Mock Drafts

[sonorajim]

Reuter's latest mock has Chargers taking 1. OT Cody Ford 2. DT Renell Wren 3. S Will Harris 4. KeeSean Johnson I like 1,2 & 4. S is a need but not a fan of Harris.

[boltgang74]

Would still be a damn good draft overall.Got my vote.

[ohioboltfan]

Serious Question:
In Charles Davis' recent mock draft, (here: www.nfl.com/draft/2019/mock-drafts) he has us taking CB Rock Ya-Sin and with the very next pick the Chiefs select CB Greedy Williams.
My question is why would he have Ya-Sin chosen before Greedy Williams? Isn't Williams regarded as the #1 or 2 best CB prospect, and Ya-Sin a distant third? Is Charles Davis playing favorites (or anti-favorites) here, or does he have inside info on scheme fit or character issues that make Ya-Sin more of a Charger than an otherwise better player at the same position?
I'm just trying to understand this mock draft, nothing for or against the two players themselves.

[sonorajim]

Apr 8, 2019 9:40:01 GMT -7 ohioboltfan said:

Serious Question:
In Charles Davis' recent mock draft, (here: www.nfl.com/draft/2019/mock-drafts) he has us taking CB Rock Ya-Sin and with the very next pick the Chiefs select CB Greedy Williams.
My question is why would he have Ya-Sin chosen before Greedy Williams? Isn't Williams regarded as the #1 or 2 best CB prospect, and Ya-Sin a distant third? Is Charles Davis playing favorites (or anti-favorites) here, or does he have inside info on scheme fit or character issues that make Ya-Sin more of a Charger than an otherwise better player at the same position?
I'm just trying to understand this mock draft, nothing for or against the two players themselves.

Scheme. Greedy is better in press, needs to improve run support. Rock is better in off coverage, strong in run support.

With all the safties still on the board TT might take his favorite in this position.

[frozendisc]

Apr 8, 2019 9:58:08 GMT -7 sonorajim said:

Apr 8, 2019 9:40:01 GMT -7 ohioboltfan said:

Serious Question:
In Charles Davis' recent mock draft, (here: www.nfl.com/draft/2019/mock-drafts) he has us taking CB Rock Ya-Sin and with the very next pick the Chiefs select CB Greedy Williams.
My question is why would he have Ya-Sin chosen before Greedy Williams? Isn't Williams regarded as the #1 or 2 best CB prospect, and Ya-Sin a distant third? Is Charles Davis playing favorites (or anti-favorites) here, or does he have inside info on scheme fit or character issues that make Ya-Sin more of a Charger than an otherwise better player at the same position?
I'm just trying to understand this mock draft, nothing for or against the two players themselves.

Scheme. Greedy is better in press, needs to improve run support. Rock is better in off coverage, strong in run support.

With all the safties still on the board TT might take his favorite in this position.

Greedy needs to improve in his run support......now that is funny as hell. Greedy doesn't participate in run support, but he can cover WR's really really well.

[marconi]

 A player I really hope we are able to get is Safety Nassir Adderley. I was thinking we could land him in the 2nd but he keeps moving up on everyone's draft boards. I think there may be a run on safeties late in the first and early into the 2nd so our options may be limited after that.

If we were to take him with our first round pick, it looks like our best value in round 2, and still addressing a PON, would then ILB Germaine Pratt - N.C. State. Our other best options I think would be at OT taking either Dalton Risner, Kaleb McGary or Yodny Cajuste in that order.

Of course DT is still one of the biggest needs and my hope is that Khalen Saunders would still be available in the 3rd.

[sonorajim]

Apr 8, 2019 10:47:04 GMT -7 frozendisc said:

Apr 8, 2019 9:58:08 GMT -7 sonorajim said:

Scheme. Greedy is better in press, needs to improve run support. Rock is better in off coverage, strong in run support.

With all the safties still on the board TT might take his favorite in this position.

Greedy needs to improve in his run support......now that is funny as hell. Greedy doesn't participate in run support, but he can cover WR's really really well.

That's a mixed bag. Cromartie was famous for playing that way. Some didn't like him, go figure. I'd take the FS.

[xenos]

Dane Brugler's 7 round mock draft. Here's what he has for us for all 7 rounds with only the first having any significant analysis:

theathletic.com/909149/2019/04/08/dane-bruglers-mock-draft-5-0-projecting-all-seven-rounds-and-all-254-selections/

1. Nasir Adderley, FS, Delaware

The Chargers hit a home run with a first-round safety (Derwin James) last year and could do it again this April. Adderley is the top free safety prospect in this class and Los Angeles has done plenty of legwork on the FCS star, including a recent top-30 visit at the facility.

2. Tytus Howard, OT, Alabama State
3. Anthony Nelson, DL, Iowa
4. Tyler Jones, OG, NC State
5. Mark Fields, CB, Clemson
6. DaMarkus Lodge, WR, Ole Miss
7. Jacob Dolegala, QB, Central Connecticut

[xenos]

It's interesting how much Brugler has certain forum favorites dropping to the 2nd round. Guys like Greedy Williams, Dalton Risner, Mack Wilson, Taylor Rapp, and Kaleb McGary. It could mean we do have choices at the 28th spot. Or that it would be better to trade down.

theathletic.com/909149/2019/04/08/dane-bruglers-mock-draft-5-0-projecting-all-seven-rounds-and-all-254-selections/

Second Round

33. Arizona Cardinals - Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
34. Indianapolis Colts - Johnathan Abram, SS, Mississippi State
35. Oakland Raiders - L.J. Collier, EDGE, TCU

36. San Francisco 49ers - Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma
During the season, Brown was trending toward the top half of Round One. But his Lisfranc surgery (at only 166 pounds) has cooled his draft projection, giving the 49ers a steal in the early second. Brown and Dante Pettis in back-to-back second rounds is a nice haul for Jimmy Garoppolo.

37. New York Giants - Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss
38. Jacksonville Jaguars - N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
39. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama
40. Buffalo Bills - Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington
41. Denver Broncos - Chris Lindstrom, OG, Boston College

42. Cincinnati Bengals - Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama
The Bengals are searching for their version of Leighton Vander Esch, which is why Devin White and Devin Bush are on their radar in Round One. But Wilson isn't a bad Plan B in the second round. He has three-down abilities, including the potential to be one of the better cover linebackers in this class.

43. Detroit Lions - Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State
44. Green Bay Packers - Dalton Risner, OL, Kansas State
45. Atlanta Falcons - Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, DB, Florida
46. Washington Redskins - Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia
47. Carolina Panthers - Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State
48. Miami Dolphins - Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan

49. Cleveland Browns - Taylor Rapp, SS, Washington
Rapp wasn't a lock first rounder prior to his pro day and it now seems very unlikely that he will crack the top 32 after his 4.78 40-yard dash. However, there are teams in the mid-second round that loved to see that 4.78, hoping to see him fall this far.

50. Minnesota Vikings - Dre'Mont Jones, DT, Ohio State
51. Tennessee Titans - Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida
52. Pittsburgh Steelers - Chase Winovich, EDGE, Michigan
53. Philadelphia Eagles - Deionte Thompson, FS, Alabama
54. Houston Texans - Elgton Jenkins, OG, Mississippi State

55. Houston Texans - Isaiah Johnson, CB, Houston
A former wide receiver, Johnson's footwork and route recognition are still in the development phase as a cornerback. However, his size (6-2), length (33 inches) and speed (4.40) are outstanding and teams are willing to bet on those skills as early as the second round.

56. New England Patriots - Irv Smith Jr., TE, Alabama
57. Philadelphia Eagles - Lonnie Johnson, CB, Kentucky
58. Dallas Cowboys - Juan Thornhill, FS, Virginia
59. Indianapolis Colts - Joejuan Williams, CB, Vanderbilt
60. Los Angeles Chargers - Tytus Howard, OT, Alabama State
61. Kansas City Chiefs - Andy Isabella, WR, Massachusetts
62. New Orleans Saints - Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina
63. Kansas City Chiefs - Jaylon Ferguson, EDGE, Louisiana Tech

64. New England Patriots - Jahlani Tavai, LB, Hawaii
Out of sight, out of mind. Unfortunately, that has been the theme of Tavai's pre-draft process after missing the Senior Bowl and combine with his shoulder injury. However, his three-down, hybrid skill set is still squarely on the radar of NFL teams, including the Patriots.

[chargerfreak]

Apr 9, 2019 18:21:18 GMT -7 xenos said:

It's interesting how much Brugler has certain forum favorites dropping to the 2nd round. Guys like Greedy Williams, Dalton Risner, Mack Wilson, Taylor Rapp, and Kaleb McGary. It could mean we do have choices at the 28th spot. Or that it would be better to trade down.

theathletic.com/909149/2019/04/08/dane-bruglers-mock-draft-5-0-projecting-all-seven-rounds-and-all-254-selections/

Second Round

33. Arizona Cardinals - Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
34. Indianapolis Colts - Johnathan Abram, SS, Mississippi State
35. Oakland Raiders - L.J. Collier, EDGE, TCU

36. San Francisco 49ers - Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma
During the season, Brown was trending toward the top half of Round One. But his Lisfranc surgery (at only 166 pounds) has cooled his draft projection, giving the 49ers a steal in the early second. Brown and Dante Pettis in back-to-back second rounds is a nice haul for Jimmy Garoppolo.

37. New York Giants - Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss
38. Jacksonville Jaguars - N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
39. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama
40. Buffalo Bills - Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington
41. Denver Broncos - Chris Lindstrom, OG, Boston College

42. Cincinnati Bengals - Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama
The Bengals are searching for their version of Leighton Vander Esch, which is why Devin White and Devin Bush are on their radar in Round One. But Wilson isn't a bad Plan B in the second round. He has three-down abilities, including the potential to be one of the better cover linebackers in this class.

43. Detroit Lions - Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State
44. Green Bay Packers - Dalton Risner, OL, Kansas State
45. Atlanta Falcons - Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, DB, Florida
46. Washington Redskins - Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia
47. Carolina Panthers - Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State
48. Miami Dolphins - Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan

49. Cleveland Browns - Taylor Rapp, SS, Washington
Rapp wasn't a lock first rounder prior to his pro day and it now seems very unlikely that he will crack the top 32 after his 4.78 40-yard dash. However, there are teams in the mid-second round that loved to see that 4.78, hoping to see him fall this far.

50. Minnesota Vikings - Dre'Mont Jones, DT, Ohio State
51. Tennessee Titans - Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida
52. Pittsburgh Steelers - Chase Winovich, EDGE, Michigan
53. Philadelphia Eagles - Deionte Thompson, FS, Alabama
54. Houston Texans - Elgton Jenkins, OG, Mississippi State

55. Houston Texans - Isaiah Johnson, CB, Houston
A former wide receiver, Johnson's footwork and route recognition are still in the development phase as a cornerback. However, his size (6-2), length (33 inches) and speed (4.40) are outstanding and teams are willing to bet on those skills as early as the second round.

56. New England Patriots - Irv Smith Jr., TE, Alabama
57. Philadelphia Eagles - Lonnie Johnson, CB, Kentucky
58. Dallas Cowboys - Juan Thornhill, FS, Virginia
59. Indianapolis Colts - Joejuan Williams, CB, Vanderbilt
60. Los Angeles Chargers - Tytus Howard, OT, Alabama State
61. Kansas City Chiefs - Andy Isabella, WR, Massachusetts
62. New Orleans Saints - Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina
63. Kansas City Chiefs - Jaylon Ferguson, EDGE, Louisiana Tech

64. New England Patriots - Jahlani Tavai, LB, Hawaii
Out of sight, out of mind. Unfortunately, that has been the theme of Tavai's pre-draft process after missing the Senior Bowl and combine with his shoulder injury. However, his three-down, hybrid skill set is still squarely on the radar of NFL teams, including the Patriots.

If a team wants our #28 pick in the first, and we can make them pay dearly for it, I have no problem trading back. Has to be in the top of the second round though. Top 5ish ?

[xenos]

Apr 10, 2019 3:28:36 GMT -7 chargerfreak said:

Apr 9, 2019 18:21:18 GMT -7 xenos said:

It's interesting how much Brugler has certain forum favorites dropping to the 2nd round. Guys like Greedy Williams, Dalton Risner, Mack Wilson, Taylor Rapp, and Kaleb McGary. It could mean we do have choices at the 28th spot. Or that it would be better to trade down.

theathletic.com/909149/2019/04/08/dane-bruglers-mock-draft-5-0-projecting-all-seven-rounds-and-all-254-selections/

If a team wants our #28 pick in the first, and we can make them pay dearly for it, I have no problem trading back. Has to be in the top of the second round though. Top 5ish ?

I doubt we get a bounty if we only trade back that far.

[chargerfreak]

Apr 10, 2019 16:33:59 GMT -7 xenos said:

Apr 10, 2019 3:28:36 GMT -7 chargerfreak said:

If a team wants our #28 pick in the first, and we can make them pay dearly for it, I have no problem trading back. Has to be in the top of the second round though. Top 5ish ?

I doubt we get a bounty if we only trade back that far.

An early 2nd and an early 3rd would be a bounty when we are picking 28th.

[sonorajim]

Apr 10, 2019 16:33:59 GMT -7 xenos said:

Apr 10, 2019 3:28:36 GMT -7 chargerfreak said:

If a team wants our #28 pick in the first, and we can make them pay dearly for it, I have no problem trading back. Has to be in the top of the second round though. Top 5ish ?

I doubt we get a bounty if we only trade back that far.

#28 is worth a top 5ish 2nd + top 5ish 4th per value chart. Not too shabby in this draft. Depending on who's left at 28, it would be a good trade if top 5 ea DTs, OL, DBs are gone.

[xenos]

Apr 11, 2019 3:08:27 GMT -7 chargerfreak said:

Apr 10, 2019 16:33:59 GMT -7 xenos said:

I doubt we get a bounty if we only trade back that far.

An early 2nd and an early 3rd would be a bounty when we are picking 28th.

If we manage to get both an early 2nd and early 3rd without giving up anything else in return besides our 1st, then TT earned his extension this year. And the other team's GM needs to be fired. With any luck it'll be an AFC West division rival.

[joemcrugby]

Apr 11, 2019 16:29:55 GMT -7 xenos said:

Apr 11, 2019 3:08:27 GMT -7 chargerfreak said:

An early 2nd and an early 3rd would be a bounty when we are picking 28th.

If we manage to get both an early 2nd and early 3rd without giving up anything else in return besides our 1st, then TT earned his extension this year. And the other team's GM needs to be fired. With any luck it'll be an AFC West division rival.

It all depends on how desperate a team picking near the top of the draft who passed on a QB with a top of the 1st round pick are to sign somebody they like (a) before somebody else snaps him up, and (b) have the QB under control for five years by picking him in the 1st round as opposed to the 2nd.

It isn't all that likely, but teams will overpay for a QB that they believe has a chance to be a franchise QB. At pick #28, I'd have the phone lines open listening to what Tampa Bay, NYG and Jacksonville are willing to offer should they pass on a QB in round 1.