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Post by frozendisc on Jul 15, 2020 6:42:44 GMT -7
That is funny actually... I'm fine with him being just "good", it will just suck because he will see himself as something else and then we have another MG situation. I can see that happening. Especially with 2 D-lineman just getting big contracts. Garrett's is the biggest contract ever given any defensive player, and he is smack dab playing exactly where Bosa plays. So does TT trade Bosa to a club that is likely to have a top ten first round pick? Is Bosa even worth that return?
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Post by totallybolted on Jul 15, 2020 6:49:50 GMT -7
I can see that happening. Especially with 2 D-lineman just getting big contracts. Garrett's is the biggest contract ever given any defensive player, and he is smack dab playing exactly where Bosa plays. So does TT trade Bosa to a club that is likely to have a top ten first round pick? Is Bosa even worth that return? to Bosa..., yes
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 15, 2020 7:39:19 GMT -7
I can see that happening. Especially with 2 D-lineman just getting big contracts. Garrett's is the biggest contract ever given any defensive player, and he is smack dab playing exactly where Bosa plays. So does TT trade Bosa to a club that is likely to have a top ten first round pick? Is Bosa even worth that return? I have a guess, and a why. My guess is the Chargers will get it worked out with Bosa. Why ? Because we have a shiny new Rookie QB Contract. That's why.
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 15, 2020 7:55:10 GMT -7
Bosa will be worth it to me if he can stay consistent... Just play at the level you earned after getting paid and I'm happy.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 15, 2020 8:33:04 GMT -7
So does TT trade Bosa to a club that is likely to have a top ten first round pick? Is Bosa even worth that return? I have a guess, and a why. My guess is the Chargers will get it worked out with Bosa. Why ? Because we have a shiny new Rookie QB Contract. That's why. So resigning Bosa is about affordability versus value or return on cost? Herbert's contract is cheap, but the Bolts' entire expenditure on the QB's is as well......
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 15, 2020 8:35:01 GMT -7
I have a guess, and a why. My guess is the Chargers will get it worked out with Bosa. Why ? Because we have a shiny new Rookie QB Contract. That's why. So resigning Bosa is about affordability versus value or return on cost? Herbert's contract is cheap, but the Bolts' entire expenditure on the QB's is as well...... and..........that free's up money for other players. In Chargerland, its about keeping your nose clean. TT gives contracts to guys that he drafted, and stay good boys. Bosa checks the boxes, and we have the cheap QB contracts.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 19, 2020 18:42:00 GMT -7
So resigning Bosa is about affordability versus value or return on cost? Herbert's contract is cheap, but the Bolts' entire expenditure on the QB's is as well...... and..........that free's up money for other players. In Chargerland, its about keeping your nose clean. TT gives contracts to guys that he drafted, and stay good boys. Bosa checks the boxes, and we have the cheap QB contracts. I just get the feeling Bosa will want insane money, and just like MG, the stats do not support it. Trade him while the value is there......if the value is there in trade.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 20, 2020 1:34:11 GMT -7
and..........that free's up money for other players. In Chargerland, its about keeping your nose clean. TT gives contracts to guys that he drafted, and stay good boys. Bosa checks the boxes, and we have the cheap QB contracts. I just get the feeling Bosa will want insane money, and just like MG, the stats do not support it. Trade him while the value is there......if the value is there in trade. What is your value for him. This gets sucky right now. Teams know they are inheriting his big contract, and it has to be negotiated. If you are correct and he wants insane money, what kind of offer do you think you will get for him. Not much if any.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 20, 2020 7:35:31 GMT -7
I just get the feeling Bosa will want insane money, and just like MG, the stats do not support it. Trade him while the value is there......if the value is there in trade. What is your value for him. This gets sucky right now. Teams know they are inheriting his big contract, and it has to be negotiated. If you are correct and he wants insane money, what kind of offer do you think you will get for him. Not much if any. What do I know about his value? To me it is about two things, addressing the talent loss, and avoiding the disruption of acrimonious negotiations. To answer your question, I would take a 1st rd pick from a club that 'should' be drafting middle of the round, and a 3rd rd pick.....so a 1st and a 3rd gets it done. I would not allow interaction from a possible trading partner and Bosa's agent. The trade is you get Bosa for his final year, and clearly have the ability to negotiate an extension at any point you choose. You also have all the tagging rights found under the CBA. Let me say none of this happens until I have concluded after discussions with Bosa's agent that it is unlikely I can get him signed at a cost I find acceptable. I would inform the agent of my thoughts, and that the club will be entertaining trade offers. I want the player hearing it first, not through the media, Bosa deserves that respect. Barring a trade, Bosa is a member of the club, and all events transpiring over the next season would certainly impact any continued negotiations, both in the positive and the negative. Then I would put it out in the media, essentially saying I did not think resigning was going to happen, so trading is a possibility. See what clubs offer.....might be as you say, not much. Then we just go down the tag route.......
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Post by afboltfan on Jul 20, 2020 8:15:08 GMT -7
Does anybody see Bosa as long term investment? Does Bosa have the longevity at his current skill level? In terms of longevity, is he our JJ Watt or Clay Mathews? I honestly don't... I don't know why, I just do not.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 20, 2020 9:03:10 GMT -7
Does anybody see Bosa as long term investment? Does Bosa have the longevity at his current skill level? In terms of longevity, is he our JJ Watt or Clay Mathews? I honestly don't... I don't know why, I just do not. You don't know why because his stats have not lived up to the hype.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 20, 2020 9:05:47 GMT -7
What is your value for him. This gets sucky right now. Teams know they are inheriting his big contract, and it has to be negotiated. If you are correct and he wants insane money, what kind of offer do you think you will get for him. Not much if any. What do I know about his value? To me it is about two things, addressing the talent loss, and avoiding the disruption of acrimonious negotiations. To answer your question, I would take a 1st rd pick from a club that 'should' be drafting middle of the round, and a 3rd rd pick.....so a 1st and a 3rd gets it done. I would not allow interaction from a possible trading partner and Bosa's agent. The trade is you get Bosa for his final year, and clearly have the ability to negotiate an extension at any point you choose. You also have all the tagging rights found under the CBA. Let me say none of this happens until I have concluded after discussions with Bosa's agent that it is unlikely I can get him signed at a cost I find acceptable. I would inform the agent of my thoughts, and that the club will be entertaining trade offers. I want the player hearing it first, not through the media, Bosa deserves that respect. Barring a trade, Bosa is a member of the club, and all events transpiring over the next season would certainly impact any continued negotiations, both in the positive and the negative. Then I would put it out in the media, essentially saying I did not think resigning was going to happen, so trading is a possibility. See what clubs offer.....might be as you say, not much. Then we just go down the tag route....... I stopped reading when you told me to give you a 1st and a 3rd, and that i was on my own for negotiating 125 million dollars with his ass agent. You might get the 3rd.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 20, 2020 9:36:58 GMT -7
Joe McRugby is a big Bosa fan. So you guys are in trouble when he gets here. Not me. You guys.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 20, 2020 13:52:12 GMT -7
What do I know about his value? To me it is about two things, addressing the talent loss, and avoiding the disruption of acrimonious negotiations. To answer your question, I would take a 1st rd pick from a club that 'should' be drafting middle of the round, and a 3rd rd pick.....so a 1st and a 3rd gets it done. I would not allow interaction from a possible trading partner and Bosa's agent. The trade is you get Bosa for his final year, and clearly have the ability to negotiate an extension at any point you choose. You also have all the tagging rights found under the CBA. Let me say none of this happens until I have concluded after discussions with Bosa's agent that it is unlikely I can get him signed at a cost I find acceptable. I would inform the agent of my thoughts, and that the club will be entertaining trade offers. I want the player hearing it first, not through the media, Bosa deserves that respect. Barring a trade, Bosa is a member of the club, and all events transpiring over the next season would certainly impact any continued negotiations, both in the positive and the negative. Then I would put it out in the media, essentially saying I did not think resigning was going to happen, so trading is a possibility. See what clubs offer.....might be as you say, not much. Then we just go down the tag route....... I stopped reading when you told me to give you a 1st and a 3rd, and that i was on my own for negotiating 125 million dollars with his ass agent. You might get the 3rd. Then I keep him.......it isn't as if he is terrible. Tag him for as long as you can, then move on.
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 20, 2020 13:53:56 GMT -7
Joe McRugby is a big Bosa fan. So you guys are in trouble when he gets here. Not me. You guys. I have no concerns about Rugs getting upset, he knows Bosa isn't worth elite level money.
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