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Post by afboltfan on Feb 10, 2023 8:27:09 GMT -7
No Ekeler is not overrated at all. Parham is good in the end zone but we need more and he is honestly 1 more bad concussion away from retirement. Much like Palmer is not mentioned when we talk about WR, Parham is not mentioned with TE's. They're just not enough.
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Post by lazylightning on Feb 10, 2023 8:42:29 GMT -7
I just saw a neat article about how TE's are getting way undervalued. It's crazy because it is such a good TE class this year. For proof, the article examined how many yards TE's got this year, and it was crazy low. Of course there is Kelce, but no other tight end broke 1000 yards this year. The 10th best TE didn't even break 600 yards. Is Parnham no longer being considered as a up and comer? Last year was no a comeback year as we all were hoping. Again, was that Parnham or the play calling? I would be OK with a solid TE in the first.
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Post by shadowbolt on Feb 10, 2023 8:48:28 GMT -7
Agreed on Parham, he has some talent but it doesn't look like he's built for the NFL. Honestly we do have needs at all the skill positions on offense, I'm not dead set on WR in the 1st round with this class. Weapons are weapons, if Moore is any good he'll find a way to unbalance the game in our favor. WR looks like the biggest skill need right now, but the relative talent at other positions looks better... and we have needs at those positions. If Bijan is there I'm taking him.
Bear in mind that TT and Staley could still go defense...
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 10, 2023 8:49:27 GMT -7
Is Parnham no longer being considered as a up and comer? Last year was no a comeback year as we all were hoping. Again, was that Parnham or the play calling? I would be OK with a solid TE in the first. Yep, he had minimal success this past season. Not against TE in the 1st, but WR, RB, OT, DE, Edge, NT.....all could be in play. *watch out for CB as well
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Post by moekid on Feb 10, 2023 9:57:05 GMT -7
Agreed on Parham, he has some talent but it doesn't look like he's built for the NFL. Honestly we do have needs at all the skill positions on offense, I'm not dead set on WR in the 1st round with this class. Weapons are weapons, if Moore is any good he'll find a way to unbalance the game in our favor. WR looks like the biggest skill need right now, but the relative talent at other positions looks better... and we have needs at those positions. If Bijan is there I'm taking him. Bear in mind that TT and Staley could still go defense... Parham looks like he has all the physical tools, size, hands, shifty in the open field, but he’s too fragile to count on.
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Post by lazylightning on Feb 10, 2023 10:09:34 GMT -7
Last year was no a comeback year as we all were hoping. Again, was that Parnham or the play calling? I would be OK with a solid TE in the first. Yep, he had minimal success this past season. Not against TE in the 1st, but WR, RB, OT, DE, Edge, NT.....all could be in play. *watch out for CB as well I don't think OT or Edge will be considered in the 1st. Pipkins, Bosa, & Mack are all staying. We should know for sure well before the draft.
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Post by sdc on Feb 10, 2023 11:37:01 GMT -7
Yep, he had minimal success this past season. Not against TE in the 1st, but WR, RB, OT, DE, Edge, NT.....all could be in play. *watch out for CB as well I don't think OT or Edge will be considered in the 1st. Pipkins, Bosa, & Mack are all staying. We should know for sure well before the draft. Pipkins is a FA. They Chargers ultimately won't be the deciders on where Trey ends up.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 10, 2023 11:50:47 GMT -7
I just saw a neat article about how TE's are getting way undervalued. It's crazy because it is such a good TE class this year. For proof, the article examined how many yards TE's got this year, and it was crazy low. Of course there is Kelce, but no other tight end broke 1000 yards this year. The 10th best TE didn't even break 600 yards. Is Parnham no longer being considered as a up and comer? I consider his head scrambled.
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 10, 2023 12:59:48 GMT -7
Last year was no a comeback year as we all were hoping. Again, was that Parnham or the play calling? I would be OK with a solid TE in the first. Yep, he had minimal success this past season. Not against TE in the 1st, but WR, RB, OT, DE, Edge, NT.....all could be in play. *watch out for CB as well There’s only 1 RB I’d consider taking in the first round. My bet is edge, TE, or WR unless they don’t re-sign Pip, then almost certainly an OT.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 10, 2023 13:36:23 GMT -7
Yep, he had minimal success this past season. Not against TE in the 1st, but WR, RB, OT, DE, Edge, NT.....all could be in play. *watch out for CB as well There’s only 1 RB I’d consider taking in the first round. My bet is edge, TE, or WR unless they don’t re-sign Pip, then almost certainly an OT. The other first rounder reminds me of Ekeler !!! We need the downhill runner.
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Post by sdc on Feb 10, 2023 13:42:33 GMT -7
One thing that we need to take into account is the baggage that we all carry from the disappointing 2022 season. I for one, had huge expectations for this team after its great offseason. The shit show that was our season carries some scars, at least for me. Optimism has turned into pessimism regarding being able to field a healthy team week in and week out. Staley while showing some growth has a long way to go, the dude is a walking Cost/Benefit analysis. This same roster has gone from dynamic 8 months ago to fragile, old, and overpaid. I'm sure the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Hell, even my expectations of Herbert are tempered now compared to the past two off seasons.
I have only ambivalence for this team at this point. I can't see much of anything changing that over the next 6 months. I hope they do well but winning a SB isn't something I expect anymore. After living in North Georgia as made me look at things differently. Atlanta is a sewer of a sports town just like San Diego. Fair weather fans, tepid ownership, franchises leaving. We've been here 17 years and for the most part it's the same old song and dance that I grew up with in SD. The last couple of years have been different. The Braves winning it all in 2021 and the Dawgs going back to back were awesome and we all celebrated. But at the end of the day, it doens't matter in the big picture. The quality and happiness of my life is the exact same as it would be without those titles.
Maybe its getting older but Chargering has much less of an impact on me that it did 20 years ago.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 10, 2023 13:46:27 GMT -7
One thing that we need to take into account is the baggage that we all carry from the disappointing 2022 season. I for one, had huge expectations for this team after its great offseason. The shit show that was our season carries some scars, at least for me. Optimism has turned into pessimism regarding being able to field a healthy team week in and week out. Staley while showing some growth has a long way to go, the dude is a walking Cost/Benefit analysis. This same roster has gone from dynamic 8 months ago to fragile, old, and overpaid. I'm sure the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Hell, even my expectations of Herbert are tempered now compared to the past two off seasons. I have only ambivalence for this team at this point. I can't see much of anything changing that over the next 6 months. I hope they do well but winning a SB isn't something I expect anymore. After living in North Georgia as made me look at things differently. Atlanta is a sewer of a sports town just like San Diego. Fair weather fans, tepid ownership, franchises leaving. We've been here 17 years and for the most part it's the same old song and dance that I grew up with in SD. The last couple of years have been different. The Braves winning it all in 2021 and the Dawgs going back to back were awesome and we all celebrated. But at the end of the day, it doens't matter in the big picture. The quality and happiness of my life is the exact same as it would be without those titles. Maybe its getting older but Chargering has much less of an impact on me that it did 20 years ago. The reason we stay with them is: we get defeated by the end of the season, time heals all wounds, then hope springs eternal for the new season. This is our Chargers fan cycle.
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Post by lazylightning on Feb 10, 2023 14:03:42 GMT -7
Yep, he had minimal success this past season. Not against TE in the 1st, but WR, RB, OT, DE, Edge, NT.....all could be in play. *watch out for CB as well There’s only 1 RB I’d consider taking in the first round. My bet is edge, TE, or WR unless they don’t re-sign Pip, then almost certainly an OT. I am not convinced. Salyer would alleviate the need to use a first round OT. The highly rated ones will probably not be around at 21 anyways.
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 10, 2023 14:04:54 GMT -7
There’s only 1 RB I’d consider taking in the first round. My bet is edge, TE, or WR unless they don’t re-sign Pip, then almost certainly an OT. I am not convinced. Salyer would alleviate the need to use a first round OT. The highly rated ones will probably not be around at 21 anyways. Salyer will replace Feiler.
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Post by moekid on Feb 10, 2023 19:33:22 GMT -7
One thing that we need to take into account is the baggage that we all carry from the disappointing 2022 season. I for one, had huge expectations for this team after its great offseason. The shit show that was our season carries some scars, at least for me. Optimism has turned into pessimism regarding being able to field a healthy team week in and week out. Staley while showing some growth has a long way to go, the dude is a walking Cost/Benefit analysis. This same roster has gone from dynamic 8 months ago to fragile, old, and overpaid. I'm sure the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Hell, even my expectations of Herbert are tempered now compared to the past two off seasons. I have only ambivalence for this team at this point. I can't see much of anything changing that over the next 6 months. I hope they do well but winning a SB isn't something I expect anymore. After living in North Georgia as made me look at things differently. Atlanta is a sewer of a sports town just like San Diego. Fair weather fans, tepid ownership, franchises leaving. We've been here 17 years and for the most part it's the same old song and dance that I grew up with in SD. The last couple of years have been different. The Braves winning it all in 2021 and the Dawgs going back to back were awesome and we all celebrated. But at the end of the day, it doens't matter in the big picture. The quality and happiness of my life is the exact same as it would be without those titles. Maybe its getting older but Chargering has much less of an impact on me that it did 20 years ago. The reason we stay with them is: we get defeated by the end of the season, time heals all wounds, then hope springs eternal for the new season. This is our Chargers fan cycle. At a certain point hope doesn’t come back. Just the hard cold reality that can’t be pushed away. People that know me or just find out I’m a Charger fan feel bad for me. It’s human empathy. They see the curse play out. The JaX game was just off the charts worse. As SDC said, expectations were through the roof at the start of the season. I’m at the point where I don’t trust anybody on the team. I said trade them all, get a boatload of picks and start over. Either way, it just doesn’t matter
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