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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 4, 2021 10:20:11 GMT -7
I don’t know if you guys caught the press conference, I missed it too but the guys from ‘guilty as charged’ were talking about the presser and apparently the team has changed their stance on how to fill the RT spot going forward in case norton goes down to injury. So instead of leaving fieler at his LG spot and plugging in pipkins at RT, the team is now prepared to slide fieler over to RT and play schofield at LG!!! THIS IS HUGE GUYS!!! This means that fieler to RT is now a thing and if they are considering it in case of a norton injury. I can only wonder if it also means they have considered it if norton is unable to show more consistency from game to game. For them to even talk about it at a press conference means that they feel schofield is comfortable with the offense already! This is bigtime because schofield has a ton of experience. talk about leveling up the offensive line, this is exactly what I’ve been wishing for since we signed fieler. I honestly believed his arrival back in march meant bulaga was out because his best work in pittsburg came at RT. Perhaps soon we’ll be able to see what it’s like having two very good tackles on our offensive line!!! If this comes to pass I’d have to go back to the days of harry swayne and stan brock for a comparison and slater/fieler would be better IMO. That’s saying something since swayne/brock played for a superbowl team. This might sound like they don’t like jaimes but the coaches refuted that at the presser basically saying they just don’t feel comfortable playing the two rookies side by side at this time. Anyways, I’m really excited because I’m really looking forward to seeing fieler at RT! DUDE IS A BEAST!!! Sounds like you are hoping Norton plays poorly, or gets injured, so you get to see your musical chairs play out....... I cannot believe I am forced to do this.............But....musical chairs fantasies ARE Nominated POTD.
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 4, 2021 10:21:33 GMT -7
To me It’s exciting to think the chargers are considering fieler at RT. It’s a lot easier to find a LG than a RT, so the idea that we already have our RT on the roster, IDK but it’s kind of reassuring  Another possibility, It would be easier for the chargers to trade for a quality LG than to try and find a T at this point. Guard is doable but finding a trade partner for a tackle would not only be too expensive and there just aren’t any even available. They are ? Source please.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Oct 4, 2021 10:47:18 GMT -7
IMO, Norton is a band aid, a very temporary solution, he’s a maxed out 27.5 year old that’s bounced around for years, if he was 22-23 then perhaps I might buy what you said, but he’s only 3.5 years younger than schofield with a tiny fraction of the experience. Yes he works hard and yes he may have improved in some things, but those things you said about norton you could say about trey too, it doesn’t mean they are NFL starters. Improvement and hard work from a low floor low ceiling player still leaves you with a subpar player. So much of what happens at guard is predicated by the quality of the center and tackles. I bet if you re-signed Lamp today and parked him between linsey and slater his PFF grades would be much higher than last year. I think it’s ludicrous to think that schofield is inferior to norton in any way, physically, mentally, experience, durabilty, etc… schofield is hands down a better all round player and while that’s not saying a whole lot, he’s still the better option RIGHT NOW. I’ll take the durable average left guard with a ton of starting experience and an above average right tackle (fieler is a better tackle than guard) on my starting five. There is no reason to keep a below average right tackle with limited experience and above average left guard playing when we can do better. I don’t know why you guys think slater is going to fall apart if fieler moves over to RT, I’ve seen nothing to make me think that’s even a possibility. Hell, you could probably put quessenberry at LG and slide fieler to RT and still come up with a better combination than the one we have now. The only thing keeping this line from being the hands down the best O-line in the AFC west is storm norton. There is nothing prudent about not putting the best combination of players up front to protect herbert, especially when we have them sitting right there on the 53 man roster.Trey has Not improved. Matter if fact, he's not as good as last year. Norton IS the RT starter. He would be the backup if we had a better option today. The coaches are starting the OL that they believe gives them the best opportunity to win NFL games Now. That will probably change with the return of Bulaga, or- improvement of Jaimes, or- injury to an OL.
I thought Norton was the swing tackle? I’m pretty sure he outplayed pipkins to become the swing tackle but it’s not like he beat out bulaga to earn the starting RT spot. A couple of days after bulaga went down during the Washington game, the chargers went out and signed Schofield. And then two weeks later the head coach mentioned in a press conference that they have a plan in place to start schofield at left guard and slide fieler to right tackle in case norton gets hurt. Then we find out bulaga had some kind of back “procedure” so starting a norton for a 3 weeks while bulaga came off IR kinda went out the window. Thing is, if they already have that contingency in place in case norton gets banged up, what’s to stop them from exercising it in case norton has another game like the one he had against dallas? And why would any charger fan be opposed to the charger coaches making that move if it means stabilizing the O-line and giving herbert the best protection possible? This is no longer something that I’m wishing for or whatever, this is something the coaching staff has taken time to work on, so it could just be a matter of time.
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 4, 2021 11:02:14 GMT -7
Trey has Not improved. Matter if fact, he's not as good as last year. Norton IS the RT starter. He would be the backup if we had a better option today. The coaches are starting the OL that they believe gives them the best opportunity to win NFL games Now. That will probably change with the return of Bulaga, or- improvement of Jaimes, or- injury to an OL.
I thought Norton was the swing tackle? I’m pretty sure he outplayed pipkins to become the swing tackle but it’s not like he beat out bulaga to earn the starting RT spot. A couple of days after bulaga went down during the Washington game, the chargers went out and signed Schofield. And then two weeks later the head coach mentioned in a press conference that they have a plan in place to start schofield at left guard and slide fieler to right tackle in case norton gets hurt. Then we find out bulaga had some kind of back “procedure” so starting a norton for a 3 weeks while bulaga came off IR kinda went out the window. Thing is, if they already have that contingency in place in case norton gets banged up, what’s to stop them from exercising it in case norton has another game like the one he had against dallas? And why would any charger fan be opposed to the charger coaches making that move if it means stabilizing the O-line and giving herbert the best protection possible?This is no longer something that I’m wishing for or whatever, this is something the coaching staff has taken time to work on, so it could just be a matter of time. Having a game like KC is what can stop them from exercising it. Most fans know if Feiler is playing lights out at LG, and he is, you don't shuffle multiple people around. You LEAVE success where you have it. That is all.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 4, 2021 11:06:45 GMT -7
Trey has Not improved. Matter if fact, he's not as good as last year. Norton IS the RT starter. He would be the backup if we had a better option today. The coaches are starting the OL that they believe gives them the best opportunity to win NFL games Now. That will probably change with the return of Bulaga, or- improvement of Jaimes, or- injury to an OL.
I thought Norton was the swing tackle? I’m pretty sure he outplayed pipkins to become the swing tackle but it’s not like he beat out bulaga to earn the starting RT spot. A couple of days after bulaga went down during the Washington game, the chargers went out and signed Schofield. And then two weeks later the head coach mentioned in a press conference that they have a plan in place to start schofield at left guard and slide fieler to right tackle in case norton gets hurt. Then we find out bulaga had some kind of back “procedure” so starting a norton for a 3 weeks while bulaga came off IR kinda went out the window. Thing is, if they already have that contingency in place in case norton gets banged up, what’s to stop them from exercising it in case norton has another game like the one he had against dallas? And why would any charger fan be opposed to the charger coaches making that move if it means stabilizing the O-line and giving herbert the best protection possible? This is no longer something that I’m wishing for or whatever, this is something the coaching staff has taken time to work on, so it could just be a matter of time. How often will this need to be pointed out to you? Norton is the reserve ROT, Pipkins the reserve LOT.....nothing has changed, they still are.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Oct 4, 2021 11:14:57 GMT -7
To me It’s exciting to think the chargers are considering fieler at RT. It’s a lot easier to find a LG than a RT, so the idea that we already have our RT on the roster, IDK but it’s kind of reassuring Another possibility, It would be easier for the chargers to trade for a quality LG than to try and find a T at this point. Guard is doable but finding a trade partner for a tackle would not only be too expensive and there just aren’t any even available. They are ? Source please. They start talking about the bulaga injury around minute 28 but by minute 34 steve talks about staley’s comments and the charger coaches’ shift from “fieler stays at left guard regardless” to “new plan is to move schofield to left guard and fieler to right tackle” in case of injury to norton. here is the link:
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 4, 2021 11:28:31 GMT -7
They are ? Source please. They start talking about the bulaga injury around minute 28 but by minute 34 steve talks about staley’s comments and the charger coaches’ shift from “fieler stays at left guard regardless” to “new plan is to move schofield to left guard and fieler to right tackle” in case of injury to norton. here is the link: Which merely reaffirms Norton. Thanks
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 4, 2021 19:31:14 GMT -7
They are ? Source please. They start talking about the bulaga injury around minute 28 but by minute 34 steve talks about staley’s comments and the charger coaches’ shift from “fieler stays at left guard regardless” to “new plan is to move schofield to left guard and fieler to right tackle” in case of injury to norton. here is the link: I suppose when a club is on their third ROT, anything goes......until then, Fieler is a OG.
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Post by lazylightning on Oct 4, 2021 21:00:06 GMT -7
They start talking about the bulaga injury around minute 28 but by minute 34 steve talks about staley’s comments and the charger coaches’ shift from “fieler stays at left guard regardless” to “new plan is to move schofield to left guard and fieler to right tackle” in case of injury to norton. here is the link: I suppose when a club is on their third ROT, anything goes......until then, Fieler is a OG. Looks like Fieler has been struggling at LG. Move him to RT
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 5, 2021 6:16:13 GMT -7
I suppose when a club is on their third ROT, anything goes......until then, Fieler is a OG. Looks like Fieler has been struggling at LG. Move him to RT That was a pretty solid defensive line he faced....and he wasn't the only OL that had difficult moments. As far as playing musical chairs with the OL, I will just trust the coaching staff......
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 5, 2021 6:24:28 GMT -7
Looks like Fieler has been struggling at LG. Move him to RT That was a pretty solid defensive line he faced....and he wasn't the only OL that had difficult moments. As far as playing musical chairs with the OL, I will just trust the coaching staff...... It gets worse this week. Myles Garrett and company are coming for a visit. Garrett lines up right over Norton........spooky.
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Post by frozendisc on Oct 5, 2021 6:36:53 GMT -7
That was a pretty solid defensive line he faced....and he wasn't the only OL that had difficult moments. As far as playing musical chairs with the OL, I will just trust the coaching staff...... It gets worse this week. Myles Garrett and company are coming for a visit. Garrett lines up right over Norton........spooky. There are no easy games......eh
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 5, 2021 6:48:09 GMT -7
It gets worse this week. Myles Garrett and company are coming for a visit. Garrett lines up right over Norton........spooky. There are no easy games......eh No there isn't. But the first half of our schedule looks like murderers row.
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Post by fouts2herbert on Oct 5, 2021 6:55:15 GMT -7
That was a pretty solid defensive line he faced....and he wasn't the only OL that had difficult moments. As far as playing musical chairs with the OL, I will just trust the coaching staff...... It gets worse this week. Myles Garrett and company are coming for a visit. Garrett lines up right over Norton........spooky. Norton was basically as I expected, he played well when the chargers modified the play calls to gave him a helper. Whenever he was alone he got annihilated which negatively affected several important plays. He’s a liability, he limits plays because he requires help and he negatively affects plays when left alone. He blocked well in the run game tho, but way way WAY too inconsistent. It is what it is, we're so close!!! our offense is a decent RT away from being one of the scariest units in the NFL
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Post by chargerfreak on Oct 5, 2021 7:00:31 GMT -7
It gets worse this week. Myles Garrett and company are coming for a visit. Garrett lines up right over Norton........spooky. Norton was basically as I expected, he played well when the chargers modified the play calls to gave him a helper. Whenever he was alone he got annihilated which negatively affected several important plays. He’s a liability, he limits plays because he requires help and he negatively affects plays when left alone. He blocked well in the run game tho, but way way WAY too inconsistent. It is what it is, we're so close!!! our offense is a decent RT away from being one of the scariest units in the NFL Post denied. You will now go buy a Storm Norton Jersey and wear it for 5.1 days. Emp rules are final. No appeals.
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