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Post by moekid on Apr 25, 2020 19:03:23 GMT -7
They’ll add a veteran OT later
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Post by jackraven on Apr 25, 2020 19:28:35 GMT -7
Turning the page now, because I am a homer- Wow, how did we steal the best offensive player AND the best defensive player in this draft??? After further review- and even being disappointed in the predraft possibilities that actually became real but we still chose not to do things my way- I am glad for our first round selections and hope they give the Chargers the missing pieces to win Super Bowls. BEST?!? Let's say SOLID. I will agree that both picks have the potential to become the "best" mainly due to the supporting cast around them. Only time will reveal "best" of this draft class. My Day 1 two cents: I'll give TT a solid B grade for Round 1. Haters going to hate, and Freaks are going to gloat, but the Herbert pick isn't that bad. I for one am happy TT didn't panic and trade up for a QB. As I said in other posts, let the draft come to us with the #6 pick. Yes, I like so many of you wanted Simmons if he was there, but I am not on the Bolts payroll and couldn't figure out how to hack into the Commissioner's computer to change the pick in time. Sorry about that Frozen. As a homer, here's what I like about Herbert pick. TT didn't panic and trade up. Herbert isn't damaged goods. He has an arm, he is big enough to shake defenders off, he is capable of mobility and the best part is he has an opportunity to learn the NFL way BEFORE getting tossed the wolves. Think about how so many 1st round QBs get hammered way too soon starting day 1 and never recover. The Bolts have a decent supporting cast to help Herbert's development over time. Now on to Murray. Initially was not happy giving up our 3rd to move up to get him, but who is to say that our 3rd round pick would have amounted to anything based on Bolt history. How many times have we missed on our 2nd and 3rd round picks?!? Murray could be something special AND we haven't had real LB quality in a very long time. When was the last time we had a Billy Ray Smith or dare I say a player who could become a version of Seau. Say what?!? That's just crazy talk. Murray will help our defense THIS YEAR. Keeping my eye out for TT to find a way to move back into the 3rd Round and perhaps bring us a TE or WR like Laviska Shenault who can help this year. Didn't see that coming... Oh...one final note, will one of you Mods please go make an "Appreciate Me for My Greatness" thread for Freak so he can stop begging for attention.  Giving up the 3rd was the only way that you guys were getting Murray. EDC (our GM Eric DaCosta) would probably have picked Murray if Patrick Queen wasn't available or someone else would have drafted him.
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Post by woodeye on Apr 25, 2020 20:29:00 GMT -7
BEST?!? Let's say SOLID. I will agree that both picks have the potential to become the "best" mainly due to the supporting cast around them. Only time will reveal "best" of this draft class. My Day 1 two cents: I'll give TT a solid B grade for Round 1. Haters going to hate, and Freaks are going to gloat, but the Herbert pick isn't that bad. I for one am happy TT didn't panic and trade up for a QB. As I said in other posts, let the draft come to us with the #6 pick. Yes, I like so many of you wanted Simmons if he was there, but I am not on the Bolts payroll and couldn't figure out how to hack into the Commissioner's computer to change the pick in time. Sorry about that Frozen. As a homer, here's what I like about Herbert pick. TT didn't panic and trade up. Herbert isn't damaged goods. He has an arm, he is big enough to shake defenders off, he is capable of mobility and the best part is he has an opportunity to learn the NFL way BEFORE getting tossed the wolves. Think about how so many 1st round QBs get hammered way too soon starting day 1 and never recover. The Bolts have a decent supporting cast to help Herbert's development over time. Now on to Murray. Initially was not happy giving up our 3rd to move up to get him, but who is to say that our 3rd round pick would have amounted to anything based on Bolt history. How many times have we missed on our 2nd and 3rd round picks?!? Murray could be something special AND we haven't had real LB quality in a very long time. When was the last time we had a Billy Ray Smith or dare I say a player who could become a version of Seau. Say what?!? That's just crazy talk. Murray will help our defense THIS YEAR. Keeping my eye out for TT to find a way to move back into the 3rd Round and perhaps bring us a TE or WR like Laviska Shenault who can help this year. Didn't see that coming... Oh...one final note, will one of you Mods please go make an "Appreciate Me for My Greatness" thread for Freak so he can stop begging for attention. Giving up the 3rd was the only way that you guys were getting Murray. EDC (our GM Eric DaCosta) would probably have picked Murray if Patrick Queen wasn't available or someone else would have drafted him. So, Justin Tucker made a Home Depot run ?
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Post by afboltfan on Apr 26, 2020 1:13:23 GMT -7
BEST?!? Let's say SOLID. I will agree that both picks have the potential to become the "best" mainly due to the supporting cast around them. Only time will reveal "best" of this draft class. My Day 1 two cents: I'll give TT a solid B grade for Round 1. Haters going to hate, and Freaks are going to gloat, but the Herbert pick isn't that bad. I for one am happy TT didn't panic and trade up for a QB. As I said in other posts, let the draft come to us with the #6 pick. Yes, I like so many of you wanted Simmons if he was there, but I am not on the Bolts payroll and couldn't figure out how to hack into the Commissioner's computer to change the pick in time. Sorry about that Frozen. As a homer, here's what I like about Herbert pick. TT didn't panic and trade up. Herbert isn't damaged goods. He has an arm, he is big enough to shake defenders off, he is capable of mobility and the best part is he has an opportunity to learn the NFL way BEFORE getting tossed the wolves. Think about how so many 1st round QBs get hammered way too soon starting day 1 and never recover. The Bolts have a decent supporting cast to help Herbert's development over time. Now on to Murray. Initially was not happy giving up our 3rd to move up to get him, but who is to say that our 3rd round pick would have amounted to anything based on Bolt history. How many times have we missed on our 2nd and 3rd round picks?!? Murray could be something special AND we haven't had real LB quality in a very long time. When was the last time we had a Billy Ray Smith or dare I say a player who could become a version of Seau. Say what?!? That's just crazy talk. Murray will help our defense THIS YEAR. Keeping my eye out for TT to find a way to move back into the 3rd Round and perhaps bring us a TE or WR like Laviska Shenault who can help this year. Didn't see that coming... Oh...one final note, will one of you Mods please go make an "Appreciate Me for My Greatness" thread for Freak so he can stop begging for attention. Giving up the 3rd was the only way that you guys were getting Murray. EDC (our GM Eric DaCosta) would probably have picked Murray if Patrick Queen wasn't available or someone else would have drafted him. That is for certain... Moving up that many spots is going to cost you.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 26, 2020 3:03:18 GMT -7
omg. I don't think I can bear UDFA's, let alone Small School Sammy UDFA's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, the Horror of it all.
(ANOTHER draft year where Telesco and I dodged small schools. We know boys, trust me we know. React if you want.)
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 26, 2020 3:07:53 GMT -7
BEST?!? Let's say SOLID. I will agree that both picks have the potential to become the "best" mainly due to the supporting cast around them. Only time will reveal "best" of this draft class. My Day 1 two cents: I'll give TT a solid B grade for Round 1. Haters going to hate, and Freaks are going to gloat, but the Herbert pick isn't that bad. I for one am happy TT didn't panic and trade up for a QB. As I said in other posts, let the draft come to us with the #6 pick. Yes, I like so many of you wanted Simmons if he was there, but I am not on the Bolts payroll and couldn't figure out how to hack into the Commissioner's computer to change the pick in time. Sorry about that Frozen. As a homer, here's what I like about Herbert pick. TT didn't panic and trade up. Herbert isn't damaged goods. He has an arm, he is big enough to shake defenders off, he is capable of mobility and the best part is he has an opportunity to learn the NFL way BEFORE getting tossed the wolves. Think about how so many 1st round QBs get hammered way too soon starting day 1 and never recover. The Bolts have a decent supporting cast to help Herbert's development over time. Now on to Murray. Initially was not happy giving up our 3rd to move up to get him, but who is to say that our 3rd round pick would have amounted to anything based on Bolt history. How many times have we missed on our 2nd and 3rd round picks?!? Murray could be something special AND we haven't had real LB quality in a very long time. When was the last time we had a Billy Ray Smith or dare I say a player who could become a version of Seau. Say what?!? That's just crazy talk. Murray will help our defense THIS YEAR. Keeping my eye out for TT to find a way to move back into the 3rd Round and perhaps bring us a TE or WR like Laviska Shenault who can help this year. Didn't see that coming... Oh...one final note, will one of you Mods please go make an "Appreciate Me for My Greatness" thread for Freak so he can stop begging for attention. Giving up the 3rd was the only way that you guys were getting Murray. EDC (our GM Eric DaCosta) would probably have picked Murray if Patrick Queen wasn't available or someone else would have drafted him. Oh yeah. There was no way in hell Murray was going to be there 6 picks deep in the 2nd round. I guarantee when he fell out of the top 15, the Chargers staff started freaking out. They just couldn't stand it anymore. Really proud that they WENT AND GOT THEIR GUY. He is the same as Herbert. Time will tell if they were good picks. But they were the RIGHT picks at the time.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 26, 2020 3:27:19 GMT -7
I really really really hope that Jason Peters on a one-year rental is in TT's plan in the days following the draft. I can't imagine them putting all of their eggs in the Pipkins / Williams / Lamp basket. If they stand pat and it doesn't work out, we'll be talking about a new coach and GM for 2021. Its sad that we have to look at him this late in his career. I think through most of his body of work, he was the best LT in the NFL. A monster Winnebago sized man, damn could he play LT like a Boss. I'm with you though. Half of Peters is more than we have now. You get 8-9 games out of him, its a win. I seriously don't know if Pipkins is worthy to carry Peters luggage into training camp. I DO know the other guys can throw themselves face down in the grass and worship him though. Massive respect for his career.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 26, 2020 11:33:48 GMT -7
I really really really hope that Jason Peters on a one-year rental is in TT's plan in the days following the draft. I can't imagine them putting all of their eggs in the Pipkins / Williams / Lamp basket. If they stand pat and it doesn't work out, we'll be talking about a new coach and GM for 2021. Its sad that we have to look at him this late in his career. I think through most of his body of work, he was the best LT in the NFL. A monster Winnebago sized man, damn could he play LT like a Boss. I'm with you though. Half of Peters is more than we have now. You get 8-9 games out of him, its a win. I seriously don't know if Pipkins is worthy to carry Peters luggage into training camp. I DO know the other guys can throw themselves face down in the grass and worship him though. Massive respect for his career. I would have drafted: Simmons Yetur Gross-Matos Josh Jones Bolts would not be wondering about LOT........ TT rolled the dice on Herbert, big time. Then doubled down by trading really needed picks for Murray.
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Post by woodeye on Apr 26, 2020 12:04:20 GMT -7
Giving up the 3rd was the only way that you guys were getting Murray. EDC (our GM Eric DaCosta) would probably have picked Murray if Patrick Queen wasn't available or someone else would have drafted him. So, Justin Tucker made a Home Depot run ?
There was a thunderstorm in Baltimore, resulting in a power outage. Day three of the NFL Draft almost did not happen. Tucker scored a portable generator, and the show went on.
Also, under intense interrogation by reporter Thomas T, Telesco admitted to a technucal glitch @ pick #220. Luckily plan B worked and KJ, the steal of the draft is a Bolt.
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Post by afboltfan on Apr 26, 2020 12:16:02 GMT -7
So, Justin Tucker made a Home Depot run ?
There was a thunderstorm in Baltimore, resulting in a power outage. Day three of the NFL Draft almost did not happen. Tucker scored a portable generator, and the show went on.
Also, under intense interrogation by reporter Thomas T, Telesco admitted to a technucal glitch @ pick #220. Luckily plan B worked and KJ, the steal of the draft is a Bolt. Thats crazy!!
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Post by joemcrugby on Apr 26, 2020 12:32:39 GMT -7
Its sad that we have to look at him this late in his career. I think through most of his body of work, he was the best LT in the NFL. A monster Winnebago sized man, damn could he play LT like a Boss. I'm with you though. Half of Peters is more than we have now. You get 8-9 games out of him, its a win. I seriously don't know if Pipkins is worthy to carry Peters luggage into training camp. I DO know the other guys can throw themselves face down in the grass and worship him though. Massive respect for his career. I would have drafted: Simmons Yetur Gross-Matos Josh Jones Bolts would not be wondering about LOT........ TT rolled the dice on Herbert, big time. Then doubled down by trading really needed picks for Murray. A 3rd round pick is all that he really "gave up" to move up 14 slots, and the trade cost aligns with the draft value chart. Herbert was a roll of the dice (as are many highly drafted QB's), but I don't see the trade-up to obtain Murray as being similar.
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Post by boltnut on Apr 26, 2020 12:40:44 GMT -7
No, you can't. The OL is only as strong as your weakest link. NFL DC's will pick on Pip all year long. You can help with TE or RB. But then you can't use them in the pattern. Might as well just send 10 out on the field... not hard to defend. They signed UDFA Roberts. An OT. Don’t worry so much 
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 26, 2020 19:57:32 GMT -7
I would have drafted: Simmons Yetur Gross-Matos Josh Jones Bolts would not be wondering about LOT........ TT rolled the dice on Herbert, big time. Then doubled down by trading really needed picks for Murray. A 3rd round pick is all that he really "gave up" to move up 14 slots, and the trade cost aligns with the draft value chart. Herbert was a roll of the dice (as are many highly drafted QB's), but I don't see the trade-up to obtain Murray as being similar. It isn't about what they gave up, rather what they could have had. TT rolled the dice that Herbert is the QB answer, if he isn't, Murray is the only solid pick. Sorry, but I will take: Simmons Yetur Gross-Matos Josh Jones Two home runs and a triple.......
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 27, 2020 3:47:15 GMT -7
Its sad that we have to look at him this late in his career. I think through most of his body of work, he was the best LT in the NFL. A monster Winnebago sized man, damn could he play LT like a Boss. I'm with you though. Half of Peters is more than we have now. You get 8-9 games out of him, its a win. I seriously don't know if Pipkins is worthy to carry Peters luggage into training camp. I DO know the other guys can throw themselves face down in the grass and worship him though. Massive respect for his career. I would have drafted: Simmons Yetur Gross-Matos Josh Jones Bolts would not be wondering about LOT........ TT rolled the dice on Herbert, big time. Then doubled down by trading really needed picks for Murray. Would you quit flip flopping on Murray. Either like our new rookie, or hate him. Your fear of getting something wrong turns my stomach. Look at me. Bold as hell with my views. Hate him love him something. Quit hedging your bets. The fear of being wrong just drips off of you. If you get it wrong, like the Chargers selecting Simmons which was dead wrong BTW, no one is going to take your birthday away for Pete's sake.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 27, 2020 6:15:10 GMT -7
I would have drafted: Simmons Yetur Gross-Matos Josh Jones Bolts would not be wondering about LOT........ TT rolled the dice on Herbert, big time. Then doubled down by trading really needed picks for Murray.Would you quit flip flopping on Murray. Either like our new rookie, or hate him. Your fear of getting something wrong turns my stomach. Look at me. Bold as hell with my views. Hate him love him something. Quit hedging your bets. The fear of being wrong just drips off of you. If you get it wrong, like the Chargers selecting Simmons which was dead wrong BTW, no one is going to take your birthday away for Pete's sake. I like Murray, and believe he will be a solid LB for the club. My complaint is the cost of picks needed to obtain Murray. Not cost in that the trade was inequitable, rather the poor use of that draft capital. The Bolts simply needed that 3rd rd pick to obtain an OT, in my view. If Herbert develops into a franchise QB, then the transition from one franchise QB to the next will be considered genius......if he doesn't......
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