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Post by boltnut on Dec 25, 2020 21:14:01 GMT -7
Here's a list of our free agents... who would you guys re-sign? www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/los-angeles-chargers/I'd keep: TE Hunter Henry (8 mil) CB Michael Davis (7 mil) TE Virgil Green (2.5 mil) LB Nick Vigil (3 mil) G Forrest Lamp (3 mil) DE Isaac Rochelle (2 mil) S Rayshawn Jenkins (3.5 mil) WR Tyron Johnson (700,000 ERFA) CB Tevaughn Campbell (700,000 ERFA) FB Gabe Nabers (700,000 ERFA) According to Spotrac, Chargers have 33 million in cap space. The above free agent signings come to about 30 million. And it would bring the number of roster signings to 42. Still would have 11 roster spots to fill. 9 draft picks. I forget how much it take to sign 9 picks. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 26, 2020 2:53:24 GMT -7
Every RB being mentioned in this back and forth would suffice if they had top third of the league OL blocking for them. The problem is not the RB's, it is the OL. False It is indeed quite false.
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 26, 2020 5:22:14 GMT -7
Here's a list of our free agents... who would you guys re-sign? www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/los-angeles-chargers/I'd keep: TE Hunter Henry (8 mil) CB Michael Davis (7 mil) TE Virgil Green (2.5 mil) LB Nick Vigil (3 mil) G Forrest Lamp (3 mil) DE Isaac Rochelle (2 mil) S Rayshawn Jenkins (3.5 mil) WR Tyron Johnson (700,000 ERFA) CB Tevaughn Campbell (700,000 ERFA) FB Gabe Nabers (700,000 ERFA) According to Spotrac, Chargers have 33 million in cap space. The above free agent signings come to about 30 million. And it would bring the number of roster signings to 42. Still would have 11 roster spots to fill. 9 draft picks. I forget how much it take to sign 9 picks. I like the list but I don't think Hunter Henry is worth that much, I'd say 5 million at the most. Either he is not utilized properly or he has been a disappointment IMO.
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 26, 2020 9:52:19 GMT -7
The only way they don’t resign HH is if he commands top dollar and won’t take a 4-year deal with the Chargers.
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Post by boltnut on Dec 26, 2020 9:57:42 GMT -7
Here's a list of our free agents... who would you guys re-sign? www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/los-angeles-chargers/I'd keep: TE Hunter Henry (8 mil) CB Michael Davis (7 mil) TE Virgil Green (2.5 mil) LB Nick Vigil (3 mil) G Forrest Lamp (3 mil) DE Isaac Rochelle (2 mil) S Rayshawn Jenkins (3.5 mil) WR Tyron Johnson (700,000 ERFA) CB Tevaughn Campbell (700,000 ERFA) FB Gabe Nabers (700,000 ERFA) According to Spotrac, Chargers have 33 million in cap space. The above free agent signings come to about 30 million. And it would bring the number of roster signings to 42. Still would have 11 roster spots to fill. 9 draft picks. I forget how much it take to sign 9 picks. I like the list but I don't think Hunter Henry is worth that much, I'd say 5 million at the most. Either he is not utilized properly or he has been a disappointment IMO. He's consistently a top-5 receiving TE and is one of the better blocking TE's in the league. I'm just using PFF's "market value" tool for an estimate cost. He's a weapon for the young QB to use.
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Post by boltnut on Dec 26, 2020 10:22:19 GMT -7
Maybe so, but he is better than Kelley, JJ, and Pope/Ballage. Every RB being mentioned in this back and forth would suffice if they had top third of the league OL blocking for them. The problem is not the RB's, it is the OL. Amen! Chargers' RB's too often getting hit behind the LOS. Kelly and Ballage may not ever be superstars... but they don't have to be. The writing is on the wall... this team will be a team that throws first. They won't need a superstar RB. Would I like to upgrade Ballage through the draft? Yes. Does that need to be a 2nd round pick? No. I'm going OT and DE in the 1st/2nd round. I'm even putting LB and CB ahead of RB as far as PON.
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 26, 2020 11:02:38 GMT -7
I like the list but I don't think Hunter Henry is worth that much, I'd say 5 million at the most. Either he is not utilized properly or he has been a disappointment IMO. He's consistently a top-5 receiving TE and is one of the better blocking TE's in the league. I'm just using PFF's "market value" tool for an estimate cost. He's a weapon for the young QB to use. No dispute there, I just think he needs to be involved more than he is... When KA gets shut down we fold like a cheap card table.
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Post by boltnut on Dec 26, 2020 11:02:43 GMT -7
Speaking of the OL... it's one of the first things I fix, even before the draft begins. And I'd start with the center position. Feeney just hasn't been cutting it. If he re-signs for cheap... fine. But he shouldn't be the starter.
There are a couple of good FA centers on teams that won't be able to re-sign them because of cap trouble. I'd go after Corey Linsley (Packers). He's one of the best run blocking centers and also a very good pass blocker. Also familiar with line coach Campen.
If you saw my re-sign list, you'll notice that we wouldn't have FA money (after re-signs) to sign Linsley. That's when I'd start cutting players that haven't been productive but have big contracts. Trai Turner fits that billing. $11.5 million (no dead cap) would come in handy when signing Linsley ($8.5 million value per PFF) and would actually provide cap saving of $3 million dollars.
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Post by boltnut on Dec 26, 2020 11:06:53 GMT -7
He's consistently a top-5 receiving TE and is one of the better blocking TE's in the league. I'm just using PFF's "market value" tool for an estimate cost. He's a weapon for the young QB to use. No dispute there, I just think he needs to be involved more than he is... When KA gets shut down we fold like a cheap card table. I agree... he's under-utilized. Too often, he's used in pass protection. Such a waste. Fix the damn the OT position. Free Hunter Henry! Free Hunter Henry! Free Hunter Henry!
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Post by sonorajim on Dec 26, 2020 13:45:29 GMT -7
We have to hit on talent on mid - late rds.
That aside, we can't fix everything in 1 offseason.
New Orleans began 2020 with their own picks as the projected starting OL. 1st rounders from 2020, '17, '15, 2nd rd 2019, 3rd rd 2013.
Looks like a good model.
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 26, 2020 14:50:12 GMT -7
We have to hit on talent on mid - late rds. That aside, we can't fix everything in 1 offseason. New Orleans began 2020 with their own picks as the projected starting OL. 1st rounders from 2020, '17, '15, 2nd rd 2019, 3rd rd 2013. Looks like a good model. Agree very much on all counts. It’s going to take 2-3 solid drafts to right the ship. There’s no way to fix all issues within Herbert’s rookie deal. Fix three as best you can now — coaching, OL, CB — and the rest/further in future years. If they don’t address at least coaching and OL now it won’t matter anyway. |
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Post by moekid on Dec 26, 2020 15:24:31 GMT -7
We have to hit on talent on mid - late rds. That aside, we can't fix everything in 1 offseason. New Orleans began 2020 with their own picks as the projected starting OL. 1st rounders from 2020, '17, '15, 2nd rd 2019, 3rd rd 2013. Looks like a good model. Agree very much on all counts. It’s going to take 2-3 solid drafts to right the ship. There’s no way to fix all issues within Herbert’s rookie deal. Fix three as best you can now — coaching, OL, CB — and the rest/further in future years. If they don’t address at least coaching and OL now it won’t matter anyway. Fix the coach and the rest will take of itself. Don’t fix the coach and you’ll constantly be talking about upgrades or plugging holes |
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 26, 2020 15:37:18 GMT -7
Agree very much on all counts. It’s going to take 2-3 solid drafts to right the ship. There’s no way to fix all issues within Herbert’s rookie deal. Fix three as best you can now — coaching, OL, CB — and the rest/further in future years. If they don’t address at least coaching and OL now it won’t matter anyway. Fix the coach and the rest will take of itself. Don’t fix the coach and you’ll constantly be talking about upgrades or plugging holes Indeed. Lynn et al are a dam with a hole in it. You simply can’t cover it up with talent. |
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Post by cthommes on Dec 26, 2020 17:17:02 GMT -7
Agree very much on all counts. It’s going to take 2-3 solid drafts to right the ship. There’s no way to fix all issues within Herbert’s rookie deal. Fix three as best you can now — coaching, OL, CB — and the rest/further in future years. If they don’t address at least coaching and OL now it won’t matter anyway. Fix the coach and the rest will take of itself. Don’t fix the coach and you’ll constantly be talking about upgrades or plugging holes This is crazy talk. Everyone knows that if we reach for the best OT still on the board when we're on the clock in the 1st, then we're super bowl bound. Totally obvious. |
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 26, 2020 17:42:57 GMT -7
Lol agree with all you guys... 100%
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