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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 26, 2024 6:48:40 GMT -7
With what they are paying Bosa and Mack, I wonder what the expected percentage of defence plays is believed for them. Leaving what for Tuli and Dupree..... That fifth guy should not see much plays, barring injury..... I expect rotation to be higher than normal. that 5th guy will see play. This will play into the strength needed later in the game Wear them down, then send the Hounds from Hell after them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 26, 2024 7:21:42 GMT -7
With what they are paying Bosa and Mack, I wonder what the expected percentage of defence plays is believed for them. Leaving what for Tuli and Dupree..... That fifth guy should not see much plays, barring injury..... I expect rotation to be higher than normal. that 5th guy will see play. This will play into the strength needed later in the game I suppose it will all depend on the 'talent' found in that fifth guy. It can be a dangerous move to go to an ineffective player. Sorta like rolling out your 4th line players in ice hockey.....do it too much and you get burned.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 26, 2024 9:39:02 GMT -7
I expect rotation to be higher than normal. that 5th guy will see play. This will play into the strength needed later in the game I suppose it will all depend on the 'talent' found in that fifth guy. It can be a dangerous move to go to an ineffective player. Sorta like rolling out your 4th line players in ice hockey.....do it too much and you get burned. I don't think our 5th edge will be just a guy. He'll be 5th because the top 4 are excellent. It's a nice group of prospects. I expect it'll be a strong competition for the last spot.
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 27, 2024 5:48:01 GMT -7
I expect rotation to be higher than normal. that 5th guy will see play. This will play into the strength needed later in the game I suppose it will all depend on the 'talent' found in that fifth guy. It can be a dangerous move to go to an ineffective player. Sorta like rolling out your 4th line players in ice hockey.....do it too much and you get burned. Your not talking about what just happened in the stanley cup are you? Despite the loss my Canadian friend, don't be too skeptical. Look, you actually voted out the worst person on the planet. There is hope.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 27, 2024 6:49:42 GMT -7
I suppose it will all depend on the 'talent' found in that fifth guy. It can be a dangerous move to go to an ineffective player. Sorta like rolling out your 4th line players in ice hockey.....do it too much and you get burned. I don't think our 5th edge will be just a guy. He'll be 5th because the top 4 are excellent. It's a nice group of prospects. I expect it'll be a strong competition for the last spot. It feels like what you are implying is the talent gap between starter (Bosa and Mack) and the 5th guy is simply not too great. Bosa and Mack are the undisputed starters, with Tui and Dupree solid reserves, and that 5th guy will be right there....ummm, we will see. Harbaugh's ability to get that 5th guy believing, and playing, like he is Mack is what will propel the defence to greater heights.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 27, 2024 6:52:45 GMT -7
I suppose it will all depend on the 'talent' found in that fifth guy. It can be a dangerous move to go to an ineffective player. Sorta like rolling out your 4th line players in ice hockey.....do it too much and you get burned. Your not talking about what just happened in the stanley cup are you? Despite the loss my Canadian friend, don't be too skeptical. Look, you actually voted out the worst person on the planet. There is hope. No....I think the better club won. The fact it went seven games is a example of how puck love impacts outcomes, eh. It should have been over in five, but good for the NHL it went seven.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 27, 2024 9:16:36 GMT -7
I don't think our 5th edge will be just a guy. He'll be 5th because the top 4 are excellent. It's a nice group of prospects. I expect it'll be a strong competition for the last spot. It feels like what you are implying is the talent gap between starter (Bosa and Mack) and the 5th guy is simply not too great. Bosa and Mack are the undisputed starters, with Tui and Dupree solid reserves, and that 5th guy will be right there....ummm, we will see. Harbaugh's ability to get that 5th guy believing, and playing, like he is Mack is what will propel the defence to greater heights. What I'm saying is that our 5th edge could be a 2 or 3 on many other teams. There's a lot of enthusiasm to be part of the best pass rush group in the NFL.
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 27, 2024 15:57:23 GMT -7
I don't think our 5th edge will be just a guy. He'll be 5th because the top 4 are excellent. It's a nice group of prospects. I expect it'll be a strong competition for the last spot. It feels like what you are implying is the talent gap between starter (Bosa and Mack) and the 5th guy is simply not too great. Bosa and Mack are the undisputed starters, with Tui and Dupree solid reserves, and that 5th guy will be right there....ummm, we will see. Harbaugh's ability to get that 5th guy believing, and playing, like he is Mack is what will propel the defence to greater heights. I won't argue the talent drop exists. How much, is the question. my point was regardless of what the drop is I still think #5 will see more playing time than one would expect. I just see a lot more rotation as being part of the overall plan.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 27, 2024 16:44:53 GMT -7
It feels like what you are implying is the talent gap between starter (Bosa and Mack) and the 5th guy is simply not too great. Bosa and Mack are the undisputed starters, with Tui and Dupree solid reserves, and that 5th guy will be right there....ummm, we will see. Harbaugh's ability to get that 5th guy believing, and playing, like he is Mack is what will propel the defence to greater heights. What I'm saying is that our 5th edge could be a 2 or 3 on many other teams. There's a lot of enthusiasm to be part of the best pass rush group in the NFL. The 5th edge guy that you can't even name currently? A bit of hyperbole, or too much Charger juice. The "best pass rush group"......what? When did that happen? Everybody looks great in the Spring.....but.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 27, 2024 16:48:22 GMT -7
It feels like what you are implying is the talent gap between starter (Bosa and Mack) and the 5th guy is simply not too great. Bosa and Mack are the undisputed starters, with Tui and Dupree solid reserves, and that 5th guy will be right there....ummm, we will see. Harbaugh's ability to get that 5th guy believing, and playing, like he is Mack is what will propel the defence to greater heights. I won't argue the talent drop exists. How much, is the question. my point was regardless of what the drop is I still think #5 will see more playing time than one would expect. I just see a lot more rotation as being part of the overall plan. Well of course that 5th guy will see plenty of plays....it shouldn't be too far into the season that Bosa breaks, making that 5th guy the 4th guy.
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 28, 2024 6:29:53 GMT -7
I won't argue the talent drop exists. How much, is the question. my point was regardless of what the drop is I still think #5 will see more playing time than one would expect. I just see a lot more rotation as being part of the overall plan. Well of course that 5th guy will see plenty of plays....it shouldn't be too far into the season that Bosa breaks, making that 5th guy the 4th guy. bing bada boom.. mic drop
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 29, 2024 10:26:31 GMT -7
I won't argue the talent drop exists. How much, is the question. my point was regardless of what the drop is I still think #5 will see more playing time than one would expect. I just see a lot more rotation as being part of the overall plan. Well of course that 5th guy will see plenty of plays....it shouldn't be too far into the season that Bosa breaks, making that 5th guy the 4th guy. It could be a good year for Bosa. He's had good following bad in the past. Regardless, a strong rotation needs to be available as a preventive as well as a replacement. This year. It may be an audition for a step up in '25.
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Post by lightsout42 on Jun 29, 2024 12:51:29 GMT -7
Tuli is a quality starter on most teams. The fact that he’s Edge 3 with Bud as Edge 4 is an excellent rotation and depth situation.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 1, 2024 5:08:57 GMT -7
Tuli is a quality starter on most teams. The fact that he’s Edge 3 with Bud as Edge 4 is an excellent rotation and depth situation. Tuli will replace one of our stars. He is knocking on Pro Bowl status as a number 2. Just love our rookie. Love his rookie contract too. It's a 4 year deal because we got him in the second round. Double darn. Lovey my Tuli.
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Post by moekid on Jul 1, 2024 8:42:19 GMT -7
Tuli is a quality starter on most teams. The fact that he’s Edge 3 with Bud as Edge 4 is an excellent rotation and depth situation. Tuli will replace one of our stars. He is knocking on Pro Bowl status as a number 2. Just love our rookie. Love his rookie contract too. It's a 4 year deal because we got him in the second round. Double darn. Lovey my Tuli. Tuli had a hot start and slow finish. He needs to take a step forward. Once Bosa went down he was much less effective as an every down player
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