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Post by woodeye on Mar 21, 2019 7:03:02 GMT -7
love some Dexter Lawrence big boy will command double teams and free up Bosa/Ingram/Jones Would also love to get Cody Ford in 2nd round (hope he falls). Dude handled Nick Bosa easily and will do the same to others in NFL Its all about trenches. NMC, I would draft Ford at 28 over Lawrence.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 21, 2019 7:05:42 GMT -7
love some Dexter Lawrence big boy will command double teams and free up Bosa/Ingram/Jones Would also love to get Cody Ford in 2nd round (hope he falls). Dude handled Nick Bosa easily and will do the same to others in NFL Its all about trenches. NMC, I would draft Ford at 28 over Lawrence. As would I, but likely Ford is long gone......
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Post by ohioboltfan on Mar 21, 2019 9:04:37 GMT -7
NMC, I would draft Ford at 28 over Lawrence. As would I, but likely Ford is long gone...... Woodeye and Frozen, I see both of you aren't as high on Dexter Lawrence as I am. Is it because you don't think his position is our biggest need, or that he isn't that good of a player to take compared to other players of different positions likely available? (I think a massive body plugging the middle of our D-line would be perfect, and Lawrence checks nearly all the boxes.) Much respect and appreciation for your draft expertise and insight!
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Post by woodeye on Mar 21, 2019 9:48:03 GMT -7
As would I, but likely Ford is long gone...... Woodeye and Frozen, I see both of you aren't as high on Dexter Lawrence as I am. Is it because you don't think his position is our biggest need, or that he isn't that good of a player to take compared to other players of different positions likely available? (I think a massive body plugging the middle of our D-line would be perfect, and Lawrence checks nearly all the boxes.) Much respect and appreciation for your draft expertise and insight! Mebane's back. Two more years. Tipped the scales IMV.
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Post by sonorajim on Mar 21, 2019 10:18:36 GMT -7
Woodeye and Frozen, I see both of you aren't as high on Dexter Lawrence as I am. Is it because you don't think his position is our biggest need, or that he isn't that good of a player to take compared to other players of different positions likely available? (I think a massive body plugging the middle of our D-line would be perfect, and Lawrence checks nearly all the boxes.) Much respect and appreciation for your draft expertise and insight! Mebane's back. Two more years. Tipped the scales IMV. Good mentor for Dex. Mebane plays @ 30-35 snaps per game. With Dex we don't have to surrender the middle when Meb is out. Together they should dominate short yardage plays. Not a bad situation IMO.
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Post by sonorajim on Mar 21, 2019 10:52:11 GMT -7
NMC, I would draft Ford at 28 over Lawrence. As would I, but likely Ford is long gone...... Ford is big, has good feet, poor hand technique. Dex is a stud v run, quick feet, ho-hum pass rush. Coin toss. Aside from that, there are a bunch of players I'd take first. Most will be gone but maybe not all. There's some depth in this draft at OL & DT. TT doesn't have to lock in on one or the other at 28.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 21, 2019 20:46:49 GMT -7
As would I, but likely Ford is long gone...... Woodeye and Frozen, I see both of you aren't as high on Dexter Lawrence as I am. Is it because you don't think his position is our biggest need, or that he isn't that good of a player to take compared to other players of different positions likely available? (I think a massive body plugging the middle of our D-line would be perfect, and Lawrence checks nearly all the boxes.) Much respect and appreciation for your draft expertise and insight! I believe there will better players available....
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 21, 2019 20:49:18 GMT -7
As would I, but likely Ford is long gone...... Ford is big, has good feet, poor hand technique. Dex is a stud v run, quick feet, ho-hum pass rush. Coin toss. Aside from that, there are a bunch of players I'd take first. Most will be gone but maybe not all. There's some depth in this draft at OL & DT. TT doesn't have to lock in on one or the other at 28. Greedy @ CB, or Fant @ TE, or Harry @ WR or or or......there will be plenty of options, as there are plenty of needs.
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Post by NoMoreChillies on Mar 22, 2019 1:56:37 GMT -7
As would I, but likely Ford is long gone...... Ford is big, has good feet, poor hand technique. Dex is a stud v run, quick feet, ho-hum pass rush. Coin toss. Aside from that, there are a bunch of players I'd take first. Most will be gone but maybe not all. There's some depth in this draft at OL & DT. TT doesn't have to lock in on one or the other at 28. Ya i'm thinking we dont need a pass rush DT, we need a space eater NT. Already got one the of the best Rush D-Lines, lets get them boys some easy 1on1 matchups. I hate seeing Bosa / Ingram get double teamed, so if teams gonna do that we need a guy that makes em pay for it IE: Dexter. What i read on Cody Ford was pretty negative, that made me think he might fall.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 22, 2019 3:19:43 GMT -7
Ford is big, has good feet, poor hand technique. Dex is a stud v run, quick feet, ho-hum pass rush. Coin toss. Aside from that, there are a bunch of players I'd take first. Most will be gone but maybe not all. There's some depth in this draft at OL & DT. TT doesn't have to lock in on one or the other at 28. Ya i'm thinking we dont need a pass rush DT, we need a space eater NT. Already got one the of the best Rush D-Lines, lets get them boys some easy 1on1 matchups. I hate seeing Bosa / Ingram get double teamed, so if teams gonna do that we need a guy that makes em pay for it IE: Dexter. What i read on Cody Ford was pretty negative, that made me think he might fall. The pundits are picking nits. Extraordinary athleticism. My comp is Jason Peters. |
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Post by boltnut on Mar 22, 2019 16:26:23 GMT -7
Ford is big, has good feet, poor hand technique. Dex is a stud v run, quick feet, ho-hum pass rush. Coin toss. Aside from that, there are a bunch of players I'd take first. Most will be gone but maybe not all. There's some depth in this draft at OL & DT. TT doesn't have to lock in on one or the other at 28. Ya i'm thinking we dont need a pass rush DT, we need a space eater NT. Already got one the of the best Rush D-Lines, lets get them boys some easy 1on1 matchups. I hate seeing Bosa / Ingram get double teamed, so if teams gonna do that we need a guy that makes em pay for it IE: Dexter. What i read on Cody Ford was pretty negative, that made me think he might fall. I'm with you, Chile. Dexter @ 1-tech and Justin Jones/Darius Philon @ 3-tech and we become one of the best rushing defenses in the NFL. We make other teams one dimensional. We can pin our ears back and go get the QB. Mebane is a stop-gap on a short contract. I watched 3 games on Ford. While he is solid run-blocking, I didn't see many times where he had to hold his own against speed rushers for very long. Not a 1st-rounder IMO. I suppose there could be a perceived BPA that drops out of the top-20 (ala Derwin)... but positions such as TE, LB, WR are just not a huge need. And those positions (LB/WR) are pretty deep. You can get some 3rd-5th rounders that will complete those positions very well. As far as 1-tech DT's go... there's a big fall-off after Dexter. Saunders and Mack are solid but definitely not at Dexter's level. In fact 1-tech is so thin, I see both Saunders (2nd) and Mack (3rd) getting over-drafted. Watch those 2 get drafted with more talented players still on the board. Who gets Dexter if we don't draft him @28...? The Patriots.
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Post by BoKnows on Mar 22, 2019 16:37:32 GMT -7
Thank you for posting, Nutty. So long as Hyatt can contribute, it is a very solid draft IMHO. I like Dexta. We would need pure penetrator for the DT rotation, maybe Philon or McGill. Abrams and Rapp have similar grades. I see two different players. I will summarize in the form of comps. Abrams - Derwin Rapp - Weddle I see Rapp as more capable of snaps at FS. Abrams is a great player. He really demands attention. I would say they are both ballers. Good stuff. I'm hoping Philon gets re-signed. If he doesn't, my mock may have to change to include 3-tech. I've watched some Rapp tape... early on. Wasn't that impressed. If you've got impressive tape on him... share. Abram ran a 4.45 at the combine. He has almost identical speed/size ratios to Earl Thomas. He'll project nicely to FS. Watkins is temporary starter, depth after 2019. Abrams is a box safety. Good player but he isn't a single high safety. Rapp I agree fits better there. Don't really care how fast they are. Marvel Tell isn't as talented but he has length at 6'2", good speed and and has great cone and shuttle times and he is a single high FS. Bradley's type of DB. |
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Post by woodeye on Mar 22, 2019 16:44:55 GMT -7
Nutty, maybe you are not aware.
Philon signed with AZ yesterday.
There is plenty of speculation about the ramifications.
I will stick with why he is gone.
I believe the Chargers desire a 3TECH who is more well rounded.
That will involve an early draft pick.
Christian Wilkins, long gone would be an ideal fit.
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Post by boltnut on Mar 22, 2019 17:07:55 GMT -7
Nutty, maybe you are not aware. Philon signed with AZ yesterday. There is plenty of speculation about the ramifications. I will stick with why he is gone. I believe the Chargers desire a 3TECH who is more well rounded. That will involve an early draft pick. Christian Wilkins, long gone would be an ideal fit. Well, that's unfortunate. I liked Philon. OK, mid/late round 3-tech it is. Much deeper than 1-tech.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 22, 2019 17:26:27 GMT -7
Nutty, maybe you are not aware. Philon signed with AZ yesterday. There is plenty of speculation about the ramifications. I will stick with why he is gone. I believe the Chargers desire a 3TECH who is more well rounded. That will involve an early draft pick. Christian Wilkins, long gone would be an ideal fit. Well, that's unfortunate. I liked Philon. OK, mid/late round 3-tech it is. Much deeper than 1-tech. I would like it if TT did not slap a red flag on Trysten Hill. There are indeed lots of mid round choices. We need presence from our 3TECHs. |
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