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Post by frozendisc on May 1, 2021 6:42:53 GMT -7
once you get out of the 1st round its even more a crap shoot. It can be easy to say TT went in like a lion and out like a lamb. But it looks like the last two have some unknowns at the higher level, but there is hope their ceiling is higher. on the plus side, we could have two day one starters.. I think TTs record in the third is part of the problem, aside from KA he has done poorly in the third during his tenure. While I’ll admit that JP was not on my radar, he is an intriguing prospect. Did he merit such a high pick? I think that is a valid question but some people had him ranked as a potential 2nd round pick! At least TT didn’t take him there... Their moms think they both should have gone in the 1st round.....reality is they feel like a early pick for 3rd rounders.
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Post by fouts2herbert on May 1, 2021 6:43:56 GMT -7
once you get out of the 1st round its even more a crap shoot. It can be easy to say TT went in like a lion and out like a lamb. But it looks like the last two have some unknowns at the higher level, but there is hope their ceiling is higher. on the plus side, we could have two day one starters.. Slater certainly equates to a day one starter. Samuel will see so much playing time he might as well be called day one starter. Then TT fell off a cliff getting too cute with his abilities to see into the future......both will just be supporting players, and clubs need that but usually get it in the 4th thru 7th rounds. Hoping they are much more than my view, time will tell. Slater and samuel are bot day one starters. Samuel is already more polished than michael davis, he’s going to start. One thing to be said about palmer, he probably winds up being a better value than mike williams. He fits the mold of a #2 receiver but instead of getting him 7th overall you get him 70 picks after that. MW is probably not going to get extended if this kid shows up this year, plus he’s arguably already a better route runner than MW but that’s not saying much. If MW puts together a nice season and the chargers let him walk, he could potentially net the chargers a third round compensatory pick in the 2023 draft. A lot of people were high on mckitty, folks talking about how he never got a good look in college. We’ll find out because the chargers need him to show up after cook leaves.
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Post by frozendisc on May 1, 2021 6:55:30 GMT -7
Slater certainly equates to a day one starter. Samuel will see so much playing time he might as well be called day one starter. Then TT fell off a cliff getting too cute with his abilities to see into the future......both will just be supporting players, and clubs need that but usually get it in the 4th thru 7th rounds. Hoping they are much more than my view, time will tell. Slater and samuel are bot day one starters. Samuel is already more polished than michael davis, he’s going to start. One thing to be said about palmer, he probably winds up being a better value than mike williams. He fits the mold of a #2 receiver but instead of getting him 7th overall you get him 70 picks after that. MW is probably not going to get extended if this kid shows up this year, plus he’s arguably already a better route runner than MW but that’s not saying much. If MW puts together a nice season and the chargers let him walk, he could potentially net the chargers a third round compensatory pick in the 2023 draft. A lot of people were high on mckitty, folks talking about how he never got a good look in college. We’ll find out because the chargers need him to show up after cook leaves. Picks 1 and 2 were very solid......then it feels like they broke out the tarot cards. The Bolts are paying MW 14 million this year, every WR is a better value than him. Tell me Palmer is the 3rd WR today......doesn't need camp to surpass all other WR's on roster. TT didn't improve the talent at 3rd WR, he just replicated what he already had, marginal talent. The TE didn't get a fair shake in college justifies taking him in the 3rd round. That seems unwise..... Look, TT might have made four great picks, I certainly hope so. But questioning them is fair game, as they look anything but great......
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Post by lazylightning on May 1, 2021 7:07:07 GMT -7
Slater certainly equates to a day one starter. Samuel will see so much playing time he might as well be called day one starter. Then TT fell off a cliff getting too cute with his abilities to see into the future......both will just be supporting players, and clubs need that but usually get it in the 4th thru 7th rounds. Hoping they are much more than my view, time will tell. Slater and samuel are bot day one starters. Samuel is already more polished than michael davis, he’s going to start. One thing to be said about palmer, he probably winds up being a better value than mike williams. He fits the mold of a #2 receiver but instead of getting him 7th overall you get him 70 picks after that. MW is probably not going to get extended if this kid shows up this year, plus he’s arguably already a better route runner than MW but that’s not saying much. If MW puts together a nice season and the chargers let him walk, he could potentially net the chargers a third round compensatory pick in the 2023 draft. A lot of people were high on mckitty, folks talking about how he never got a good look in college. We’ll find out because the chargers need him to show up after cook leaves. I will be surprised if Mike Williams gets extended. I think MW will have a great year playing for the next contract, then the bolts will let him go. The bolts may be thinking Palmer is the future MW type player.
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Post by fouts2herbert on May 1, 2021 7:09:00 GMT -7
Slater and samuel are bot day one starters. Samuel is already more polished than michael davis, he’s going to start. One thing to be said about palmer, he probably winds up being a better value than mike williams. He fits the mold of a #2 receiver but instead of getting him 7th overall you get him 70 picks after that. MW is probably not going to get extended if this kid shows up this year, plus he’s arguably already a better route runner than MW but that’s not saying much. If MW puts together a nice season and the chargers let him walk, he could potentially net the chargers a third round compensatory pick in the 2023 draft. A lot of people were high on mckitty, folks talking about how he never got a good look in college. We’ll find out because the chargers need him to show up after cook leaves. Picks 1 and 2 were very solid......then it feels like they broke out the tarot cards. The Bolts are paying MW 14 million this year, every WR is a better value than him. Tell me Palmer is the 3rd WR today......doesn't need camp to surpass all other WR's on roster. TT didn't improve the talent at 3rd WR, he just replicated what he already had, marginal talent. The TE didn't get a fair shake in college justifies taking him in the 3rd round. That seems unwise..... Look, TT might have made four great picks, I certainly hope so. But questioning them is fair game, as they look anything but great...... I’m trying to positive and you are making it rather difficult to do so  I agree, the names that were on the board when these guys were picked certainly raises some eyebrows. I think TT picking these guys was a way of protecting guys like adderly and nwosu, he’ll add depth at those positions today but I think he wants to give those older picks a chance to succeed. Otherwise people will say look, staley came aboard, they cleaned house and now the team is better, so why the fluke do we need TT for?
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Post by fouts2herbert on May 1, 2021 7:12:26 GMT -7
Slater and samuel are bot day one starters. Samuel is already more polished than michael davis, he’s going to start. One thing to be said about palmer, he probably winds up being a better value than mike williams. He fits the mold of a #2 receiver but instead of getting him 7th overall you get him 70 picks after that. MW is probably not going to get extended if this kid shows up this year, plus he’s arguably already a better route runner than MW but that’s not saying much. If MW puts together a nice season and the chargers let him walk, he could potentially net the chargers a third round compensatory pick in the 2023 draft. A lot of people were high on mckitty, folks talking about how he never got a good look in college. We’ll find out because the chargers need him to show up after cook leaves. I will be surprised if Mike Williams gets extended. I think MW will have a great year playing for the next contract, then the bolts will let him go. The bolts may be thinking Palmer is the future MW type player. Absolutely, MW sees the writing on the wall, the chargers are not going to have two 15 mil/year wide outs. Palmer was clearly drafted to replace him, at least that is the plan, but plans change depending on injuries and such.
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Post by afboltfan on May 1, 2021 7:17:44 GMT -7
Slater and samuel are bot day one starters. Samuel is already more polished than michael davis, he’s going to start. One thing to be said about palmer, he probably winds up being a better value than mike williams. He fits the mold of a #2 receiver but instead of getting him 7th overall you get him 70 picks after that. MW is probably not going to get extended if this kid shows up this year, plus he’s arguably already a better route runner than MW but that’s not saying much. If MW puts together a nice season and the chargers let him walk, he could potentially net the chargers a third round compensatory pick in the 2023 draft. A lot of people were high on mckitty, folks talking about how he never got a good look in college. We’ll find out because the chargers need him to show up after cook leaves. Picks 1 and 2 were very solid......then it feels like they broke out the tarot cards. The Bolts are paying MW 14 million this year, every WR is a better value than him. Tell me Palmer is the 3rd WR today......doesn't need camp to surpass all other WR's on roster. TT didn't improve the talent at 3rd WR, he just replicated what he already had, marginal talent.The TE didn't get a fair shake in college justifies taking him in the 3rd round. That seems unwise.....
Look, TT might have made four great picks, I certainly hope so. But questioning them is fair game, as they look anything but great...... Exactly! Spot on goalie... Like I said, Palmer "seems" no different than Hill and Reed. I honestly love the McKitty pick! I think he'll pound some linebackers into the dirt and he is a Gigantor target for Herbert.
Prove me wrong Mr. Palmer...
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Post by HollywoodHerbie Hairbear on May 1, 2021 7:41:01 GMT -7
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Post by frozendisc on May 1, 2021 8:00:21 GMT -7
Picks 1 and 2 were very solid......then it feels like they broke out the tarot cards. The Bolts are paying MW 14 million this year, every WR is a better value than him. Tell me Palmer is the 3rd WR today......doesn't need camp to surpass all other WR's on roster. TT didn't improve the talent at 3rd WR, he just replicated what he already had, marginal talent. The TE didn't get a fair shake in college justifies taking him in the 3rd round. That seems unwise..... Look, TT might have made four great picks, I certainly hope so. But questioning them is fair game, as they look anything but great...... I’m trying to positive and you are making it rather difficult to do so I agree, the names that were on the board when these guys were picked certainly raises some eyebrows. I think TT picking these guys was a way of protecting guys like adderly and nwosu, he’ll add depth at those positions today but I think he wants to give those older picks a chance to succeed. Otherwise people will say look, staley came aboard, they cleaned house and now the team is better, so why the fluke do we need TT for? Interesting take, I must admit. GM's usually do not employ that type of mindset, but to be fair, it does occur. In my view, any GM spending time worrying about his legacy is headed to unemployment much sooner than later.
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Post by frozendisc on May 1, 2021 8:05:45 GMT -7
Slater and samuel are bot day one starters. Samuel is already more polished than michael davis, he’s going to start. One thing to be said about palmer, he probably winds up being a better value than mike williams. He fits the mold of a #2 receiver but instead of getting him 7th overall you get him 70 picks after that. MW is probably not going to get extended if this kid shows up this year, plus he’s arguably already a better route runner than MW but that’s not saying much. If MW puts together a nice season and the chargers let him walk, he could potentially net the chargers a third round compensatory pick in the 2023 draft. A lot of people were high on mckitty, folks talking about how he never got a good look in college. We’ll find out because the chargers need him to show up after cook leaves. I will be surprised if Mike Williams gets extended. I think MW will have a great year playing for the next contract, then the bolts will let him go. The bolts may be thinking Palmer is the future MW type player. If the plan is to use MW this season, then walk from him next, why draft his perceived replacement this season. Why burn a year of ELC? This plan seems a year too early, especially with so many other pressing needs, take the WR replacement next year.
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Post by jwr10x on May 1, 2021 8:26:44 GMT -7
With the drafting of Palmer I believe they feel that with a top notch QB like Herbert he will be able do very well. Let face it their QB's at Tenn were bottom barrel and even a Hall of Fame Wide Receiver can't preform if they have a QB that can't get them the ball. I would have hoped TT would have opted for a speed receiver but we will see.
So I am willing to see how he does.
So far TT has added PON to replace players let go at OT,CB,TE. So I expect to see more inside OL , LB and players that can backup positions as well as excel on Special Teams today.
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Post by lazylightning on May 1, 2021 8:30:52 GMT -7
I will be surprised if Mike Williams gets extended. I think MW will have a great year playing for the next contract, then the bolts will let him go. The bolts may be thinking Palmer is the future MW type player. If the plan is to use MW this season, then walk from him next, why draft his perceived replacement this season. Why burn a year of ELC? This plan seems a year too early, especially with so many other pressing needs, take the WR replacement next year. It's called drafting for the future instead of just-in-time. The bolts saw a guy they liked and drafted him. One hole in the roster that does not need to be filled next year. Granted, it does seem like a luxury pick when considering other needs like D-Line, Edge, S.
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Post by fouts2herbert on May 1, 2021 9:00:00 GMT -7
I will be surprised if Mike Williams gets extended. I think MW will have a great year playing for the next contract, then the bolts will let him go. The bolts may be thinking Palmer is the future MW type player. If the plan is to use MW this season, then walk from him next, why draft his perceived replacement this season. Why burn a year of ELC? This plan seems a year too early, especially with so many other pressing needs, take the WR replacement next year. Perhaps I’m reading too much into this but,...are you implying that MW might still be traded this offseason?
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Post by fouts2herbert on May 1, 2021 9:03:10 GMT -7
If the plan is to use MW this season, then walk from him next, why draft his perceived replacement this season. Why burn a year of ELC? This plan seems a year too early, especially with so many other pressing needs, take the WR replacement next year. It's called drafting for the future instead of just-in-time. The bolts saw a guy they liked and drafted him. One hole in the roster that does not need to be filled next year. Granted, it does seem like a luxury pick when considering other needs like D-Line, Edge, S. I thought this too, they must just really be high on this kid, so that’s exciting if it pans out. Plus by the time MW walks, he’ll be acclimated and settled into the #2 spot. With MWs injury prone playstyle palmer might play a lot more than anticipated this year, you never know
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Post by HollywoodHerbie Hairbear on May 1, 2021 9:16:41 GMT -7
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I agree, the names that were on the board when these guys were picked certainly raises some eyebrows. I think TT picking these guys was a way of protecting guys like adderly and nwosu, he’ll add depth at those positions today but I think he wants to give those older picks a chance to succeed. Otherwise people will say look, staley came aboard, they cleaned house and now the team is better, so why the fluke do we need TT for? 
