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Post by joemcrugby on Apr 15, 2019 10:25:34 GMT -7
I thought that your point was that successful owners do it. Art Rooney and his Steelers were the sad sacks and laughingstocks of the NFL for decades, the equivalent of the reborn from the ashes expansion franchise Cleveland Browns of the past two decades. Only after Chuck Noll was hired and was responsible for personnel decisions and Art’s role was limited to signing checks did the fortunes of the franchise do a 180. From my understanding, the sons of Rooney’s main “personnel” role since the dawn of free agency has been for their franchise to pursue a develop their own and have a very limited presence in free agency philosophy. Outside of deciding that character flawed players need to go or shouldn’t be drafted, they don’t get involved in the decision “let’s draft player X instead of player Y”; they leave that to the professional personnel people that they hire. I don’t believe that I am incorrect in that assessment. As for Jerruh, two playoff wins over the past 22 seasons after Jimmy Johnson’s core started departing from the franchise proved what a disaster Jerruh and his ego have been as a GM, and you’re talking about an owner who played big boy D1 football at Arkansas. The almost universal rule regarding modern NFL ownership is that the more an owner inserts himself/herself into the personnel decision process, the worse it is for the franchise. I didn't know Jerry played D1 back in the day. That's worse, cuz then he thinks he knows personnel. He has had some scary selections. He thinks he knows because 51 years ago he played at Arkansas. It's almost as bad as an NHL employee knows NFL. Almost, but not quite. Jimmuh and Jerruh were teammates and often road trip roommates on the 1964 Arkansas national championship squad. m.arktimes.com/arkansas/when-jerry-met-jimmy/Content?oid=4757291 |
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 15, 2019 10:30:44 GMT -7
If only you kissed up to woodMod as much of the others, we wouldn't be in this boat. Sad really. As Chargeroo and Sonorajim can attest, that has been my ownership take (ad nauseum in the Nonsense forum at the CMB) for fifteen years. In fact, I believe that it has been reinforced over that timeframe with the examples that are the Cowboys and Redskins franchises. Boring attorney talk while I am trying to stir up the goalie. Are you a Game of Thrones watcher ? I won't get into it because I would have to pay for HBO !! HA !........what Redskins franchise ? Is Dan Snyder making players picks too ? I must have forgot that one. I guarantee they have had to pick up Colts Jim Irsay and throw him out of the War Room on occasion. Shove a bag of pills in his pocket and throw him out the door.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 15, 2019 10:43:06 GMT -7
I didn't know Jerry played D1 back in the day. That's worse, cuz then he thinks he knows personnel. He has had some scary selections. He thinks he knows because 51 years ago he played at Arkansas. It's almost as bad as an NHL employee knows NFL. Almost, but not quite. Jimmuh and Jerruh were teammates and often road trip roommates on the 1964 Arkansas national championship squad. m.arktimes.com/arkansas/when-jerry-met-jimmy/Content?oid=4757291I remember Jerry came a callin' while Jimmy was at the U. Jim went a runnin' too. Things were a lot more personal back in the day. Old connections would meet up in the Pro's, or some people made it and called their buddies for help.
Now it's Sean McVay is a young guru, everybody hire the next possible Sean McVay !!!! Hey, young coordinator at William and Mary, did you pass by Sean McVay and say hi to him ? You did. Welcome to the NFL. You're hired !
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 15, 2019 10:44:41 GMT -7
As Chargeroo and Sonorajim can attest, that has been my ownership take (ad nauseum in the Nonsense forum at the CMB) for fifteen years. In fact, I believe that it has been reinforced over that timeframe with the examples that are the Cowboys and Redskins franchises. Boring attorney talk while I am trying to stir up the goalie. Are you a Game of Thrones watcher ? I won't get into it because I would have to pay for HBO !! HA !........what Redskins franchise ? Is Dan Snyder making players picks too ? I must have forgot that one. I guarantee they have had to pick up Colts Jim Irsay and throw him out of the War Room on occasion. Shove a bag of pills in his pocket and throw him out the door. Lawyer talk can be good and bad....... Stirring up the goalie....too funny. Stir this one, Pitt gets swept out by NYI......
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Post by NoMoreChillies on Apr 16, 2019 2:38:41 GMT -7
He would make a great RT, and i wouldnt be angry with the pick. I still think DT would make more of an impact NMC.....so you would not be angry if TT passed on Wilkins to take Risner ? My point is simple, until the draft has moved passed the 28th pick, very difficult to know just how one might feel. nah not angry (i am just an aussie noob) If not Dexter I would prefer Cody Ford 1st round or Kaleb McGary 2nd round. Still i trust TT, he has made the right choices previously and he prolly forgotten more about football than i have learned.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 16, 2019 3:16:43 GMT -7
Boring attorney talk while I am trying to stir up the goalie. Are you a Game of Thrones watcher ? I won't get into it because I would have to pay for HBO !! HA !........what Redskins franchise ? Is Dan Snyder making players picks too ? I must have forgot that one. I guarantee they have had to pick up Colts Jim Irsay and throw him out of the War Room on occasion. Shove a bag of pills in his pocket and throw him out the door. Lawyer talk can be good and bad....... Stirring up the goalie....too funny. Stir this one, Pitt gets swept out by NYI...... Does Montreal allow you to talk about teams that actually make the playoffs ?
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 16, 2019 3:23:50 GMT -7
NMC.....so you would not be angry if TT passed on Wilkins to take Risner ? My point is simple, until the draft has moved passed the 28th pick, very difficult to know just how one might feel. nah not angry (i am just an aussie noob) If not Dexter I would prefer Cody Ford 1st round or Kaleb McGary 2nd round. Still i trust TT, he has made the right choices previously and he prolly forgotten more about football than i have learned. OT's always rise in the draft. Around the 3rd most valued position in the draft. Cody Ford started out a second round projection. Currently, they say he could go top 20. Being able to play OT and OG has really helped him climb up. Damn good resume when you have blocked for Baker Mayfield and Murray.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 16, 2019 6:40:05 GMT -7
Lawyer talk can be good and bad....... Stirring up the goalie....too funny. Stir this one, Pitt gets swept out by NYI...... Does Montreal allow you to talk about teams that actually make the playoffs ? Depends on what I am saying, and to whom.......
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Post by NoMoreChillies on Apr 16, 2019 22:05:37 GMT -7
nah not angry (i am just an aussie noob) If not Dexter I would prefer Cody Ford 1st round or Kaleb McGary 2nd round. Still i trust TT, he has made the right choices previously and he prolly forgotten more about football than i have learned. OT's always rise in the draft. Around the 3rd most valued position in the draft. Cody Ford started out a second round projection. Currently, they say he could go top 20. Being able to play OT and OG has really helped him climb up. Damn good resume when you have blocked for Baker Mayfield and Murray. and kept Nick Bosa in check
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