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Post by afboltfan on Mar 31, 2020 13:44:46 GMT -7
It seldom takes an entire paragraph to say almost nothing. It will never take anyone on here to tell me what to post. Moving on, its actually a pretty in-depth article on Herbert if you check it out. This jumped out at me... With our history of oline problems, this seems to exasperate the problem above. We likely cannot give Herbert the extra time to find open receivers, Allen and Williams are good but thats alot to ask for. Can Stedman create the best offensive scheme to fit Herbert? Who knows... I dunno man... I'd pass.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 31, 2020 13:47:56 GMT -7
It will never take anyone on here to tell me what to post. Moving on, its actually a pretty in-depth article on Herbert if you check it out. This jumped out at me... With our history of oline problems, this seems to exasperate the problem above. We likely cannot give Herbert the extra time to find open receivers, Allen and Williams are good but thats alot to ask for. Can Stedman create the best offensive scheme to fit Herbert? Who knows... I dunno man... I'd pass. Repeatedly zeroing in on one guy will get you killed in the NFL. A safety will read your eyes all day long if you let them. He would have to get better at progression, no doubt.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 31, 2020 14:51:25 GMT -7
I can sum up Herbert for you, no article necessary- 2nd day talent. I can assure you on 4/23/2020 you will be proven wrong, as Herbert will be viewed as 1st day talent, and be drafted accordingly so.
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Post by headtrip on Mar 31, 2020 14:59:31 GMT -7
I can sum up Herbert for you, no article necessary- 2nd day talent. I can assure you on 4/23/2020 you will be proven wrong, as Herbert will be viewed as 1st day talent, and be drafted accordingly so. 2nd day talents at QB routinely get drafted in the top 10. Like Freak has been telling you all along, position value is king.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 31, 2020 15:41:43 GMT -7
It will never take anyone on here to tell me what to post. Moving on, its actually a pretty in-depth article on Herbert if you check it out. This jumped out at me... With our history of oline problems, this seems to exasperate the problem above. We likely cannot give Herbert the extra time to find open receivers, Allen and Williams are good but thats alot to ask for. Can Stedman create the best offensive scheme to fit Herbert? Who knows... I dunno man... I'd pass. Can Taylor who doesn't trust his own progressions teach someone to actually read them?
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 31, 2020 16:33:32 GMT -7
I can assure you on 4/23/2020 you will be proven wrong, as Herbert will be viewed as 1st day talent, and be drafted accordingly so. 2nd day talents at QB routinely get drafted in the top 10. Like Freak has been telling you all along, position value is king. I seriously doubt any GM would use a 1st rd pick on a player they do not believe in......throw of the dice picks are found at the end, not the beginning.
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Post by headtrip on Mar 31, 2020 16:49:36 GMT -7
2nd day talents at QB routinely get drafted in the top 10. Like Freak has been telling you all along, position value is king. I seriously doubt any GM would use a 1st rd pick on a player they do not believe in......throw of the dice picks are found at the end, not the beginning. Every pick is a throw of the dice and teams take on greater risk for greater reward. A good QB is worth more than the best OG.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 31, 2020 17:34:08 GMT -7
I seriously doubt any GM would use a 1st rd pick on a player they do not believe in......throw of the dice picks are found at the end, not the beginning. Every pick is a throw of the dice and teams take on greater risk for greater reward. A good QB is worth more than the best OG. It is not as you say, but keep believing......
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Post by headtrip on Mar 31, 2020 17:40:05 GMT -7
Every pick is a throw of the dice and teams take on greater risk for greater reward. A good QB is worth more than the best OG. It is not as you say, but keep believing...... Funny, my first thought was that you are completely out of your depth.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 31, 2020 17:54:03 GMT -7
It is not as you say, but keep believing...... Funny, my first thought was that you are completely out of your depth. Clearly.........
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Post by afboltfan on Mar 31, 2020 18:20:16 GMT -7
I can assure you on 4/23/2020 you will be proven wrong, as Herbert will be viewed as 1st day talent, and be drafted accordingly so. 2nd day talents at QB routinely get drafted in the top 10. Like Freak has been telling you all along, position value is king. EJ Manuel...
While I don't think Herbert is as bad as EJ Manuel or Blake Bortles, he very well could be. I give TT a 50/50 chance of getting this right...
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Post by headtrip on Mar 31, 2020 19:33:11 GMT -7
2nd day talents at QB routinely get drafted in the top 10. Like Freak has been telling you all along, position value is king. EJ Manuel...
While I don't think Herbert is as bad as EJ Manuel or Blake Bortles, he very well could be. I give TT a 50/50 chance of getting this right...
Bortles is a good comparison. All the physical ability in the world, not a lot of natural understanding of how to play the position. 50/50 sounds about right.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 1, 2020 3:28:01 GMT -7
This jumped out at me... With our history of oline problems, this seems to exasperate the problem above. We likely cannot give Herbert the extra time to find open receivers, Allen and Williams are good but thats alot to ask for. Can Stedman create the best offensive scheme to fit Herbert? Who knows... I dunno man... I'd pass. Can Taylor who doesn't trust his own progressions teach someone to actually read them? OC/ QB Coach.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 1, 2020 3:47:46 GMT -7
Every pick is a throw of the dice and teams take on greater risk for greater reward. A good QB is worth more than the best OG. It is not as you say, but keep believing...... Its exactly as he says. QB's are NUMBER 1, Guards are roughly 7th ? I personally might put them 9th or 10th ? A great example is you have Ruiz-Center as your 2nd Round pick. (Centers and Guards are pretty much lumped together by the way.) You believe he is the best Center in the draft, you are not alone, big guy, Big School Billy out of Michigan. YET, he is projected in the 2nd Round. Position value is why. They always fall in the draft too. Always. (KC lost Wisnewski in free agency. Some think they will take Ruiz as the last pick of the first round.)
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 1, 2020 5:48:01 GMT -7
It is not as you say, but keep believing...... Its exactly as he says. QB's are NUMBER 1, Guards are roughly 7th ? I personally might put them 9th or 10th ? A great example is you have Ruiz-Center as your 2nd Round pick. (Centers and Guards are pretty much lumped together by the way.) You believe he is the best Center in the draft, you are not alone, big guy, Big School Billy out of Michigan. YET, he is projected in the 2nd Round. Position value is why. They always fall in the draft too. Always. (KC lost Wisnewski in free agency. Some think they will take Ruiz as the last pick of the first round.) Ruiz will go 1st rd......much to the chagrin of my mock. The rest of your post simply reinforces your own beliefs.....and I just say keep believing.
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