: You can make the argument that Gordon is THE FA running back this offseason. You want to lose that ? Fine. Be careful what you wish for. Gordon is a must keep without Rivers.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 17, 2020 8:04:45 GMT -7
Held out TC, Preseason, 3 reg season games, didn't play a 4th, didn't play very well the 12 games he appeared in.
He was too early. We were 2-2 in the 4 he didn't play, 3-9 in the 12 he did play. Came back after 3 when he was due in the 10th. That's called coming back early, and the org. was again, impressed. Let me tell you where you are at here: You can make the argument that Gordon is THE FA running back this offseason. You want to lose that ? Fine. Be careful what you wish for. Why would Gordon want to come back? Terrible OL, God only knows what at QB, rookie offensive coordinator....... Unless TT over pays, Gordon is long gone.
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 17, 2020 9:24:47 GMT -7
Held out TC, Preseason, 3 reg season games, didn't play a 4th, didn't play very well the 12 games he appeared in.
He was too early. We were 2-2 in the 4 he didn't play, 3-9 in the 12 he did play. Came back after 3 when he was due in the 10th. That's called coming back early, and the org. was again, impressed. Let me tell you where you are at here: You can make the argument that Gordon is THE FA running back this offseason. You want to lose that ? Fine. Be careful what you wish for. Gordon will only be THE FA running back this offseason after all of the other good running backs are signed. |
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 17, 2020 9:25:29 GMT -7
Came back after 3 when he was due in the 10th. That's called coming back early, and the org. was again, impressed. Let me tell you where you are at here: You can make the argument that Gordon is THE FA running back this offseason. You want to lose that ? Fine. Be careful what you wish for. Why would Gordon want to come back? Terrible OL, God only knows what at QB, rookie offensive coordinator....... Unless TT over pays, Gordon is long gone. Meh. He needs to be replaced via the draft anyway. |
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 17, 2020 9:27:09 GMT -7
Came back after 3 when he was due in the 10th. That's called coming back early, and the org. was again, impressed. Let me tell you where you are at here: You can make the argument that Gordon is THE FA running back this offseason. You want to lose that ? Fine. Be careful what you wish for. Gordon is a must keep without Rivers. Why? He’s inconsistent, not great, and it’s not like the Chargers are going to be in the hunt for a while. Save the money. |
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 17, 2020 9:39:23 GMT -7
Gordon is a must keep without Rivers. Why? He’s inconsistent, not great, and it’s not like the Chargers are going to be in the hunt for a while. Save the money. I agree, would not even attempt to sign Gordon. Save the money? Nope......spend it, and a bunch more on acquiring Conklin, Thuney and Scherff.
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 17, 2020 9:40:45 GMT -7
Why? He’s inconsistent, not great, and it’s not like the Chargers are going to be in the hunt for a while. Save the money. I agree, would not even attempt to sign Gordon. Save the money? Nope......spend it, and a bunch more on acquiring Conklin, Thuney and Scherff. Agree. (That’s what I meant by save the money—free up space to build the rest of the team.) |
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Post by headtrip on Feb 17, 2020 9:51:42 GMT -7
Gordon is a must keep without Rivers. Why? He’s inconsistent, not great, and it’s not like the Chargers are going to be in the hunt for a while. Save the money. If you don’t see it you can’t be shown. Also, NOOB!!,!
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 17, 2020 10:26:38 GMT -7
They coached in Portland ? I don’t get it. Winner Post of the Month.
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 17, 2020 10:30:47 GMT -7
I bet Gordo goes to the Rams.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 17, 2020 10:36:20 GMT -7
I bet Gordo goes to the Rams. Todd Gurley AND Gordon ? Fight for LA
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 17, 2020 11:02:29 GMT -7
Do you honestly believe the way the season went, the way the team played, that those stats mean anything ? Football stats are for fantasy players and the dim. LOL! Of course! W-L is meaningless, it's how you play the game! (? duh?  )
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Post by sonorajim on Feb 17, 2020 11:48:01 GMT -7
I think I detect some icy sarcasm. Pretty sure Lynn wants a solid run game, equally sure he wants to pass. Make 'em defend the entire field. The ability to convert short yardage consistently and take the air out with a lead in the closing minutes is something I believe AL would like to have in his pocket but it's only a piece of the picture. Establishing an imposing ground threat opens up the pass.
I think Rivers was a problem with his audibles, so reeling that in was important. If there truly was a 'control' clash between Rivers and Lynn, I understand the FO's decision to move on from Rivers, and there was way more to that decision than just taking HC over player. That acknowledged, I think Lynn is just an average, to even below average HC, and would have moved on from him. All of the 'wants' you have listed won't help a boring, predictable, sloppy HC..... Yea sloppy....just look at how unprepared his team was in so many games, that is on him. Moving on from a franchise QB, even one clashing with the HC, has not made this team better. Welcome to QB hell...... I saw sloppy players. It wasn't typical of Lynn's Chargers. They were guys like King who knows how to play at a very high level and did so in the past for Lynn. I thought it was a case of trying too hard. Rivers included, - who may have been the primary offender. It's the belief among many GMs & owners that it's better to let an aging star go too soon rather than to keep him too long. I know that has been the Chargers operating theory. I agree with moving on from PR. Use that cap on FA OL, other key position(s) as opportunity permits. Keeping PR would have been a stalling tactic that may have avoided QB hell in 2020 but was unlikely to lead to Lombardi heaven. There are NO guarantees.
Give Lynn his mobile QB & ground game with a killer D. See how it goes. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Rivers had his best years as a young QB with LT pounding the rock. That isn't coming back.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Feb 17, 2020 12:02:20 GMT -7
I bet Gordo goes to the Rams. I think it's either Chiefs or Chargers.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 17, 2020 12:05:21 GMT -7
I think Rivers was a problem with his audibles, so reeling that in was important. If there truly was a 'control' clash between Rivers and Lynn, I understand the FO's decision to move on from Rivers, and there was way more to that decision than just taking HC over player. That acknowledged, I think Lynn is just an average, to even below average HC, and would have moved on from him. All of the 'wants' you have listed won't help a boring, predictable, sloppy HC..... Yea sloppy....just look at how unprepared his team was in so many games, that is on him. Moving on from a franchise QB, even one clashing with the HC, has not made this team better. Welcome to QB hell...... I saw sloppy players. It wasn't typical of Lynn's Chargers. They were guys like King who knows how to play at a very high level and did so in the past for Lynn. I thought it was a case of trying too hard. Rivers included, - who may have been the primary offender. It's the belief among many GMs & owners that it's better to let an aging star go too soon rather than to keep him too long. I know that has been the Chargers operating theory. I agree with moving on from PR. Use that cap on FA OL, other key position(s) as opportunity permits. Keeping PR would have been a stalling tactic that may have avoided QB hell in 2020 but was unlikely to lead to Lombardi heaven. There are NO guarantees.
Give Lynn his mobile QB & ground game with a killer D. See how it goes. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Rivers had his best years as a young QB with LT pounding the rock. That isn't coming back.
Blame the players, then exonerate them by declaring their sloppiness was because of too much effort....... sorry, but what a crock. It was a consistent trait of the Lynn run club, being unprepared, unfocused, sloppy play.......resulting in 5-11.
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