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Post by moekid on Jun 5, 2019 8:07:12 GMT -7
Wow! That's pretty light for a Mike. Get the backups ready! Could be. Then again, it may help in his mobility, and if there’s one thing that he possesses, it’s a solid pop when he makes contact. Move him to safety? |
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 5, 2019 8:59:34 GMT -7
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 5, 2019 20:48:47 GMT -7
Has this writer even looked at the OT depth ? Has he ? WR is not an issue, the depth is there, if perhaps untested or unproven.....so far.
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Post by cthommes on Jun 5, 2019 21:31:51 GMT -7
Has this writer even looked at the OT depth ? Has he ? WR is not an issue, the depth is there, if perhaps untested or unproven.....so far. Err... Isn't that last statement true of OTs as well? Or any position group for that matter. |
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 6, 2019 2:18:30 GMT -7
Has this writer even looked at the OT depth ? Has he ? WR is not an issue, the depth is there, if perhaps untested or unproven.....so far. Err... Isn't that last statement true of OTs as well? Or any position group for that matter.I don't think our CB position group falls under that. DB group either. I would list LB group too. RB group. QB group. Did a new TE make that group ?
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 6, 2019 2:28:32 GMT -7
Has this writer even looked at the OT depth ? Has he ? WR is not an issue, the depth is there, if perhaps untested or unproven.....so far. Here is what you can bounce around inside your hockey mask. I threw a fit when Ty Williams left, and we did nothing to replace him. Interesting that a sportswriter picked that. Of everything he could have picked, he went straight there. Once again, you want to be very careful when you have a great WR group, and the Number 2 or 3 WR not only leaves, but goes to a division rival. I know they are convinced that Cantrell, or Davis, or Scott is the answer. The other thing I know is you are flirting with fire by thinking that. The other thing I will warn is you want to be very careful doubting me. Now I just listed 3 players that will be given their shot to replace Williams. Shouldn't be a problem. Right ? I mean, Davis fought hard to make 5th on the depth chart and virtually never played. Scott went practice squad. Glass Cantrell was injured and went PS. No problem, eh ?
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 6, 2019 8:05:23 GMT -7
Has this writer even looked at the OT depth ? Has he ? WR is not an issue, the depth is there, if perhaps untested or unproven.....so far. Here is what you can bounce around inside your hockey mask. I threw a fit when Ty Williams left, and we did nothing to replace him. Interesting that a sportswriter picked that. Of everything he could have picked, he went straight there. Once again, you want to be very careful when you have a great WR group, and the Number 2 or 3 WR not only leaves, but goes to a division rival. I know they are convinced that Cantrell, or Davis, or Scott is the answer. The other thing I know is you are flirting with fire by thinking that. The other thing I will warn is you want to be very careful doubting me. Now I just listed 3 players that will be given their shot to replace Williams. Shouldn't be a problem. Right ? I mean, Davis fought hard to make 5th on the depth chart and virtually never played. Scott went practice squad. Glass Cantrell was injured and went PS. No problem, eh ? And they are correct. Sportswriter is ignoring the fact that the WR position over the years has been plug and play, be it with undrafted free agents (Inman, Ajaritutu, Vincent Brown, unwanted veteran free agents (i.e., Patrick Clayton, Danario Alexander, etc.). PR makes the WR, not the other way around. Artavis Scott was injured late in the preseason, but has looked like another Dontrell Inman up until the late injury. Like always, they'll be fine at the #4 and #5 WR positions due to the QB under center. It's not a position of need IMO. It will also be interesting to watch Tyrell up in Oakland this year playing with a QB who is not PR. Yes, Tyrell got $10.1 million guaranteed upfront, but it's essentially a "prove it" contract that he signed. The Raiders have an "out" in their contract where they can cut him loose in early March 2020 (2020 salary fully guarantees on the 3rd league day of 2020) with a zero cap hit. www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/tyrell-williams-17039/If Gruden deems his production as not being worth $11 million for the 2020 season, Tyrell will hit the free agent market again in 9 months time.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 6, 2019 8:23:38 GMT -7
Has this writer even looked at the OT depth ? Has he ? WR is not an issue, the depth is there, if perhaps untested or unproven.....so far. Err... Isn't that last statement true of OTs as well? Or any position group for that matter. I suppose to clarify, I meant the talent is there in the depth, especially since we are talking the 4th WR in the pecking order. If KA, MW and TB were all lost for the season, the WR group is definitely a problem, but could you imagine losing the top three OT's on the roster.....problem wouldn't come close to describing the issue.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 6, 2019 8:26:16 GMT -7
Here is what you can bounce around inside your hockey mask. I threw a fit when Ty Williams left, and we did nothing to replace him. Interesting that a sportswriter picked that. Of everything he could have picked, he went straight there. Once again, you want to be very careful when you have a great WR group, and the Number 2 or 3 WR not only leaves, but goes to a division rival. I know they are convinced that Cantrell, or Davis, or Scott is the answer. The other thing I know is you are flirting with fire by thinking that. The other thing I will warn is you want to be very careful doubting me. Now I just listed 3 players that will be given their shot to replace Williams. Shouldn't be a problem. Right ? I mean, Davis fought hard to make 5th on the depth chart and virtually never played. Scott went practice squad. Glass Cantrell was injured and went PS. No problem, eh ? And they are correct. Sportswriter is ignoring the fact that the WR position over the years has been plug and play, be it with undrafted free agents (Inman, Ajaritutu, Vincent Brown, unwanted veteran free agents (i.e., Patrick Clayton, Danario Alexander, etc.). PR makes the WR, not the other way around. Artavis Scott was injured late in the preseason, but has looked like another Dontrell Inman up until the late injury. Like always, they'll be fine at the #4 and #5 WR positions due to the QB under center. It's not a position of need IMO. It will also be interesting to watch Tyrell up in Oakland this year playing with a QB who is not PR. Yes, Tyrell got $10.1 million guaranteed upfront, but it's essentially a "prove it" contract that he signed. The Raiders have an "out" in their contract where they can cut him loose in early March 2020 (2020 salary fully guarantees on the 3rd league day of 2020) with a zero cap hit. www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/tyrell-williams-17039/If Gruden deems his production as not being worth $11 million for the 2020 season, Tyrell will hit the free agent market again in 9 months time. I think most on here know my position on TW. I like TW at a 3rd WR rate of pay, not at a top WR rate. It will be interesting to see how he does in Oakland, but I suspect he sees FA once again in 2020......
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 6, 2019 8:29:31 GMT -7
Has this writer even looked at the OT depth ? Has he ? WR is not an issue, the depth is there, if perhaps untested or unproven.....so far. Here is what you can bounce around inside your hockey mask. I threw a fit when Ty Williams left, and we did nothing to replace him. Interesting that a sportswriter picked that. Of everything he could have picked, he went straight there. Once again, you want to be very careful when you have a great WR group, and the Number 2 or 3 WR not only leaves, but goes to a division rival. I know they are convinced that Cantrell, or Davis, or Scott is the answer. The other thing I know is you are flirting with fire by thinking that. The other thing I will warn is you want to be very careful doubting me. Now I just listed 3 players that will be given their shot to replace Williams. Shouldn't be a problem. Right ? I mean, Davis fought hard to make 5th on the depth chart and virtually never played. Scott went practice squad. Glass Cantrell was injured and went PS. No problem, eh ? Dead season.....writers are reaching all over the place to find something to write about. TT didn't need to make any WR moves, there was a log jam in the group already, TW leaving helped. Doubting you is a way of life for most of us......
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Post by Chargeroo on Jun 6, 2019 11:48:55 GMT -7
Here is what you can bounce around inside your hockey mask. I threw a fit when Ty Williams left, and we did nothing to replace him. Interesting that a sportswriter picked that. Of everything he could have picked, he went straight there. Once again, you want to be very careful when you have a great WR group, and the Number 2 or 3 WR not only leaves, but goes to a division rival. I know they are convinced that Cantrell, or Davis, or Scott is the answer. The other thing I know is you are flirting with fire by thinking that. The other thing I will warn is you want to be very careful doubting me. Now I just listed 3 players that will be given their shot to replace Williams. Shouldn't be a problem. Right ? I mean, Davis fought hard to make 5th on the depth chart and virtually never played. Scott went practice squad. Glass Cantrell was injured and went PS. No problem, eh ? Dead season.....writers are reaching all over the place to find something to write about. TT didn't need to make any WR moves, there was a log jam in the group already, TW leaving helped. Doubting you is a way of life for most of us...... I don't agree with the bolded above. I'm not much of a fan of Benjamin (although he made some nice plays in the playoff game against Balt.) I think he a pretty big drop from TW. So, imo, unless one of the youngsters can push Benjamin back to #4, the WR group has taken a hit. I kind of think Scott could end up doing that.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 6, 2019 12:42:54 GMT -7
Dead season.....writers are reaching all over the place to find something to write about. TT didn't need to make any WR moves, there was a log jam in the group already, TW leaving helped. Doubting you is a way of life for most of us...... I don't agree with the bolded above. I'm not much of a fan of Benjamin (although he made some nice plays in the playoff game against Balt.) I think he a pretty big drop from TW. So, imo, unless one of the youngsters can push Benjamin back to #4, the WR group has taken a hit. I kind of think Scott could end up doing that. Don’t forget the two massive receptions against the Chiefs that set the stage for MDub’s heroics at the end of regulation. Benjamin got powdered on both receptions, but held on to save the game. Once Benjamin got healthy last year, he impressed me greatly, but of course the big question is whether he can stay healthy like he was in Cleveland or continue to get nicked up as happened often over the past couple of seasons. I too am high on Scott. He looked very solid when I saw him in person, and of course we know he can perform on a big stage as he is no Sammy Smallschool (MDub’s teammate at Clemson). |
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 6, 2019 12:58:06 GMT -7
Here is what you can bounce around inside your hockey mask. I threw a fit when Ty Williams left, and we did nothing to replace him. Interesting that a sportswriter picked that. Of everything he could have picked, he went straight there. Once again, you want to be very careful when you have a great WR group, and the Number 2 or 3 WR not only leaves, but goes to a division rival. I know they are convinced that Cantrell, or Davis, or Scott is the answer. The other thing I know is you are flirting with fire by thinking that. The other thing I will warn is you want to be very careful doubting me. Now I just listed 3 players that will be given their shot to replace Williams. Shouldn't be a problem. Right ? I mean, Davis fought hard to make 5th on the depth chart and virtually never played. Scott went practice squad. Glass Cantrell was injured and went PS. No problem, eh ? Sportswriter is ignoring the fact that the WR position over the years has been plug and play, be it with undrafted free agents (Inman, Ajaritutu, Vincent Brown, unwanted veteran free agents (i.e., Patrick Clayton, Danario Alexander, etc.). PR makes the WR, not the other way around. Artavis Scott was injured late in the preseason, but has looked like another Dontrell Inman up until the late injury. Like always, they'll be fine at the #4 and #5 WR positions due to the QB under center. It's not a position of need IMO. It will also be interesting to watch Tyrell up in Oakland this year playing with a QB who is not PR. Yes, Tyrell got $10.1 million guaranteed upfront, but it's essentially a "prove it" contract that he signed. The Raiders have an "out" in their contract where they can cut him loose in early March 2020 (2020 salary fully guarantees on the 3rd league day of 2020) with a zero cap hit. www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/tyrell-williams-17039/If Gruden deems his production as not being worth $11 million for the 2020 season, Tyrell will hit the free agent market again in 9 months time. And you are not. Any those PS dwellers are going to match Williams production, based on the fact that they never have ? Specifically YPC. I laugh.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 6, 2019 13:01:34 GMT -7
Ty Williams had 41 catches last year and has a 16.3 YPC CAREER AVERAGE. Career !!!!!!
Artavis Scott is doing THAT ?!?!?!?!?
OH. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I'm dying over here !!
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 6, 2019 13:13:25 GMT -7
Here is what you can bounce around inside your hockey mask. I threw a fit when Ty Williams left, and we did nothing to replace him. Interesting that a sportswriter picked that. Of everything he could have picked, he went straight there. Once again, you want to be very careful when you have a great WR group, and the Number 2 or 3 WR not only leaves, but goes to a division rival. I know they are convinced that Cantrell, or Davis, or Scott is the answer. The other thing I know is you are flirting with fire by thinking that. The other thing I will warn is you want to be very careful doubting me. Now I just listed 3 players that will be given their shot to replace Williams. Shouldn't be a problem. Right ? I mean, Davis fought hard to make 5th on the depth chart and virtually never played. Scott went practice squad. Glass Cantrell was injured and went PS. No problem, eh ? And they are correct. Sportswriter is ignoring the fact that the WR position over the years has been plug and play, be it with undrafted free agents (Inman, Ajaritutu, Vincent Brown, unwanted veteran free agents (i.e., Patrick Clayton, Danario Alexander, etc.). PR makes the WR, not the other way around. Artavis Scott was injured late in the preseason, but has looked like another Dontrell Inman up until the late injury. Like always, they'll be fine at the #4 and #5 WR positions due to the QB under center. It's not a position of need IMO. It will also be interesting to watch Tyrell up in Oakland this year playing with a QB who is not PR. Yes, Tyrell got $10.1 million guaranteed upfront, but it's essentially a "prove it" contract that he signed. The Raiders have an "out" in their contract where they can cut him loose in early March 2020 (2020 salary fully guarantees on the 3rd league day of 2020) with a zero cap hit. www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/tyrell-williams-17039/If Gruden deems his production as not being worth $11 million for the 2020 season, Tyrell will hit the free agent market again in 9 months time. Sounds like they are hating life alright:
On the same day they traded for Brown, general manager Mike Mayock pulled the trigger on a free agent deal for Tyrell Williams, a tremendously talented young wideout from the Los Angeles Chargers. A player adept at taking the lid off a defense, Williams has really turned eyes during his first spring with the Raiders, and fans of the team should be excited about what he brings to the table.
Not only can Williams beat teams deep, but he is a tremendous route runner, and will be the perfect compliment to Brown on the outside. That will allow rookie Hunter Renfrow to do his thing in the slot, giving the Raiders the most talented group of wide receivers in the AFC West this upcoming season.
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