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Post by woodeye on Mar 22, 2019 18:15:23 GMT -7
Maxx Crosby killed it at his ProDay today. I know he has been on your radar Nutty. There is tremendous position versatility with this EDGE player. He was even asked to do DB drills.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 22, 2019 19:58:24 GMT -7
He is not fast or strong. The strength can be improved. Sounds like he could be a good 3rd round pick that would be contributing early and starting by year 2 or 3.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 23, 2019 1:37:51 GMT -7
I am seeing a much more athletic version of Emanuel,
with the added value of showing potential in coverage.
LOL that you are all trying to get me with so called football takes.
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Post by boltnut on Mar 23, 2019 10:10:50 GMT -7
I'm hoping Philon gets re-signed. If he doesn't, my mock may have to change to include 3-tech. I've watched some Rapp tape... early on. Wasn't that impressed. If you've got impressive tape on him... share. Abram ran a 4.45 at the combine. He has almost identical speed/size ratios to Earl Thomas. He'll project nicely to FS. Watkins is temporary starter, depth after 2019. Abrams is a box safety. Good player but he isn't a single high safety. Rapp I agree fits better there. Don't really care how fast they are. Marvel Tell isn't as talented but he has length at 6'2", good speed and and has great cone and shuttle times and he is a single high FS. Bradley's type of DB. Earl Thomas was a "box safety" at Texas. That's what colleges do with their athletic playmakers... put them closer to the LOS to get them more involved. It doesn't mean they can't play FS. Guys with smaller bodies and greater speed (Earl Thomas, Jonathan Abram) transition to FS in the pros. If they don't, they don't last long.
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Post by boltnut on Mar 23, 2019 10:19:58 GMT -7
Maxx Crosby killed it at his ProDay today. I know he has been on your radar Nutty. There is tremendous position versatility with this EDGE player. He was even asked to do DB drills. For anyone who has actually watched his tape (not just highlights or reading articles) they will see that he has explosion and change of direction skills. He's kind of lanky and is still growing into his body. In a couple of years (lifting and eating right) he could be very good. Working him out in coverage drills indicates that some teams see him as a 3-4 OLB. I think his best bet is to put on 15-20 lbs of muscle and rush the QB. Because he'll have to develop, he probably won't go until the 4th round or later. Risk/reward.
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Post by Zanepb on Mar 24, 2019 0:45:05 GMT -7
Well Philon signed with the Cards so i'm hoping one of the two Clemson DTs falls to pick 28.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 24, 2019 2:55:04 GMT -7
Abrams is a box safety. Good player but he isn't a single high safety. Rapp I agree fits better there. Don't really care how fast they are. Marvel Tell isn't as talented but he has length at 6'2", good speed and and has great cone and shuttle times and he is a single high FS. Bradley's type of DB. Earl Thomas was a "box safety" at Texas. That's what colleges do with their athletic playmakers... put them closer to the LOS to get them more involved. It doesn't mean they can't play FS. Guys with smaller bodies and greater speed (Earl Thomas, Jonathan Abram) transition to FS in the pros. If they don't, they don't last long. You mention Earl Thomas. Abrams does not comp to Earl Thomas. There is Harrison Smith. There's a good comp to Taylor Rapp. Of course another factor is the types of coverages LAC plays. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 24, 2019 3:57:18 GMT -7
I am seeing a much more athletic version of Emanuel,with the added value of showing potential in coverage. LOL that you are all trying to get me with so called football takes. I can see that with a 13 year old bull dog on Xanax.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 24, 2019 3:58:43 GMT -7
Abrams is a box safety. Good player but he isn't a single high safety. Rapp I agree fits better there. Don't really care how fast they are. Marvel Tell isn't as talented but he has length at 6'2", good speed and and has great cone and shuttle times and he is a single high FS. Bradley's type of DB. Earl Thomas was a "box safety" at Texas. That's what colleges do with their athletic playmakers... put them closer to the LOS to get them more involved. It doesn't mean they can't play FS. Guys with smaller bodies and greater speed (Earl Thomas, Jonathan Abram) transition to FS in the pros. If they don't, they don't last long. Addae Approves this message.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 24, 2019 8:40:36 GMT -7
Abrams is a box safety. Good player but he isn't a single high safety. Rapp I agree fits better there. Don't really care how fast they are. Marvel Tell isn't as talented but he has length at 6'2", good speed and and has great cone and shuttle times and he is a single high FS. Bradley's type of DB. Earl Thomas was a "box safety" at Texas. That's what colleges do with their athletic playmakers... put them closer to the LOS to get them more involved. It doesn't mean they can't play FS. Guys with smaller bodies and greater speed (Earl Thomas, Jonathan Abram) transition to FS in the pros. If they don't, they don't last long. chopper, here.
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Post by boltnut on Mar 24, 2019 9:43:59 GMT -7
Go back and watch Earl Thomas' college tape. He played everywhere. In the slot, on TE's, RB's out of the backfield. Wherever they needed him. He did not play a typical FS centerfield. In fact, the NFL (and Gus Bradley) hadn't employed that FS strategy yet.
Watch their tape... Jonathan Abram did a lot of the same stuff at Mississippi State that Earl Thomas did at Texas. The other good Earl Thomas comp is Darnell Savage. Quick to read the run and attack the LOS. Great speed. Cover TE's, slot, RB's... Versatile combo safeties with 4.45 speed. Players like this are essential in helping beat the Patriots.
Taylor Rapp's 40 will be an April Fool's joke. Slow getting to deep help caused the Huskies to move Rapp closer to the LOS after his freshman year. If he can't handle college speed, what makes anyone believe he can help deep against Antonio Brown, Tyreek Hill, and Tyrel Williams...?
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Post by woodeye on Mar 24, 2019 9:49:10 GMT -7
Go back and watch Earl Thomas' college tape. He played everywhere. In the slot, on TE's, RB's out of the backfield. Wherever they needed him. He did not play a typical FS centerfield. In fact, the NFL (and Gus Bradley) hadn't employed that FS strategy yet. Watch their tape... Jonathan Abram did a lot of the same stuff at Mississippi State that Earl Thomas did at Texas. The other good Earl Thomas comp is Darnell Savage. Quick to read the run and attack the LOS. Great speed. Cover TE's, slot, RB's... Versatile combo safeties with 4.45 speed. Players like this are essential in helping beat the Patriots. Taylor Rapp's 40 will be an April Fool's joke. Slow getting to deep help caused the Huskies to move Rapp closer to the LOS after his freshman year. If he can't handle college speed, what makes anyone believe he can help deep against Antonio Brown, Tyreek Hill, and Tyrel Williams...? You left out the part about Rapp being faster than Tashaun Gipson. I will wait and see about Rapp's forty time. I remain convinced that Rapp is a better prospect and a better fit for LAC. Abrams has issues, in spite of his athleticism. He is inconsistent in his tackling. He does not read plays like Rapp or routes for that matter.
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Post by boltnut on Mar 24, 2019 13:10:49 GMT -7
Go back and watch Earl Thomas' college tape. He played everywhere. In the slot, on TE's, RB's out of the backfield. Wherever they needed him. He did not play a typical FS centerfield. In fact, the NFL (and Gus Bradley) hadn't employed that FS strategy yet. Watch their tape... Jonathan Abram did a lot of the same stuff at Mississippi State that Earl Thomas did at Texas. The other good Earl Thomas comp is Darnell Savage. Quick to read the run and attack the LOS. Great speed. Cover TE's, slot, RB's... Versatile combo safeties with 4.45 speed. Players like this are essential in helping beat the Patriots. Taylor Rapp's 40 will be an April Fool's joke. Slow getting to deep help caused the Huskies to move Rapp closer to the LOS after his freshman year. If he can't handle college speed, what makes anyone believe he can help deep against Antonio Brown, Tyreek Hill, and Tyrel Williams...? I will wait and see about Rapp's forty time. I remain convinced that Rapp is a better prospect and a better fit for LAC. Abrams has issues, in spite of his athleticism. He is inconsistent in his tackling. He does not read plays like Rapp or routes for that matter. Gipson ran a 4.52 40 at the combine. Rapp will not be that fast. His last recorded 40 was a 4.74 out of high school. Rapp is very good short area quickness. I worry about his long speed. Even Eric Weddle had 4.48 40. And he went in the 2nd round. No to Rapp in the 1st round.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 24, 2019 13:21:50 GMT -7
You left out the part about Rapp being faster than Tashaun Gipson. I will wait and see about Rapp's forty time. I remain convinced that Rapp is a better prospect and a better fit for LAC. Abrams has issues, in spite of his athleticism. He is inconsistent in his tackling. He does not read plays like Rapp or routes for that matter. Gipson ran a 4.52 40 at the combine. Rapp will not be that fast. His last recorded 40 was a 4.74 out of high school. Rapp is very good short area quickness. I worry about his long speed. Even Eric Weddle had 4.48 40. And he went in the 2nd round. No to Rapp in the 1st round. I ran a 4.72 in HS. Relevant. You were better off arguing scheme fit, than talent level.
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Post by chopper31 on Mar 24, 2019 19:16:40 GMT -7
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