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Post by frozendisc on Jan 5, 2021 9:00:11 GMT -7
On your list, I literally feel like Bienemy would get the most out of Herbert. So that is a plus for him. Eric "Sleeping with" Bienemy seems to be the shiny object everyone is fixated with.
I just think his success is more of a product of Mahomes and Reed than it is of Bienemy.
I think we need a experienced HC. The main reason we lost this season was bad game management.
Bienemy and Daboll both are the shiny prize......I pass on each. I find Garrett an interesting option.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 5, 2021 9:05:11 GMT -7
On your list, I literally feel like Bienemy would get the most out of Herbert. So that is a plus for him. Eric "Sleeping with" Bienemy seems to be the shiny object everyone is fixated with.
I just think his success is more of a product of Mahomes and Reed than it is of Bienemy.
I think we need a experienced HC. The main reason we lost this season was bad game management.
Me too. But there weren't any on his list.
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Post by lightsout42 on Jan 5, 2021 10:00:13 GMT -7
Eric "Sleeping with" Bienemy seems to be the shiny object everyone is fixated with.
I just think his success is more of a product of Mahomes and Reed than it is of Bienemy.
I think we need a experienced HC. The main reason we lost this season was bad game management.
Bienemy and Daboll both are the shiny prize......I pass on each. I find Garrett an interesting option. I think of the quasi-available HCs with NFL experience that Jim Harbaugh is probably the best, and a better HC than Garrett. Jim Caldwell may also be a better HC than Garrett. Garrett is a better HC than anyone who hasn’t been a HC. If you can live with the risk, Daboll and Smith may become better HCs than Garrett and Caldwell. There’s a lot about Daboll that reminds me of Belichick’s football intelligence. I’m not sure I can live with the risk but I think they’re competitive with Caldwell and Garrett on a longer term view (2 season learning curve) especially if paired with a solid former HC as coordinator/asst HC. |
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 5, 2021 10:18:54 GMT -7
Bienemy and Daboll both are the shiny prize......I pass on each. I find Garrett an interesting option. I think of the quasi-available HCs with NFL experience that Jim Harbaugh is probably the best, and a better HC than Garrett. Jim Caldwell may also be a better HC than Garrett. Garrett is a better HC than anyone who hasn’t been a HC. If you can live with the risk, Daboll and Smith may become better HCs than Garrett and Caldwell. There’s a lot about Daboll that reminds me of Belichick’s football intelligence. I’m not sure I can live with the risk but I think they’re competitive with Caldwell and Garrett on a longer term view (2 season learning curve) especially if paired with a solid former HC as coordinator/asst HC. Agreed... Look at Garrett's history, what has he done? Nothing... He had Dak, Zeke, an amazing oline with a decent defense and couldn't get Dallas much farther than any of our previous coaches. I just don't get the appeal at all...
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 5, 2021 10:37:23 GMT -7
Eric "Sleeping with" Bienemy seems to be the shiny object everyone is fixated with.
I just think his success is more of a product of Mahomes and Reed than it is of Bienemy.
I think we need a experienced HC. The main reason we lost this season was bad game management.
Bienemy and Daboll both are the shiny prize......I pass on each. I find Garrett an interesting option. Bieniemy was a Chargers running back for 4 years. How rude !
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Post by joemcrugby on Jan 5, 2021 10:38:49 GMT -7
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Post by amped on Jan 5, 2021 10:39:23 GMT -7
I think of the quasi-available HCs with NFL experience that Jim Harbaugh is probably the best, and a better HC than Garrett. Jim Caldwell may also be a better HC than Garrett. Garrett is a better HC than anyone who hasn’t been a HC. If you can live with the risk, Daboll and Smith may become better HCs than Garrett and Caldwell. There’s a lot about Daboll that reminds me of Belichick’s football intelligence. I’m not sure I can live with the risk but I think they’re competitive with Caldwell and Garrett on a longer term view (2 season learning curve) especially if paired with a solid former HC as coordinator/asst HC. Agreed... Look at Garrett's history, what has he done? Nothing... He had Dak, Zeke, an amazing oline with a decent defense and couldn't get Dallas much farther than any of our previous coaches. I just don't get the appeal at all... Keep in mind Garrett Had one losing season over 10 years all with Jerry looming over him. He would have advanced to the NFC championship if not for a really dumb catch rule. I think there are better coaches out there but I would absolutely give him a shot. Harbaugh bugs me a bit. But I would be happy with either. Not My fist choice by any means but I really think we are just a few aggressive plays and some better clock management form being a contender.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jan 5, 2021 10:40:55 GMT -7
One point Popper brought up yesterday seems like it could be relevant because I can’t see Garrett getting serious consideration for the job.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 5, 2021 10:46:14 GMT -7
I think of the quasi-available HCs with NFL experience that Jim Harbaugh is probably the best, and a better HC than Garrett. Jim Caldwell may also be a better HC than Garrett. Garrett is a better HC than anyone who hasn’t been a HC. If you can live with the risk, Daboll and Smith may become better HCs than Garrett and Caldwell. There’s a lot about Daboll that reminds me of Belichick’s football intelligence. I’m not sure I can live with the risk but I think they’re competitive with Caldwell and Garrett on a longer term view (2 season learning curve) especially if paired with a solid former HC as coordinator/asst HC. Agreed... Look at Garrett's history, what has he done? Nothing... He had Dak, Zeke, an amazing oline with a decent defense and couldn't get Dallas much farther than any of our previous coaches. I just don't get the appeal at all... Some of the appeal is about his fit here, and also what he is replacing. He is ten times the in- game manager that Lynn is. His fit here is appealing because he is absolutely a players coach, and while Jerry Jones meddled in EVERYTHING, Spanos doesn't. There is a thought that Garrett would be free to fly in LA.
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Post by amped on Jan 5, 2021 10:48:56 GMT -7
Agreed... Look at Garrett's history, what has he done? Nothing... He had Dak, Zeke, an amazing oline with a decent defense and couldn't get Dallas much farther than any of our previous coaches. I just don't get the appeal at all... Some of the appeal is about his fit here, and also what he is replacing. He is ten times the in- game manager that Lynn is. His fit here is appealing because he is absolutely a players coach, and while Jerry Jones meddled in EVERYTHING, Spanos doesn't. There is a thought that Garrett would be free to fly in LA. Good take, another note is, living in jerry world garrett is used to the bright lights and microscope coverage that comes from being in LA.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 5, 2021 10:50:00 GMT -7
Agreed... Look at Garrett's history, what has he done? Nothing... He had Dak, Zeke, an amazing oline with a decent defense and couldn't get Dallas much farther than any of our previous coaches. I just don't get the appeal at all... Some of the appeal is about his fit here, and also what he is replacing. He is ten times the in- game manager that Lynn is. His fit here is appealing because he is absolutely a players coach, and while Jerry Jones meddled in EVERYTHING, Spanos doesn't. There is a thought that Garrett would be free to fly in LA. Watch at the 12 minute mark when they talk about Garrett
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Post by moekid on Jan 5, 2021 10:52:48 GMT -7
Jason Garrett is the safe milquetoast choice. Has HC experience. No flash, no risk, can manage the ship. Won’t get you any excitement but not likely to shit the bed either. He’s Norv 2.0
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 5, 2021 10:56:35 GMT -7
Some of the appeal is about his fit here, and also what he is replacing. He is ten times the in- game manager that Lynn is. His fit here is appealing because he is absolutely a players coach, and while Jerry Jones meddled in EVERYTHING, Spanos doesn't. There is a thought that Garrett would be free to fly in LA. Watch at the 12 minute mark when they talk about Garrett If he iced our own kicker that would actually be an improvement for our special teams. As far as "Go find someone more dynamic than Sean McVay to coach the Chargers." Good freakin' luck doing that !
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Post by lightsout42 on Jan 5, 2021 11:11:32 GMT -7
I think of the quasi-available HCs with NFL experience that Jim Harbaugh is probably the best, and a better HC than Garrett. Jim Caldwell may also be a better HC than Garrett. Garrett is a better HC than anyone who hasn’t been a HC. If you can live with the risk, Daboll and Smith may become better HCs than Garrett and Caldwell. There’s a lot about Daboll that reminds me of Belichick’s football intelligence. I’m not sure I can live with the risk but I think they’re competitive with Caldwell and Garrett on a longer term view (2 season learning curve) especially if paired with a solid former HC as coordinator/asst HC. Agreed... Look at Garrett's history, what has he done? Nothing... He had Dak, Zeke, an amazing oline with a decent defense and couldn't get Dallas much farther than any of our previous coaches. I just don't get the appeal at all... I tend to agree and would put Garrett under at least a few others. But a consistently winning record is still what it is. Consistently finding the playoffs/conference championships/Super Bowl appearances is limited to a small handful of currently employed coaches (Belichick, Tomlin, Reid, the Harbaughs) and one or two retired coaches (Cowher comes to mind). |
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 5, 2021 11:41:04 GMT -7
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