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Post by shruggy on May 10, 2019 20:37:53 GMT -7
This is the one weak spot that might prevent us from reaching the Super Bowl. Maybe we can overcome it, especially if our Defense can shut team out. But it would be nice to see what our Offense can do with 2 seconds of extra trim for Phil.We might have the players on our roster right now that can make a difference (Lamp, Pipkins*), but Ryan Schraeder is out there. Why not sign him to a low risk, high reward type of signing? We've done it before. Schofield was one of them.Either way, this was how bad our O-line was last year.*Pipkins is supposedly a developmental player, but I'm not sure if I've heard those words come out of Telesco's mouth. With a strong camp, I can see him possibly being a potential starter. That's the reality when Tevi is starting at RT for your team.
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Post by frozendisc on May 10, 2019 20:49:40 GMT -7
The question of Pipkins starting becomes a question of is he that good, or are the starters that bad ? There is no doubt that TT's failures in drafting OL has been the anchor holding the ship tight to the dock.......fix the OL, fix the offence in general.
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Post by shruggy on May 10, 2019 21:38:51 GMT -7
If it turns out that Pipkins really was a developmental pick, and needs about a year or two to turn out to be this great RT, I wouldn't be mad at that. It's hard to find quality tackles in this league.
But being pleasantly surprised that our 3d round pick can actually contribute this year is a whole lot better than not being mad.
Feeney could take a leap after playing his first full season at LG. He wouldn't be the first O-lineman to get better early on in his career.
Okung-Feeney-Pouncey-Lamp-Schofield looks like the best we can get with the current players on our roster, and that's contingent on whether or not Lamp has put his injury behind him and impresses in camp.
Schofield has played RT before, for the Broncos. And he wasn't that good. I'm just hoping he's better than Tevi at RT, and that having the right guard to the left of him improves his play. (Kind of like moving Clary inside, and having Fluker to the right of him, seems to have worked out for a while. Clary played better, anyway.)
There's a lot of FA and post-camp cuts yet to have happened, so who knows what else ends up happening.
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Post by frozendisc on May 11, 2019 6:48:21 GMT -7
There will be plenty of 'God only knows' questions going into TC 2019 as far as the OL group goes. My biggest concern is Okung. Not Okung himself, but the drop in available OT talent should Okung be lost for any long amount of time. What are the options as it stands today....Tevi, Schofield, Lamp....or Pipkins.....absolutely scary.
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Post by xenos on May 11, 2019 9:04:07 GMT -7
This is the one weak spot that might prevent us from reaching the Super Bowl. Maybe we can overcome it, especially if our Defense can shut team out. But it would be nice to see what our Offense can do with 2 seconds of extra trim for Phil.We might have the players on our roster right now that can make a difference (Lamp, Pipkins*), but Ryan Schraeder is out there. Why not sign him to a low risk, high reward type of signing? We've done it before. Schofield was one of them.Either way, this was how bad our O-line was last year.*Pipkins is supposedly a developmental player, but I'm not sure if I've heard those words come out of Telesco's mouth. With a strong camp, I can see him possibly being a potential starter. That's the reality when Tevi is starting at RT for your team. So what happened from Week 10 onwards to expose this OL?
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Post by xenos on May 11, 2019 9:06:26 GMT -7
There will be plenty of 'God only knows' questions going into TC 2019 as far as the OL group goes. My biggest concern is Okung. Not Okung himself, but the drop in available OT talent should Okung be lost for any long amount of time. What are the options as it stands today....Tevi, Schofield, Lamp....or Pipkins.....absolutely scary. We definitely saw him missing some time last year. Thank goodness that it wasn't that long, and we never got to see if Trent Scott was good or bad.
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Post by boltnut on May 11, 2019 12:33:28 GMT -7
This is the one weak spot that might prevent us from reaching the Super Bowl. Maybe we can overcome it, especially if our Defense can shut team out. But it would be nice to see what our Offense can do with 2 seconds of extra trim for Phil.We might have the players on our roster right now that can make a difference (Lamp, Pipkins*), but Ryan Schraeder is out there. Why not sign him to a low risk, high reward type of signing? We've done it before. Schofield was one of them.Either way, this was how bad our O-line was last year.*Pipkins is supposedly a developmental player, but I'm not sure if I've heard those words come out of Telesco's mouth. With a strong camp, I can see him possibly being a potential starter. That's the reality when Tevi is starting at RT for your team. So what happened from Week 10 onwards to expose this OL? Weeks 1-10, we played against teams that weren't so good rushing the passer... Raiders twice (32), Bills (26), 49ers (T-22), Browns (T-22), Titans (T-16), Rams (T-16). Weeks 11-playoffs, we played some better pass rushing teams... Broncos twice (T-8), Cards (T-5), Steelers (T-1), Ravens twice (T-11).
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Post by totallybolted on May 11, 2019 13:05:56 GMT -7
I was wondering if there was an injury in the seattle game week 9 that wasn't reported, or was but was considered minor. Seattle was a rough game, coming down to the last few seconds. That game could have taken a toll.
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Post by Chargeroo on May 11, 2019 15:06:58 GMT -7
So what happened from Week 10 onwards to expose this OL? Weeks 1-10, we played against teams that weren't so good rushing the passer... Raiders twice (32), Bills (26), 49ers (T-22), Browns (T-22), Titans (T-16), Rams (T-16). Weeks 11-playoffs, we played some better pass rushing teams... Broncos twice (T-8), Cards (T-5), Steelers (T-1), Ravens twice (T-11). I also think lack of depth played it's part. Those five starters were playing all game, game after game because the backups couldn't be trusted. Unless Pipkins can turn out to be a good starting RT and Lamp can beat out Schofield I don't think were are any better off this year. We're paying the price for all the times that we passed on a good OT in the draft.
Overall, I doubt the offense will be any better this year than last year because of the OL.
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Post by Chargeroo on May 11, 2019 15:13:26 GMT -7
<abbr>Deleting double post</abbr>
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Post by totallybolted on May 11, 2019 15:27:27 GMT -7
Just looking at the rankings. Overall the SB winning Pats Off=3rd vs Chargers Off=12th, Pats D=9th, Chargers=3rd.
I though D won championships!? 3RD is prett darn good for a Defense. They can stay right there. The Bolts are close. If the Offense was a little better....
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Post by sonorajim on May 11, 2019 17:18:18 GMT -7
Games are decided by points on the scoreboard. Chargers were 6th ppg scored, 8th ppg allowed. Too many games missed by D starters, key backups. We improved D starters & depth on paper. Should be better.
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Post by boltgang74 on May 11, 2019 18:49:52 GMT -7
The cold hard truth is this o line has to improve for us to have any chance at a bowl appearance in the Rivers era.Hope we snag a few gems after final cuts to bolster Philips protection.
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Post by frozendisc on May 11, 2019 19:37:05 GMT -7
Weeks 1-10, we played against teams that weren't so good rushing the passer... Raiders twice (32), Bills (26), 49ers (T-22), Browns (T-22), Titans (T-16), Rams (T-16). Weeks 11-playoffs, we played some better pass rushing teams... Broncos twice (T-8), Cards (T-5), Steelers (T-1), Ravens twice (T-11). I also think lack of depth played it's part. Those five starters were playing all game, game after game because the backups couldn't be trusted. Unless Pipkins can turn out to be a good starting RT and Lamp can beat out Schofield I don't think were are any better off this year. We're paying the price for all the times that we passed on a good OT in the draft.
Overall, I doubt the offense will be any better this year than last year because of the OL.
The offence will clearly regress, after all, we lost TW..... Okung and Pouncy are the only guys with assured positions, the other three OL spots should be up for grabs in TC 2019.....but that isn't AL's style, so you are probably correct, stuck with a similar performance from the OL.
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Post by frozendisc on May 11, 2019 19:45:51 GMT -7
Just looking at the rankings. Overall the SB winning Pats Off=3rd vs Chargers Off=12th, Pats D=9th, Chargers=3rd. I though D won championships!? 3RD is prett darn good for a Defense. They can stay right there. The Bolts are close. If the Offense was a little better.... Your quip about D winning championships is disingenuous, as the Bolts' D was decimated by injuries. 3rd is pretty solid.....hope they stay there. TT has the hard part before him......getting the O, D and ST's to play high level all at once. Then all he needs is health and luck.....
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