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Post by chargerfreak on May 4, 2020 7:14:05 GMT -7
I can't believe the Patriots haven't gone after a QB, I'm rooting for Stidham though... He came from Baylor and the Waco area (where I live now). Its not Belichick's Way. Nobody was sure, because Brady was there for 51 years. But finding players no one else saw, is Bill's forte. Why not at QB too. Stidham had first round talk on him after his Sophomore year. Auburn went 8-5 the next year, and he fell down the draft."a really dysfunctional offense this year. The offensive line was bad, the receivers couldn't get open and the coaching was a big problem " Patriots took him in the 4th round. You better believe Billy had his eye on this guy. Terrific Texas High School football career. Stidham was the star of the Bleacher Report documentary, “Meet Jarrett Stidham, the King of Friday Night Lights in Texas”. I heard a scout say there was a big High School Senior's Combine event. It's called Elite 11. Stidham was there with the likes of Blake Barnett, Kyler Murray, and Josh Rosen. The scout said he and other scouts felt Stidham not only threw the best football at the event, they felt he should have won it too.
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Post by afboltfan on May 4, 2020 8:16:15 GMT -7
Def another feather in the cap for Belichick vs. Brady if he can win with Stidham.
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Post by chargerfreak on May 4, 2020 12:04:46 GMT -7
Yes, they are- in fact I think Buffalo may be the favorite to win the AFC East this year! And there a tons of variables such as the other teams improving while the Pats are older and declining, not allowed to cheat anymore, didn't draft a QB, etc; and on the TB12 side the variables are he's on a new team, new system, he's older, declining arm strength, walked into the wrong locker room, injuries, blah blah blah But my question remains- despite all these 'built-in excuses' for Belichick and Brady, if one or both of them struggle will the sentiment be "Belichick couldn't win without Brady so therefore he's not as great of a coach as we thought" or "Brady can't win without Belichick so therefore he's not as great as we thought"? ? ? They are both GOATS. Nothing will change that, because of what they have already accomplished. I don't know the direct tie in to your question, but its important to remember the following: All (almost all ?) great QB's, had great head coaches. Montana_ Bill Walsh. Steve Young-Bill Walsh. Dan Fouts-Don Coryell. Dan Marino- Don Shula. Troy Aikman- Jimmy Johnson. Terry Bradshaw-Chuck Noll. You are not getting to greatness without winning. Takes HC for winning. And like the Angel of Death, I just read Don Shula died ?!?!?!!? me scared RIP Don.
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Post by ohioboltfan on May 4, 2020 14:17:49 GMT -7
They are both GOATS. Nothing will change that, because of what they have already accomplished. I don't know the direct tie in to your question, but its important to remember the following: All (almost all ?) great QB's, had great head coaches. Montana_ Bill Walsh. Steve Young-Bill Walsh. Dan Fouts-Don Coryell. Dan Marino- Don Shula. Troy Aikman- Jimmy Johnson. Terry Bradshaw-Chuck Noll. You are not getting to greatness without winning. Takes HC for winning. And like the Angel of Death, I just read Don Shula died ?!?!?!!? me scared RIP Don. Yes, RIP Don Shula! There's something even sadder upon realizing this is being said in a Patriots thread. 
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Post by chargerfreak on May 5, 2020 2:37:29 GMT -7
And like the Angel of Death, I just read Don Shula died ?!?!?!!? me scared RIP Don. Yes, RIP Don Shula! There's something even sadder upon realizing this is being said in a Patriots thread. Nah, its ok. You have to realize how long Belichick has coached. He knows SO many people in the NFL. I'm sure he had great respect for Don. Coach Shula's career numbers are Crazy. Like, crazy, crazy numbers. This is just some: Shula set numerous records in his 33 seasons as a head coach. He is the all-time leader in victories with 347. He is first in most games coached (526), most consecutive seasons coached (33), and Super Bowl losses (four, tied with Bud Grant, Dan Reeves, and Marv Levy). 347 wins ?? Nuts !!
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Post by totallybolted on May 5, 2020 5:31:49 GMT -7
Yes, RIP Don Shula! There's something even sadder upon realizing this is being said in a Patriots thread. Nah, its ok. You have to realize how long Belichick has coached. He knows SO many people in the NFL. I'm sure he had great respect for Don. Coach Shula's career numbers are Crazy. Like, crazy, crazy numbers. This is just some: Shula set numerous records in his 33 seasons as a head coach. He is the all-time leader in victories with 347. He is first in most games coached (526), most consecutive seasons coached (33), and Super Bowl losses (four, tied with Bud Grant, Dan Reeves, and Marv Levy). 347 wins ?? Nuts !! More; Miami won 66% of its games with 16 playoff bids and five Super Bowl appearances -- including back-to-back titles -- during Shula's 26 seasons as coach (1970-95). Miami was 3-10-1 in 69. Shula started the 70 season. In Shula's first five seasons, his teams made five consecutive playoff appearances with four AFC East titles, three Super Bowl appearances and two championships. Record: Regular season: 328–156–6 (.676) Postseason: 19–17 (.528) Career: 347–173–6 (.665) Awards 2× Super Bowl champion (VII, VIII) NFL champion (1968) 4× AP NFL Coach of the Year (1964, 1967, 1968, 1972) Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (1993) NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team NFL 1970s All-Decade Team Miami Dolphins Honor Roll NFL records Most regular season wins as a head coach (328) Most total wins as a head coach (347) Only undefeated season through regular season and playoffs
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Post by chargerfreak on May 5, 2020 5:59:10 GMT -7
Nah, its ok. You have to realize how long Belichick has coached. He knows SO many people in the NFL. I'm sure he had great respect for Don. Coach Shula's career numbers are Crazy. Like, crazy, crazy numbers. This is just some: Shula set numerous records in his 33 seasons as a head coach. He is the all-time leader in victories with 347. He is first in most games coached (526), most consecutive seasons coached (33), and Super Bowl losses (four, tied with Bud Grant, Dan Reeves, and Marv Levy). 347 wins ?? Nuts !! More; Miami won 66% of its games with 16 playoff bids and five Super Bowl appearances -- including back-to-back titles -- during Shula's 26 seasons as coach (1970-95). Miami was 3-10-1 in 69. Shula started the 70 season. In Shula's first five seasons, his teams made five consecutive playoff appearances with four AFC East titles, three Super Bowl appearances and two championships. Record: Regular season: 328–156–6 (.676) Postseason: 19–17 (.528) Career: 347–173–6 (.665) Awards 2× Super Bowl champion (VII, VIII) NFL champion (1968) 4× AP NFL Coach of the Year (1964, 1967, 1968, 1972) Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (1993) NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team NFL 1970s All-Decade Team Miami Dolphins Honor Roll NFL records Most regular season wins as a head coach (328) Most total wins as a head coach (347) Only undefeated season through regular season and playoffs What Legends are made of.
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Post by joemcrugby on May 5, 2020 12:53:05 GMT -7
Saddened by the great coach’s passing, but I still get a smile remembering the 1994 divisional round playoff game at the Q.
The NFL banned the teams from going on walkthrough practices the day before the game because the fields were soaked. Shula threw a fit, so the NFL allowed the Dolphins to have their walkthrough while Shula was driving his motorized wheelchair on the field due to a torn Achilles, thereby tearing up the turf in the process.
After the Chargers stormed back from a 21-6 halftime deficit to take a 22-21 lead (Mark Seay’s TD reception) with under a minute left, one last gawd-awful call (bogus 35 yard PI) put the Fins in winning FG range. For the record, that was one of two instances in my marriage when I let loose a string of curses so long and strong that my wife was wondering who she had married.
Unfortunately for the Dolphins, the attempt took place in one of the areas that Shula’s wheelchair had torn up, and the kick wasn’t even close.
And on to Pittsburgh that magical season went!!
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Post by moekid on May 5, 2020 13:06:30 GMT -7
Saddened by the great coach’s passing, but I still get a smile remembering the 1994 divisional round playoff game at the Q. The NFL banned the teams from going on walkthrough practices the day before the game because the fields were soaked. Shula threw a fit, so the NFL allowed the Dolphins to have their walkthrough while Shula was driving his motorized wheelchair on the field due to a torn Achilles, thereby tearing up the turf in the process. After the Chargers stormed back from a 21-6 halftime deficit to take a 22-21 lead (Mark Seay’s TD reception) with under a minute left, one last gawd-awful call (bogus 35 yard PI) put the Fins in winning FG range. For the record, that was one of two instances in my marriage when I let loose a string of curses so long and strong that my wife was wondering who she had married. Unfortunately for the Dolphins, the attempt took place in one of the areas that Shula’s wheelchair had torn up, and the kick wasn’t even close. And on to Pittsburgh that magical season went!! That game against Milano was one of my favorite all time Charger games. |
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Post by chargerfreak on May 5, 2020 13:41:00 GMT -7
Yes. 26 YEARS ago was magical..................
REACT WHEN HALF OUR ROSTER WASN'T EVEN BORN YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ohioboltfan on May 5, 2020 15:23:45 GMT -7
Saddened by the great coach’s passing, but I still get a smile remembering the 1994 divisional round playoff game at the Q. The NFL banned the teams from going on walkthrough practices the day before the game because the fields were soaked. Shula threw a fit, so the NFL allowed the Dolphins to have their walkthrough while Shula was driving his motorized wheelchair on the field due to a torn Achilles, thereby tearing up the turf in the process. After the Chargers stormed back from a 21-6 halftime deficit to take a 22-21 lead (Mark Seay’s TD reception) with under a minute left, one last gawd-awful call (bogus 35 yard PI) put the Fins in winning FG range. For the record, that was one of two instances in my marriage when I let loose a string of curses so long and strong that my wife was wondering who she had married. Unfortunately for the Dolphins, the attempt took place in one of the areas that Shula’s wheelchair had torn up, and the kick wasn’t even close. And on to Pittsburgh that magical season went!! Cool story Joe.
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Post by joemcrugby on May 5, 2020 16:22:47 GMT -7
Saddened by the great coach’s passing, but I still get a smile remembering the 1994 divisional round playoff game at the Q. The NFL banned the teams from going on walkthrough practices the day before the game because the fields were soaked. Shula threw a fit, so the NFL allowed the Dolphins to have their walkthrough while Shula was driving his motorized wheelchair on the field due to a torn Achilles, thereby tearing up the turf in the process. After the Chargers stormed back from a 21-6 halftime deficit to take a 22-21 lead (Mark Seay’s TD reception) with under a minute left, one last gawd-awful call (bogus 35 yard PI) put the Fins in winning FG range. For the record, that was one of two instances in my marriage when I let loose a string of curses so long and strong that my wife was wondering who she had married. Unfortunately for the Dolphins, the attempt took place in one of the areas that Shula’s wheelchair had torn up, and the kick wasn’t even close. And on to Pittsburgh that magical season went!! That game against Marino was one of my favorite all time Charger games. Natrone Means Business!!  I believe that game was a driving force in bringing back replay not too long after. I have never in my life see a white man look so red as Boss Ross did when the officials were explaining to him that the Keith Jackson fumble as he was hit while trying to lateral to a teammate was reversed and called an illegal forward pass more than 20 yards downfield. I thought we were going to lose our coach to a stroke! Years ago, Chargeroo sent me a VHS of the telecast (AFC Championship game in Pittsburgh as well) and I transferred them to a DVD. I’ll need to pull them out of my dresser and rewatch them this weekend! 🍺
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Post by joemcrugby on May 5, 2020 16:26:56 GMT -7
Saddened by the great coach’s passing, but I still get a smile remembering the 1994 divisional round playoff game at the Q. The NFL banned the teams from going on walkthrough practices the day before the game because the fields were soaked. Shula threw a fit, so the NFL allowed the Dolphins to have their walkthrough while Shula was driving his motorized wheelchair on the field due to a torn Achilles, thereby tearing up the turf in the process. After the Chargers stormed back from a 21-6 halftime deficit to take a 22-21 lead (Mark Seay’s TD reception) with under a minute left, one last gawd-awful call (bogus 35 yard PI) put the Fins in winning FG range. For the record, that was one of two instances in my marriage when I let loose a string of curses so long and strong that my wife was wondering who she had married. Unfortunately for the Dolphins, the attempt took place in one of the areas that Shula’s wheelchair had torn up, and the kick wasn’t even close. And on to Pittsburgh that magical season went!! Cool story Joe. The 1994 season was incredible, starting with the opener against Elway & the Broncos on Sunday night (came back from a 20 point first half deficit, and ended with Junior catching an Elway fumble/int near the Chargers goal line) all the way up until they ran into the juggernaut Niners in the Super Bowl. Fun memories!! 🍺 |
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Post by moekid on May 5, 2020 18:52:08 GMT -7
That game against Marino was one of my favorite all time Charger games. Natrone Means Business!! I believe that game was a driving force in bringing back replay not too long after. I have never in my life see a white man look so red as Boss Ross did when the officials were explaining to him that the Keith Jackson fumble as he was hit while trying to lateral to a teammate was reversed and called an illegal forward pass more than 20 yards downfield. I thought we were going to lose our coach to a stroke! Years ago, Chargeroo sent me a VHS of the telecast (AFC Championship game in Pittsburgh as well) and I transferred them to a DVD. I’ll need to pull them out of my dresser and rewatch them this weekend! 🍺 There was a Natrone TD that would have been reversed on replay as well. |
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Post by joemcrugby on May 5, 2020 19:37:42 GMT -7
Natrone Means Business!! I believe that game was a driving force in bringing back replay not too long after. I have never in my life see a white man look so red as Boss Ross did when the officials were explaining to him that the Keith Jackson fumble as he was hit while trying to lateral to a teammate was reversed and called an illegal forward pass more than 20 yards downfield. I thought we were going to lose our coach to a stroke! Years ago, Chargeroo sent me a VHS of the telecast (AFC Championship game in Pittsburgh as well) and I transferred them to a DVD. I’ll need to pull them out of my dresser and rewatch them this weekend! 🍺 There was a Natrone TD that would have been reversed on replay as well. Yes, there was a Means fumble call near the end zone that became very important, but it wasn’t a TD. Trailing 21-6, Means fumbled inside the 1 going for the pylon on the first megalong drive of the 2nd half that looked like it went out of bounds in the end zone. It would have been marked at the 20 had the call gone that way. Instead, the Chargers turned it over on downs inside the 1 when Means got stuffed on 4th & goal on the next play. Marino led the Dolphins on three long TD drives in the first half, but the Dolphins only had one snap in the 3rd quarter when they were stuffed on a run for a safety on the ensuing play making it 21-8. Following the free kick, Natrone & the Bolts marched on another long time-consuming TD drive to make the score 21-15 in the 4th quarter. There were numerous bad calls during the game with most going against the Chargers, but that mark of the Natrone fumble was a huge one as far as momentum goes as the safety was the turning point of the game. |
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