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Post by afboltfan on Jan 19, 2023 10:29:32 GMT -7
I seriously want to know what the heck happened to Spiller... Did he just suck so bad in practice that he didn't get any reps? Its weird...
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 19, 2023 10:40:23 GMT -7
Ok so you guys want Gilman and Roundtree to start. SuperBowl Bound I want Quandre Diggs ad Josh Jacobs, but we cant just ignore the cap situation we are in.
What are we the 98 Broncos?
The reality is we probably roll with Gilman and see what we get in the draft and Undrafted FA.
I understand. You want Bandy to play Linebacker and Storm Norton at Safety. Paychecks Approved !
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 19, 2023 10:44:58 GMT -7
Ok so you guys want Gilman and Roundtree to start. SuperBowl Bound You want Herbert to keep throwing to our current crop of degenerates? Nobody takes RB's in the first round anymore. WR1 is so much more important than Safety in the first IMHO. Travis Etienne Jr. at Jacksonville, who just ran for 109 yards against us was a first round draft pick. People who think RB's are not taken in the first round are the reason we are eliminated from the playoffs. I know you want to make out with Roundtree, but he's not the answer.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 19, 2023 10:47:43 GMT -7
You want Herbert to keep throwing to our current crop of degenerates? Nobody takes RB's in the first round anymore. WR1 is so much more important than Safety in the first IMHO. Travis Etienne Jr. at Jacksonville, who just ran for 109 yards against us was a first round draft pick. People who think RB's are not taken in the first round are the reason we are eliminated from the playoffs. I know you want to make out with Roundtree, but he's not the answer. WR > RB in the first and I'm shocked you don't agree. You can make out with Carter and Bandy as either one of them will be WR 1 when Williams inevitably gets injured again and KA gets double covered.
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Post by lightsout42 on Jan 19, 2023 10:54:32 GMT -7
We have a real cap issue and many holes to fill on the cheap. I think they’re going to have to structure this draft with a focus on PON because we will lose some people we like and won’t have the cap space to replace them. TT will need to dumpster dive with Staley and find a new Callahan and probably Pipkins.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 19, 2023 10:56:53 GMT -7
Travis Etienne Jr. at Jacksonville, who just ran for 109 yards against us was a first round draft pick. People who think RB's are not taken in the first round are the reason we are eliminated from the playoffs. I know you want to make out with Roundtree, but he's not the answer. WR > RB in the first and I'm shocked you don't agree. You can make out with Carter and Bandy as either one of them will be WR 1 when Williams inevitably gets injured again and KA gets double covered. I have to make out with Bandy then. Carter's contract is up so bye bye time for him. Travis Etienne Jr. played at Clemson and was terrific, very touted in the draft. I think there was only one other RB in the first and it was Najee Harris the starting RB for Pittsburgh. If you had to pick two, that's pretty damn good ones to do it with. I am SO over not being able to run the football you have absolutely no idea. Anyone posting anti-running game ideas on here are instantly assigned to the moat. Its years of running BS, and its ridiculous. You have to weigh our needs, NOT what is more valued of a position. I think it is another very heavy loaded WR class again this year.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 19, 2023 10:57:56 GMT -7
We have a real cap issue and many holes to fill on the cheap. I think they’re going to have to structure this draft with a focus on PON because we will lose some people we like and won’t have the cap space to replace them. TT will need to dumpster dive with Staley and find a new Callahan and probably Pipkins. Nooooooooooooooooooooo, not my Callahan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I lovey Callahan !!
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 19, 2023 12:01:04 GMT -7
WR > RB in the first and I'm shocked you don't agree. You can make out with Carter and Bandy as either one of them will be WR 1 when Williams inevitably gets injured again and KA gets double covered. I have to make out with Bandy then. Carter's contract is up so bye bye time for him. Travis Etienne Jr. played at Clemson and was terrific, very touted in the draft. I think there was only one other RB in the first and it was Najee Harris the starting RB for Pittsburgh. If you had to pick two, that's pretty damn good ones to do it with. I am SO over not being able to run the football you have absolutely no idea. Anyone posting anti-running game ideas on here are instantly assigned to the moat. Its years of running BS, and its ridiculous. You have to weigh our needs, NOT what is more valued of a position. I think it is another very heavy loaded WR class again this year. Yea we need better WR targets for Herbert... Plain and simple, you're overvaluing our need for a RB. Ekeler rushed for 915 yards on only 204 carries and got 12 TD's!! 12 TD's is top 5 in the league for all RB's. The issue is not the run game the issue is bad OC playcalling and not valuing the run which should be addressed. On the other hand Herbert was 2nd in the league in passing and we don't have a single 1000 yard receiver... Same argument could be made for playcalling but I argue Ekeler is a beast and Joshua Kelley has turned into a decent RB2. We need a WR more and I'm offended your judgement is so clouded.
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Post by lazylightning on Jan 19, 2023 12:43:22 GMT -7
I have to make out with Bandy then. Carter's contract is up so bye bye time for him. Travis Etienne Jr. played at Clemson and was terrific, very touted in the draft. I think there was only one other RB in the first and it was Najee Harris the starting RB for Pittsburgh. If you had to pick two, that's pretty damn good ones to do it with. I am SO over not being able to run the football you have absolutely no idea. Anyone posting anti-running game ideas on here are instantly assigned to the moat. Its years of running BS, and its ridiculous. You have to weigh our needs, NOT what is more valued of a position. I think it is another very heavy loaded WR class again this year. Yea we need better WR targets for Herbert... Plain and simple, you're overvaluing our need for a RB. Ekeler rushed for 915 yards on only 204 carries and got 12 TD's!! 12 TD's is top 5 in the league for all RB's. The issue is not the run game the issue is bad OC playcalling and not valuing the run which should be addressed. On the other hand Herbert was 2nd in the league in passing and we don't have a single 1000 yard receiver... Same argument could be made for playcalling but I argue Ekeler is a beast and Joshua Kelley has turned into a decent RB2. We need a WR more and I'm offended your judgement is so clouded. With KA or MW off the field, the other is double/triple defended and the passing attack is stifled. I was hoping that Palmer or Parham would step up. They haven't. Is that play calling or lack of talent?
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 19, 2023 12:51:56 GMT -7
Yea we need better WR targets for Herbert... Plain and simple, you're overvaluing our need for a RB. Ekeler rushed for 915 yards on only 204 carries and got 12 TD's!! 12 TD's is top 5 in the league for all RB's. The issue is not the run game the issue is bad OC playcalling and not valuing the run which should be addressed. On the other hand Herbert was 2nd in the league in passing and we don't have a single 1000 yard receiver... Same argument could be made for playcalling but I argue Ekeler is a beast and Joshua Kelley has turned into a decent RB2. We need a WR more and I'm offended your judgement is so clouded. With KA or MW off the field, the other is double/triple defended and the passing attack is stifled. I was hoping that Palmer or Parham would step up. They haven't. Is that play calling or lack of talent? Palmer had a decent season but not enough to be considered a WR1. Maybe a WR2 next year if we can get a good OC... We'll need to replace KA and if Mike Williams keeps getting hurt or if his vertebrae fracture is more serious then anticipated we'll need to replace him too. Austin Ekeler is 27 years old, he's good, we're good. Hebert needs weapons. IMHO its more than just playcalling.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 19, 2023 13:07:43 GMT -7
I have to make out with Bandy then. Carter's contract is up so bye bye time for him. Travis Etienne Jr. played at Clemson and was terrific, very touted in the draft. I think there was only one other RB in the first and it was Najee Harris the starting RB for Pittsburgh. If you had to pick two, that's pretty damn good ones to do it with. I am SO over not being able to run the football you have absolutely no idea. Anyone posting anti-running game ideas on here are instantly assigned to the moat. Its years of running BS, and its ridiculous. You have to weigh our needs, NOT what is more valued of a position. I think it is another very heavy loaded WR class again this year. Yea we need better WR targets for Herbert... Plain and simple, you're overvaluing our need for a RB. Ekeler rushed for 915 yards on only 204 carries and got 12 TD's!! 12 TD's is top 5 in the league for all RB's. The issue is not the run game the issue is bad OC playcalling and not valuing the run which should be addressed. On the other hand Herbert was 2nd in the league in passing and we don't have a single 1000 yard receiver... Same argument could be made for playcalling but I argue Ekeler is a beast and Joshua Kelley has turned into a decent RB2. We need a WR more and I'm offended your judgement is so clouded. If you in any way shape or form tried to say our run game was good, there is no hope for you whatsoever. Last in the league ? Could not run out a 27-0 lead ??
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 19, 2023 13:55:32 GMT -7
Yea we need better WR targets for Herbert... Plain and simple, you're overvaluing our need for a RB. Ekeler rushed for 915 yards on only 204 carries and got 12 TD's!! 12 TD's is top 5 in the league for all RB's. The issue is not the run game the issue is bad OC playcalling and not valuing the run which should be addressed. On the other hand Herbert was 2nd in the league in passing and we don't have a single 1000 yard receiver... Same argument could be made for playcalling but I argue Ekeler is a beast and Joshua Kelley has turned into a decent RB2. We need a WR more and I'm offended your judgement is so clouded. If you in any way shape or form tried to say our run game was good, there is no hope for you whatsoever. Last in the league ? Could not run out a 27-0 lead ?? 9th in the league for rushing is not last... 915 yards with 12 TD's is not last. Nowhere near it. Could not run a 27-0 lead? Yea that's playcalling. Are you messing with me or do you really believe that?
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Post by sonorajim on Jan 19, 2023 13:58:26 GMT -7
Ekeler and Kelley are good RBs. I'm not against another but do not see the position as a top need. Low/ bottom run production was IMO play structure and calls. Our OL and backs are not that pathetic. Regardless, the new OC should be in place and part of the decision making in FA and draft. We need to be closer to 50/50 run / pass effective plays. How isn't the issue for this fan. Just do it Brandon. Changes at OL coach, RB coach, run game coordinator may be in our future once the OC is set.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 19, 2023 14:30:46 GMT -7
If you in any way shape or form tried to say our run game was good, there is no hope for you whatsoever. Last in the league ? Could not run out a 27-0 lead ?? 9th in the league for rushing is not last... 915 yards with 12 TD's is not last. Nowhere near it. Could not run a 27-0 lead? Yea that's playcalling. Are you messing with me or do you really believe that? The Chargers were 30th in the league in rushing. Are you afternoon drinking ?
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 19, 2023 14:32:36 GMT -7
Ekeler and Kelley are good RBs. I'm not against another but do not see the position as a top need. Low/ bottom run production was IMO play structure and calls. Our OL and backs are not that pathetic. Regardless, the new OC should be in place and part of the decision making in FA and draft. We need to be closer to 50/50 run / pass effective plays. How isn't the issue for this fan. Just do it Brandon. Changes at OL coach, RB coach, run game coordinator may be in our future once the OC is set. I am worried that our OL can pass block, but can't run block. Is there anything to that Jim ?
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