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Post by boltnut on Dec 27, 2020 20:34:10 GMT -7
I wasn't advocating taking him, just saying he looks good and if we had other holes filled he would be great for our offense. Sorry I'm not on the Hunter Henry train. Well taking Pitts and letting HH walk would create a savings with Pitts on an ELC......but it really depends on where they are drafting from, and my thought is 10-15th.....best get that OT. If saving money is your goal... cut Mike Williams ($15.6 mil) and get a WR in round 1. Or draft a WR in the 3rd... most of those guys can catch as many passes as MW...
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 28, 2020 2:13:17 GMT -7
I think choosing a TE in the 1st in kind of a waste. Especially when you can re-sign a TE that is both a good receiver and a good blocker (Henry). I don't believe Pitts is as good a blocker as Henry... not to mention all of the PON's you bypass to pick him top-15. I suspect Pitts will be off the board, but even if not, I do not see TT taking him. The Bolts will go PON, and our view or prioritization of PON could be vastly different than the clubs. I'm thrilled that you have finally learned my awesome teachings about PON. Most importantly that TT and I ARE PON guys. I hate to do this to you. Believe me I sincerely do not. I have a hunch this year things are lining up for some of your BPA formula !!!! There are two key factors here: We are picking later in the draft than we anticipated. We have many position needs and desires. When this happens you mix in some BPA. In rough terms: Take our top 5 PON's, and pick the BPA from there. LEAN towards Freak's value chart for help. OT's and Edge rushers will get some value points in the selection process for our team.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 28, 2020 2:14:57 GMT -7
Well taking Pitts and letting HH walk would create a savings with Pitts on an ELC......but it really depends on where they are drafting from, and my thought is 10-15th.....best get that OT. If saving money is your goal... cut Mike Williams ($15.6 mil) and get a WR in round 1. Or draft a WR in the 3rd... most of those guys can catch as many passes as MW... Agreed. In my opinion, being selected 7th overall in the draft, Mike Williams has been a complete let down for us.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 28, 2020 2:18:40 GMT -7
I think choosing a TE in the 1st in kind of a waste. Especially when you can re-sign a TE that is both a good receiver and a good blocker (Henry). I don't believe Pitts is as good a blocker as Henry... not to mention all of the PON's you bypass to pick him top-15. The Bolts will go PON, and our view or prioritization of PON could be vastly different than the clubs. No knock against Pitts, but a Tight End that early in the draft being our number 1 selection ? I just don't see it. They would have to lock in love him. Can he line up outside at WR ? The game DEMANDS they build around the Rookie of the Year Freak's very own QB Herbert. That is Pitts only prayer.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 28, 2020 8:22:49 GMT -7
Well taking Pitts and letting HH walk would create a savings with Pitts on an ELC......but it really depends on where they are drafting from, and my thought is 10-15th.....best get that OT. If saving money is your goal... cut Mike Williams ($15.6 mil) and get a WR in round 1. Or draft a WR in the 3rd... most of those guys can catch as many passes as MW... The Bolts spend to the cap, or close to it, so it isn't so much as saving money as it is just shifting it around. My goal would be to dramatically improve the talent in the OL group. When that is accomplished, see where the focus needs to be (RB, WR or TE). Then there is always the other side.....defence has big needs as well. James and Bosa seem quite talented at being injured, as are several others. The puzzle is not easy to build.
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Post by afboltfan on Dec 28, 2020 8:27:07 GMT -7
Is LAC one of those 2 teams?
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 28, 2020 8:35:50 GMT -7
I suspect Pitts will be off the board, but even if not, I do not see TT taking him. The Bolts will go PON, and our view or prioritization of PON could be vastly different than the clubs. I'm thrilled that you have finally learned my awesome teachings about PON. Most importantly that TT and I ARE PON guys. I hate to do this to you. Believe me I sincerely do not. I have a hunch this year things are lining up for some of your BPA formula !!!! There are two key factors here: We are picking later in the draft than we anticipated. We have many position needs and desires. When this happens you mix in some BPA. In rough terms: Take our top 5 PON's, and pick the BPA from there. LEAN towards Freak's value chart for help. OT's and Edge rushers will get some value points in the selection process for our team. 1st and 2nd rd picks should lean heavily towards BPA in my approach or view. With the Bolts picking outside the top 10, TT should be well protected from making a ridiculous reach to solve a PON, but we might be surprised at their abilities in this aspect. I expect TT/Spanos to draft one OL, sign one OL from FA, and believe they have solved the deficit.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 28, 2020 8:41:33 GMT -7
I suspect Pitts will be off the board, but even if not, I do not see TT taking him. The Bolts will go PON, and our view or prioritization of PON could be vastly different than the clubs. No knock against Pitts, but a Tight End that early in the draft being our number 1 selection ? I just don't see it. They would have to lock in love him. Can he line up outside at WR ? The game DEMANDS they build around the Rookie of the Year Freak's very own QB Herbert. That is Pitts only prayer. Comprehension is tough for you? The sentence you highlighted clearly states "I do not see TT taking him"....... Bolts' priority should be OL, and specifically OT......but somehow I feel TT/Spanos go a different direction with that initial pick.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 28, 2020 8:46:54 GMT -7
If saving money is your goal... cut Mike Williams ($15.6 mil) and get a WR in round 1. Or draft a WR in the 3rd... most of those guys can catch as many passes as MW... Agreed. In my opinion, being selected 7th overall in the draft, Mike Williams has been a complete let down for us. "complete let down" seems a tad bit overly dramatic. That said, moving on from MW should certainly be evaluated as they build the off season plan.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 28, 2020 8:49:05 GMT -7
Is LAC one of those 2 teams? No they are not......Bolts have Lynn under contract for one more season.
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Post by lightsout42 on Dec 28, 2020 9:58:12 GMT -7
Well taking Pitts and letting HH walk would create a savings with Pitts on an ELC......but it really depends on where they are drafting from, and my thought is 10-15th.....best get that OT. If saving money is your goal... cut Mike Williams ($15.6 mil) and get a WR in round 1. Or draft a WR in the 3rd... most of those guys can catch as many passes as MW... I have to think this is on the table. He’s not worth the money. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 28, 2020 10:24:44 GMT -7
No knock against Pitts, but a Tight End that early in the draft being our number 1 selection ? I just don't see it. They would have to lock in love him. Can he line up outside at WR ? The game DEMANDS they build around the Rookie of the Year Freak's very own QB Herbert. That is Pitts only prayer. Comprehension is tough for you? The sentence you highlighted clearly states "I do not see TT taking him"....... Bolts' priority should be OL, and specifically OT......but somehow I feel TT/Spanos go a different direction with that initial pick. I was agreeing with you. Thanks for the attack
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 28, 2020 10:25:50 GMT -7
Agreed. In my opinion, being selected 7th overall in the draft, Mike Williams has been a complete let down for us. "complete let down" seems a tad bit overly dramatic. That said, moving on from MW should certainly be evaluated as they build the off season plan. He's a 3-4 WR in depth. THAT's a let down from 7th overall pick.
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Post by frozendisc on Dec 28, 2020 11:22:30 GMT -7
"complete let down" seems a tad bit overly dramatic. That said, moving on from MW should certainly be evaluated as they build the off season plan. He's a 3-4 WR in depth. THAT's a let down from 7th overall pick. I do not agree with your evaluation. Regardless, MW's actual numbers will be a strong influence on how the club decides the future. With a completely new coaching staff coming in (fingers crossed eh), it would be interesting if there is a strong advocate for him, or none at all. If the Bolts release MW, I suspect he gets picked up quickly, with no loss in pay.
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Post by chargerfreak on Dec 28, 2020 14:42:53 GMT -7
He's a 3-4 WR in depth. THAT's a let down from 7th overall pick. Regardless, MW's actual numbers will be a strong influence on how the club decides the future. With a completely new coaching staff coming in (fingers crossed eh), it would be interesting if there is a strong advocate for him, or none at all. If the Bolts release MW, I suspect he gets picked up quickly, with no loss in pay. I now feel great about my evaluation. Missed games with glass injuries, dropped balls, couldn't find the endzone if there was no defense on the field. Suck TD numbers. 7th overall pick ?? yeah................................. In FOUR YEARS he has 16 TD's.....................
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