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Post by moekid on May 19, 2020 7:38:09 GMT -7
Who are the superstars we’ve had on offense? LT, definitely. Gates in his prime? Yes, but not someone who would take a game over. Rivers? LT. Gates. Bambi. Winslow. Fouts. Jefferson/Joiner combo meal. You went deeper in history. But yeah. Means was at that level for a couple of years. Guys who could take a game over |
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Post by totallybolted on May 19, 2020 12:47:07 GMT -7
LT. Gates. Bambi. Winslow. Fouts. Jefferson/Joiner combo meal. You went deeper in history. But yeah. Means was at that level for a couple of years. Guys who could take a game over Muncie.
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Post by ohioboltfan on May 19, 2020 15:08:40 GMT -7
I like your take here. Its well done. It hasn't truly dawned on me until you posted it. Thinking it through, I believe you are correct. The more I think about the more I don't like it either. It is a very interesting take from AF, no doubt about it. Have there been any clubs that won a championship without any superstar players? Answering the question, I'd consider the most recent Eagles (2017) and Giants (2012) Super Bowl winning teams to lack a superstar player on offense. (Please do not suggest Eli was a superstar! Famous- yes. Good- yes. Peytonesque- not even close!) Maybe also the Baltimore Ravens when they won it in 2012; they had Ray Rice, Joe Flacco and Anquan Boldin... Flacco is the same as Eli (above average but not a superstar) and Ray Rice soon became infamous but at this time was he a superstar RB? Maybe not. I've always loved Anquan Boldin's game, but was he a superstar or more blue collar over achiever? I'm not making a case that we don't need superstars on offense- I'd love to have eleven superstars on offense and eleven more on defense! But fortunately it can be done. #NeverStoppedHatingSheli
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Post by frozendisc on May 19, 2020 18:15:10 GMT -7
It is a very interesting take from AF, no doubt about it. Have there been any clubs that won a championship without any superstar players? Answering the question, I'd consider the most recent Eagles (2017) and Giants (2012) Super Bowl winning teams to lack a superstar player on offense. (Please do not suggest Eli was a superstar! Famous- yes. Good- yes. Peytonesque- not even close!) Maybe also the Baltimore Ravens when they won it in 2012; they had Ray Rice, Joe Flacco and Anquan Boldin... Flacco is the same as Eli (above average but not a superstar) and Ray Rice soon became infamous but at this time was he a superstar RB? Maybe not. I've always loved Anquan Boldin's game, but was he a superstar or more blue collar over achiever? I'm not making a case that we don't need superstars on offense- I'd love to have eleven superstars on offense and eleven more on defense! But fortunately it can be done. #NeverStoppedHatingSheli I was thinking the Blues........
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Post by chargerfreak on May 20, 2020 3:09:10 GMT -7
You went deeper in history. But yeah. Means was at that level for a couple of years. Guys who could take a game over Muncie. I thought of him, but Superstar ? Fumbled a lot. Somebody on here loved Wes Chandler. I think its moekid.
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Post by afboltfan on May 20, 2020 6:04:16 GMT -7
It is a very interesting take from AF, no doubt about it. Have there been any clubs that won a championship without any superstar players? Answering the question, I'd consider the most recent Eagles (2017) and Giants (2012) Super Bowl winning teams to lack a superstar player on offense. (Please do not suggest Eli was a superstar! Famous- yes. Good- yes. Peytonesque- not even close!) Maybe also the Baltimore Ravens when they won it in 2012; they had Ray Rice, Joe Flacco and Anquan Boldin... Flacco is the same as Eli (above average but not a superstar) and Ray Rice soon became infamous but at this time was he a superstar RB? Maybe not. I've always loved Anquan Boldin's game, but was he a superstar or more blue collar over achiever? I'm not making a case that we don't need superstars on offense- I'd love to have eleven superstars on offense and eleven more on defense! But fortunately it can be done. #NeverStoppedHatingSheli 2 great examples! I'd say the common denominator there is coaching. I'm not going to bash Lynn like some here do, but I'm not that confident in him or the OC just yet...
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Post by chargerfreak on May 20, 2020 6:59:37 GMT -7
It is a very interesting take from AF, no doubt about it. Have there been any clubs that won a championship without any superstar players? Answering the question, I'd consider the most recent Eagles (2017) and Giants (2012) Super Bowl winning teams to lack a superstar player on offense. (Please do not suggest Eli was a superstar! Famous- yes. Good- yes. Peytonesque- not even close!) Maybe also the Baltimore Ravens when they won it in 2012; they had Ray Rice, Joe Flacco and Anquan Boldin... Flacco is the same as Eli (above average but not a superstar) and Ray Rice soon became infamous but at this time was he a superstar RB? Maybe not. I've always loved Anquan Boldin's game, but was he a superstar or more blue collar over achiever? I'm not making a case that we don't need superstars on offense- I'd love to have eleven superstars on offense and eleven more on defense! But fortunately it can be done. #NeverStoppedHatingSheli Nick Foles is not A superstar. But for 2017 he was THEIR superstar.
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Post by totallybolted on May 20, 2020 7:05:38 GMT -7
I thought of him, but Superstar ? Fumbled a lot. Somebody on here loved Wes Chandler. I think its moekid. That fair. I was only looking at it from the perspective of taking over a game. The man was all diesel running down hill. Though i wonder if he was actually running on another fuel....
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Post by chargerfreak on May 20, 2020 7:11:36 GMT -7
I thought of him, but Superstar ? Fumbled a lot. Somebody on here loved Wes Chandler. I think its moekid. That fair. I was only looking at it from the perspective of taking over a game. The man was all diesel running down hill. Though i wonder if he was actually running on another fuel....
I would give our current RB group all the alternative fuels on planet earth.
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Post by sonorajim on May 20, 2020 10:01:58 GMT -7
That fair. I was only looking at it from the perspective of taking over a game. The man was all diesel running down hill. Though i wonder if he was actually running on another fuel....
I would give our current RB group all the alternative fuels on planet earth. Drivin' that train.......
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Post by moekid on May 20, 2020 16:16:49 GMT -7
I thought of him, but Superstar ? Fumbled a lot. Somebody on here loved Wes Chandler. I think its moekid. I got nothin but love for Wes. He softened the blow of losing JJ whom I really loved |
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Post by totallybolted on May 21, 2020 6:03:47 GMT -7
That fair. I was only looking at it from the perspective of taking over a game. The man was all diesel running down hill. Though i wonder if he was actually running on another fuel....
I would give our current RB group all the alternative fuels on planet earth. Would that help the left side of the line?
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Post by afboltfan on May 21, 2020 14:12:20 GMT -7
Reported Dak Prescott offered 175 million for 5 years... Highest paid QB in history if he takes it. Jerry Jones is an idiot... KC is having chest pains right now... Mahomes about to ask for even more.
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Post by joemcrugby on May 21, 2020 15:11:27 GMT -7
Reported Dak Prescott offered 175 million for 5 years... Highest paid QB in history if he takes it. Jerry Jones is an idiot... KC is having chest pains right now... Mahomes about to ask for even more. Dak turned it down. He wants $45 million / season. Time to roll with Dalton if he holds out and won’t sign the franchise tag. The cap is supposed to explode in 2021 due to new network deals that will be negotiated over the next six months now that the new CBA deal has been adopted. That’s one reason why Bosa isn’t ready to sign a deal in 2020.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 22, 2020 2:54:50 GMT -7
Reported Dak Prescott offered 175 million for 5 years... Highest paid QB in history if he takes it. Jerry Jones is an idiot... KC is having chest pains right now... Mahomes about to ask for even more. Jerrah always pays his stars. Always has. Right, wrong, up, down, always has.
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