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Post by lazylightning on Sept 30, 2021 6:59:17 GMT -7
I’m placing an order for a charger jersey with the number 79 and HANDICAP written across the back because the chargers are too damn good and it’s good sportsmanship to give opposing teams a fighting chance.  you like that frozen D? It matters little to me how you spend your money, or the specifics of any jersey you might purchase. ...but it matters just enough to comment, eh?
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Post by joemcrugby on Sept 30, 2021 13:39:58 GMT -7
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Post by fouts2herbert on Sept 30, 2021 13:46:46 GMT -7
That doesn’t sound good, does this mean he’s out longer or was it minor enough and done when he went on IR so he could return this season? We need more info
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Post by fouts2herbert on Oct 1, 2021 18:31:27 GMT -7
The chargers have a solid option to upgrade the line without resorting to signing anyone from outside, they can put bulaga on IR, slide fieler to RT and start jaimes next to slater. I think they haven’t done this yet because they are worried about the lack of experience but both jaimes and fieler are smart kids and both played a ton in college, I think they’d be fine. Hunter would fill the back up guard spot and nothing else needs to change, just one guy on IR and one guy moved up from practice squad. The line would instantly get younger and healthier. We’ve already seen this bulaga starts and exits early in game show all of last season, I think the team needs to bite the bullet and make this move for the sake of consistency and stability along the line. I don’t know if you guys caught the press conference, I missed it too but the guys from ‘guilty as charged’ were talking about the presser and apparently the team has changed their stance on how to fill the RT spot going forward in case norton goes down to injury. So instead of leaving fieler at his LG spot and plugging in pipkins at RT, the team is now prepared to slide fieler over to RT and play schofield at LG!!! THIS IS HUGE GUYS!!! This means that fieler to RT is now a thing and if they are considering it in case of a norton injury. I can only wonder if it also means they have considered it if norton is unable to show more consistency from game to game. For them to even talk about it at a press conference means that they feel schofield is comfortable with the offense already! This is bigtime because schofield has a ton of experience. talk about leveling up the offensive line, this is exactly what I’ve been wishing for since we signed fieler. I honestly believed his arrival back in march meant bulaga was out because his best work in pittsburg came at RT. Perhaps soon we’ll be able to see what it’s like having two very good tackles on our offensive line!!! If this comes to pass I’d have to go back to the days of harry swayne and stan brock for a comparison and slater/fieler would be better IMO. That’s saying something since swayne/brock played for a superbowl team. This might sound like they don’t like jaimes but the coaches refuted that at the presser basically saying they just don’t feel comfortable playing the two rookies side by side at this time. Anyways, I’m really excited because I’m really looking forward to seeing fieler at RT! DUDE IS A BEAST!!!
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 2, 2021 6:09:28 GMT -7
The chargers have a solid option to upgrade the line without resorting to signing anyone from outside, they can put bulaga on IR, slide fieler to RT and start jaimes next to slater. I think they haven’t done this yet because they are worried about the lack of experience but both jaimes and fieler are smart kids and both played a ton in college, I think they’d be fine. Hunter would fill the back up guard spot and nothing else needs to change, just one guy on IR and one guy moved up from practice squad. The line would instantly get younger and healthier. We’ve already seen this bulaga starts and exits early in game show all of last season, I think the team needs to bite the bullet and make this move for the sake of consistency and stability along the line. I don’t know if you guys caught the press conference, I missed it too but the guys from ‘guilty as charged’ were talking about the presser and apparently the team has changed their stance on how to fill the RT spot going forward in case norton goes down to injury. So instead of leaving fieler at his LG spot and plugging in pipkins at RT, the team is now prepared to slide fieler over to RT and play schofield at LG!!! THIS IS HUGE GUYS!!! This means that fieler to RT is now a thing and if they are considering it in case of a norton injury. I can only wonder if it also means they have considered it if norton is unable to show more consistency from game to game. For them to even talk about it at a press conference means that they feel schofield is comfortable with the offense already! This is bigtime because schofield has a ton of experience. talk about leveling up the offensive line, this is exactly what I’ve been wishing for since we signed fieler. I honestly believed his arrival back in march meant bulaga was out because his best work in pittsburg came at RT. Perhaps soon we’ll be able to see what it’s like having two very good tackles on our offensive line!!! If this comes to pass I’d have to go back to the days of harry swayne and stan brock for a comparison and slater/fieler would be better IMO. That’s saying something since swayne/brock played for a superbowl team. This might sound like they don’t like jaimes but the coaches refuted that at the presser basically saying they just don’t feel comfortable playing the two rookies side by side at this time. Anyways, I’m really excited because I’m really looking forward to seeing fieler at RT! DUDE IS A BEAST!!! Sounds like you are hoping Norton plays poorly, or gets injured, so you get to see your musical chairs play out.......
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Post by boltnut on Oct 2, 2021 8:13:02 GMT -7
I don't think anyone of us hopes for poor play or injury. We hope for the best lineup we can put on the field.
In the end, you have to ask yourself... who would you rather have on the field? Norton or Schofield?
Schofield is pretty average (maybe below average) but Storm makes me down-right nervous.
With Lombardi basically ignoring the running game, it seems you would need to be stronger at RT rather than LG.
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Post by sonorajim on Oct 2, 2021 12:02:46 GMT -7
I don't think anyone of us hopes for poor play or injury. We hope for the best lineup we can put on the field. In the end, you have to ask yourself... who would you rather have on the field? Norton or Schofield? Schofield is pretty average (maybe below average) but Storm makes me down-right nervous. With Lombardi basically ignoring the running game, it seems you would need to be stronger at RT rather than LG. Moving Feiler downgrades pass pro (and run blocking) at LG. Slater- Feiler- Linsley have been working well together. Not sure I want to break that up.
I don't believe it's necessary and may not be prudent.
Storm appears to have some upside. No question that he's younger, more athletic, works hard and has improved. Schofield is on the far side of his best play and was a rough adequate then.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Oct 2, 2021 12:36:04 GMT -7
I don’t know if you guys caught the press conference, I missed it too but the guys from ‘guilty as charged’ were talking about the presser and apparently the team has changed their stance on how to fill the RT spot going forward in case norton goes down to injury. So instead of leaving fieler at his LG spot and plugging in pipkins at RT, the team is now prepared to slide fieler over to RT and play schofield at LG!!! THIS IS HUGE GUYS!!! This means that fieler to RT is now a thing and if they are considering it in case of a norton injury. I can only wonder if it also means they have considered it if norton is unable to show more consistency from game to game. For them to even talk about it at a press conference means that they feel schofield is comfortable with the offense already! This is bigtime because schofield has a ton of experience. talk about leveling up the offensive line, this is exactly what I’ve been wishing for since we signed fieler. I honestly believed his arrival back in march meant bulaga was out because his best work in pittsburg came at RT. Perhaps soon we’ll be able to see what it’s like having two very good tackles on our offensive line!!! If this comes to pass I’d have to go back to the days of harry swayne and stan brock for a comparison and slater/fieler would be better IMO. That’s saying something since swayne/brock played for a superbowl team. This might sound like they don’t like jaimes but the coaches refuted that at the presser basically saying they just don’t feel comfortable playing the two rookies side by side at this time. Anyways, I’m really excited because I’m really looking forward to seeing fieler at RT! DUDE IS A BEAST!!! Sounds like you are hoping Norton plays poorly, or gets injured, so you get to see your musical chairs play out....... You know damn well I’m not hoping for any of that, norton is currently at a 44.1 overall grade on PFF. At this point I’d happily settle for the storm norton we got at the end of last season when he carried a 59.3 PFF grade to lead the entire line. I don’t understand what happened but he was actually more fluid and athletic last year, maybe he suffered a training injury or maybe he put on weight or something, but he looks stiff and his play has regressed from what he put on film last year. The way he moved last year impressed me, he used his size and his body like marcus mcniel back in the day using his length to steer people all the way around. He’s not dropping his weight on bull rushes like I saw him do last year, he’s been lunging more. It’s not a LT/RT switch issue either, he looked good on both sides last year.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Oct 2, 2021 13:15:04 GMT -7
I don't think anyone of us hopes for poor play or injury. We hope for the best lineup we can put on the field. In the end, you have to ask yourself... who would you rather have on the field? Norton or Schofield? Schofield is pretty average (maybe below average) but Storm makes me down-right nervous. With Lombardi basically ignoring the running game, it seems you would need to be stronger at RT rather than LG. Moving Feiler downgrades pass pro (and run blocking) at LG. Slater- Feiler- Linsley have been working well together. Not sure I want to break that up.
I don't believe it's necessary and may not be prudent.
Storm appears to have some upside. No question that he's younger, more athletic, works hard and has improved. Schofield is on the far side of his best play and was a rough adequate then.
I don’t think they’ll make a change, especially if norton continues to improve and play with more consistency. As much as I’d love to see fieler at RT, it can wait till next year when jaimes is ready to start. Your right about schofield, he’d be a downgrade at LG, but it’s only their emergency contingency. My excitement stems from knowing that fieler is being considered at RT period, because I think that’s his natural position.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Oct 2, 2021 13:23:20 GMT -7
To me It’s exciting to think the chargers are considering fieler at RT. It’s a lot easier to find a LG than a RT, so the idea that we already have our RT on the roster, IDK but it’s kind of reassuring  Another possibility, It would be easier for the chargers to trade for a quality LG than to try and find a T at this point. Guard is doable but finding a trade partner for a tackle would not only be too expensive and there just aren’t any even available. |
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Post by moekid on Oct 2, 2021 15:35:27 GMT -7
I don't think anyone of us hopes for poor play or injury. We hope for the best lineup we can put on the field. In the end, you have to ask yourself... who would you rather have on the field? Norton or Schofield? Schofield is pretty average (maybe below average) but Storm makes me down-right nervous. With Lombardi basically ignoring the running game, it seems you would need to be stronger at RT rather than LG. Moving Feiler downgrades pass pro (and run blocking) at LG. Slater- Feiler- Linsley have been working well together. Not sure I want to break that up.
I don't believe it's necessary and may not be prudent.
Storm appears to have some upside. No question that he's younger, more athletic, works hard and has improved. Schofield is on the far side of his best play and was a rough adequate then.
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Post by boltnut on Oct 3, 2021 8:27:01 GMT -7
To me It’s exciting to think the chargers are considering fieler at RT. It’s a lot easier to find a LG than a RT, so the idea that we already have our RT on the roster, IDK but it’s kind of reassuring Another possibility, It would be easier for the chargers to trade for a quality LG than to try and find a T at this point. Guard is doable but finding a trade partner for a tackle would not only be too expensive and there just aren’t any even available. Exactly. Surround the LG with Linsley and Slater. At RT, you're out there by yourself.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Oct 4, 2021 4:33:34 GMT -7
I don't think anyone of us hopes for poor play or injury. We hope for the best lineup we can put on the field. In the end, you have to ask yourself... who would you rather have on the field? Norton or Schofield? Schofield is pretty average (maybe below average) but Storm makes me down-right nervous. With Lombardi basically ignoring the running game, it seems you would need to be stronger at RT rather than LG. I don't believe it's necessary and may not be prudent.
Storm appears to have some upside. No question that he's younger, more athletic, works hard and has improved. Schofield is on the far side of his best play and was a rough adequate then.
IMO, Norton is a band aid, a very temporary solution, he’s a maxed out 27.5 year old that’s bounced around for years, if he was 22-23 then perhaps I might buy what you said, but he’s only 3.5 years younger than schofield with a tiny fraction of the experience. Yes he works hard and yes he may have improved in some things, but those things you said about norton you could say about trey too, it doesn’t mean they are NFL starters. Improvement and hard work from a low floor low ceiling player still leaves you with a subpar player. So much of what happens at guard is predicated by the quality of the center and tackles. I bet if you re-signed Lamp today and parked him between linsey and slater his PFF grades would be much higher than last year. I think it’s ludicrous to think that schofield is inferior to norton in any way, physically, mentally, experience, durabilty, etc… schofield is hands down a better all round player and while that’s not saying a whole lot, he’s still the better option RIGHT NOW. I’ll take the durable average left guard with a ton of starting experience and an above average right tackle (fieler is a better tackle than guard) on my starting five. There is no reason to keep a below average right tackle with limited experience and above average left guard playing when we can do better. I don’t know why you guys think slater is going to fall apart if fieler moves over to RT, I’ve seen nothing to make me think that’s even a possibility. Hell, you could probably put quessenberry at LG and slide fieler to RT and still come up with a better combination than the one we have now. The only thing keeping this line from being the hands down the best O-line in the AFC west is storm norton. There is nothing prudent about not putting the best combination of players up front to protect herbert, especially when we have them sitting right there on the 53 man roster.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 4, 2021 7:23:40 GMT -7
If being prudent is the wise path, and it is, we all should just accept the decisions from those that are paid to evaluate and decide these issues.
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Post by sonorajim on Oct 4, 2021 10:08:53 GMT -7
I don't believe it's necessary and may not be prudent.
Storm appears to have some upside. No question that he's younger, more athletic, works hard and has improved. Schofield is on the far side of his best play and was a rough adequate then.
IMO, Norton is a band aid, a very temporary solution, he’s a maxed out 27.5 year old that’s bounced around for years, if he was 22-23 then perhaps I might buy what you said, but he’s only 3.5 years younger than schofield with a tiny fraction of the experience. Yes he works hard and yes he may have improved in some things, but those things you said about norton you could say about trey too, it doesn’t mean they are NFL starters. Improvement and hard work from a low floor low ceiling player still leaves you with a subpar player. So much of what happens at guard is predicated by the quality of the center and tackles. I bet if you re-signed Lamp today and parked him between linsey and slater his PFF grades would be much higher than last year. I think it’s ludicrous to think that schofield is inferior to norton in any way, physically, mentally, experience, durabilty, etc… schofield is hands down a better all round player and while that’s not saying a whole lot, he’s still the better option RIGHT NOW. I’ll take the durable average left guard with a ton of starting experience and an above average right tackle (fieler is a better tackle than guard) on my starting five. There is no reason to keep a below average right tackle with limited experience and above average left guard playing when we can do better. I don’t know why you guys think slater is going to fall apart if fieler moves over to RT, I’ve seen nothing to make me think that’s even a possibility. Hell, you could probably put quessenberry at LG and slide fieler to RT and still come up with a better combination than the one we have now. The only thing keeping this line from being the hands down the best O-line in the AFC west is storm norton. There is nothing prudent about not putting the best combination of players up front to protect herbert, especially when we have them sitting right there on the 53 man roster. Trey has Not improved. Matter if fact, he's not as good as last year. Norton IS the RT starter. He would be the backup if we had a better option today. The coaches are starting the OL that they believe gives them the best opportunity to win NFL games Now. That will probably change with the return of Bulaga, or- improvement of Jaimes, or- injury to an OL. I don't know about Slater falling apart, what the heck are you drinking? What Feiler/Slater and Feiler/Linsley have going is trade-offs, protections on D stunts, gap coverages. A new guy is not going to be as good his 1st game and may never be as good (Schofield). The pass rush up an unprotected gap in front of Herbert is extremely disruptive.
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