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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 6, 2019 4:32:04 GMT -7
When I say backwater Toronto, and the superstars want to go to the spotlight of LA. That's what I mean boys. In the 35 years that the Clippers have been in LA, they’ve yet to spend a day in the spotlight. So if that’s what you mean, that’s some pretty good stuff... Danny Green wants some LA too ?? Just admit what I told you is true while it plays out right now before you.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 6, 2019 4:52:23 GMT -7
In the 35 years that the Clippers have been in LA, they’ve yet to spend a day in the spotlight. So if that’s what you mean, that’s some pretty good stuff... Danny Green wants some LA too ?? Just admit what I told you is true while it plays out right now before you. First of all, I predicted a long time ago, and stated multiple times that I figured Danny was as good as gone. That was due to the Raptors cap situation, not because he wanted to leave. Unlike Kawhi, Danny is not worth the Raptors paying a luxury tax penalty over, so I would have been very surprised to see that happen. He was solid & reliable for most of this past season, but flamed out big time in the playoffs (especially the last two series), and lost a ton of playing time to the way more effective Fred VanVleet as a result. Second, the reason why he was still on the board, is because he was waiting on Kawhi’s decision. If Kawhi was going back to the Raptors, Danny would be begging for them to allow him back, and probably play for a discount in order for a chance at a back to back. So in the end, he chose to hitch onto LeBron’s wagon, instead of going to the Dallas Mavericks (he had no offer from the Raptors to return). It has nothing to do with wanting “LA spotlight”, and the fact that he won’t be back with the Raptors doesn’t phase me one bit, as I never expected (or even hoped for) it.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 6, 2019 5:06:46 GMT -7
Danny Green wants some LA too ?? Just admit what I told you is true while it plays out right now before you. First of all, I predicted a long time ago, and stated multiple times that I figured Danny was as good as gone. That was due to the Raptors cap situation, not because he wanted to leave. Unlike Kawhi, Danny is not worth the Raptors paying a luxury tax penalty over, so I would have been very surprised to see that happen. He was solid & reliable for most of this past season, but flamed out big time in the playoffs (especially the last two series), and lost a ton of playing time to the way more effective Fred VanVleet as a result. Second, the reason why he was still on the board, is because he was waiting on Kawhi’s decision. If Kawhi was going back to the Raptors, Danny would be begging for them to allow him back, and probably play for a discount in order for a chance at a back to back. So in the end, he chose to hitch onto LeBron’s wagon, instead of going to the Dallas Mavericks (he had no offer from the Raptors to return). It has nothing to do with wanting “LA spotlight”, and the fact that he won’t be back with the Raptors doesn’t phase me one bit, as I never expected (or even hoped for) it. I mean seriously dude, there is no talking to you if you can't admit what is in the headlines and happening. Sorry.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 6, 2019 5:29:58 GMT -7
First of all, I predicted a long time ago, and stated multiple times that I figured Danny was as good as gone. That was due to the Raptors cap situation, not because he wanted to leave. Unlike Kawhi, Danny is not worth the Raptors paying a luxury tax penalty over, so I would have been very surprised to see that happen. He was solid & reliable for most of this past season, but flamed out big time in the playoffs (especially the last two series), and lost a ton of playing time to the way more effective Fred VanVleet as a result. Second, the reason why he was still on the board, is because he was waiting on Kawhi’s decision. If Kawhi was going back to the Raptors, Danny would be begging for them to allow him back, and probably play for a discount in order for a chance at a back to back. So in the end, he chose to hitch onto LeBron’s wagon, instead of going to the Dallas Mavericks (he had no offer from the Raptors to return). It has nothing to do with wanting “LA spotlight”, and the fact that he won’t be back with the Raptors doesn’t phase me one bit, as I never expected (or even hoped for) it. I mean seriously dude, there is no talking to you if you can't admit what is in the headlines and happening. Sorry. You’re not trying to talk to anyone, you’re here to troll, and doing a sorry job at that. You don’t even follow Basketball. There is nothing to admit. Everything I said above in regards to Danny is true. In regards to Kawhi, I never said the Clippers wouldn’t land him. I pointed out a lot of reasons why it would make great sense for him to resign with the Raptors, but it didn’t happen (and he did leave $50 million on the table as a result). But it was his decision to make, and while I don’t like it, I respect it. You’re clearly disappointed by my respectful reaction, so you’re desperately trying to troll harder, but it’s been a fail as it’s only made yourself look foolish. You know nothing about Basketball, and even less about trolling.
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Post by LIGHTS OUT on Jul 6, 2019 6:45:32 GMT -7
I think there is a part of him that wants to bring the Clippers their first championship and choose his destination. And wouldn't the perfect strategy be to wait it out and screw the Lakers a bit before signing with the Clippers. The Clippers have the roster and coaching to provide some "load management". I am not happy I was right on this one. I wanted Kawhi to stay in Toronto. At least it wasn't the Lakers. |
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 6, 2019 6:58:11 GMT -7
I think there is a part of him that wants to bring the Clippers their first championship and choose his destination. And wouldn't the perfect strategy be to wait it out and screw the Lakers a bit before signing with the Clippers. The Clippers have the roster and coaching to provide some "load management". I am not happy I was right on this one. I wanted Kawhi to stay in Toronto. At least it wasn't the Lakers. Yeah, I can live with this one. Him joining a super team I would not have been able to live with, that would have made him the new Durant. Right now all I’m feeling is disappointment, but come playoff time, if the Raptors are eliminated I’ll probably pull for Kawhi to succeed. What I’m most blown away by is how the hell this Paul George trade came out of absolutely nowhere, in the middle of the freakin night. Why would OKC have folded so easily, to bolster a competing team in their same conference ? My guess is that without that trade, he would still be a Raptor.
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Post by LIGHTS OUT on Jul 6, 2019 7:04:24 GMT -7
I am not happy I was right on this one. I wanted Kawhi to stay in Toronto. At least it wasn't the Lakers. Yeah, I can live with this one. Him joining a super team I would not have been able to live with, that would have made him the new Durant. Right now all I’m feeling is disappointment, but come playoff time, if the Raptors are eliminated I’ll probably pull for Kawhi to succeed. What I’m most blown away by is how the hell this Paul George trade came out of absolutely nowhere, in the middle of the freakin night. Why would OKC have folded so easily, to bolster a competing team in their same conference ? My guess is that without that trade, he would still be a Raptor. Reports are that Kawhi reached out to him and that George requested/demanded the trade. If the trade wasn't possible I agree that Kawhi is a Raptor this morning. OKC made out pretty well, especially given the situation that were in. I cant believe there were no leaks throughout the week, that is the biggest shock to me. |
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Post by jachba on Jul 6, 2019 8:48:22 GMT -7
When I say backwater Toronto, and the superstars want to go to the spotlight of LA. That's what I mean boys. I get that you're not being serious when you say "backwater Toronto" and that you're trying to pull Chopper's chain, but he doesn't live in Toronto. I do. As a matter of fact, I believe that he's an American living in western New York. Can't see the "backwater" comments having any affect on him at all. While I believe that most Raptor fans who live in Toronto understand Kawhi's reasons for signing with the Clippers, we Torontonians are sensitive to comments about being a "backwater" town, especially coming from Americans. Add to that the fear (whether there's truth or not in it) that no truly elite NBA superstar will ever choose to sign in Toronto as a free agent and the timing of your post (right after Leonard just signed or is about to sign with the Clippers) and any Raptor fan from Toronto is likely to be irritated by your comment, regardless of the seriousness of it. Trust me, you would not want to go and post this on any Raptors message board right now. Sometimes "it's a joke" doesn't cut it....
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Post by moekid on Jul 6, 2019 9:30:31 GMT -7
Jerry West’s fingerprints are on this one. He’s always had a knack for luring superstars. In the end, no big surprise as Kawhi to Clippers was the rumor all year. The Lakers thing was just a red herring.
The surprise is Paul George. But he also wanted to be in LA a couple of years back just didn’t want to join the Lakers. Teaming with Kawhi is perfect for him. But if you didn’t want Kawhi to join the Lakers because he’s be forming a super team, you can’t give him much credit for this as that’s what he’s done. The Clippers were a scrappy team last season. This season they’ll be the favorites. Good roster.
It also points to the value of draft picks in the nba. I think teams are seeing how long it takes most baby college players to develop and saying mid first rounders are not worth that much. I wonder what Russell Westbrook is thinking
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 6, 2019 12:16:10 GMT -7
Yeah, I can live with this one. Him joining a super team I would not have been able to live with, that would have made him the new Durant. Right now all I’m feeling is disappointment, but come playoff time, if the Raptors are eliminated I’ll probably pull for Kawhi to succeed. What I’m most blown away by is how the hell this Paul George trade came out of absolutely nowhere, in the middle of the freakin night. Why would OKC have folded so easily, to bolster a competing team in their same conference ? My guess is that without that trade, he would still be a Raptor. Reports are that Kawhi reached out to him and that George requested/demanded the trade. If the trade wasn't possible I agree that Kawhi is a Raptor this morning. OKC made out pretty well, especially given the situation that were in. I cant believe there were no leaks throughout the week, that is the biggest shock to me. I wasn’t aware of the players that OKC acquired from the Clippers, I only read about draft picks initially. Taking the two players they got as well into consideration, I agree they made out well. It is definitely mind blowing that no leaks got out over that. Apparently the Raptors were also in talks with OKC to acquire George, which would have involved Siakim being moved.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 6, 2019 12:24:54 GMT -7
When I say backwater Toronto, and the superstars want to go to the spotlight of LA. That's what I mean boys. While I believe that most Raptor fans who live in Toronto understand Kawhi's reasons for signing with the Clippers, we Torontonians are sensitive to comments about being a "backwater" town, especially coming from Americans. Add to that the fear (whether there's truth or not in it) that no truly elite NBA superstar will ever choose to sign in Toronto as a free agent and the timing of your post (right after Leonard just signed or is about to sign with the Clippers) and any Raptor fan from Toronto is likely to be irritated by your comment, regardless of the seriousness of it. Trust me, you would not want to go and post this on any Raptors message board right now. Sometimes "it's a joke" doesn't cut it.... This all sounds eerily familiar....ah yes, because that’s exactly what I told Freak, when I said he “owes you an apology”. I’m also pretty sure Freak is not joking, I honestly believe he knows as little about Toronto as he does the NBA and the basics of trolling. But of course that doesn’t stop him from acting like a know it all. As for the Raptors, just trust in Masai...they’ll be back soon. This year they will either be a “filler” playoff team, or they can go right into rebuild mode, and trade away aging guys like Lowry, Gasol & possibly Ibaka (although I would consider holding on to him). Siakim is gonna continue to develop, VanVleet is ready to take over for Lowry and guys like Powell, McCaw & Boucher will provide quality depth. Next offseason it’ll be us with a boatload of cap space, and if the free agency thing doesn’t work, there is always the trade market (which I prefer anyway). One way or another, Masai will sink his teeth into this project and make us relevant sooner rather than later...
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Post by joemcrugby on Jul 6, 2019 12:37:45 GMT -7
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 6, 2019 12:38:03 GMT -7
Jerry West’s fingerprints are on this one. He’s always had a knack for luring superstars. In the end, no big surprise as Kawhi to Clippers was the rumor all year. The Lakers thing was just a red herring. The surprise is Paul George. But he also wanted to be in LA a couple of years back just didn’t want to join the Lakers. Teaming with Kawhi is perfect for him. But if you didn’t want Kawhi to join the Lakers because he’s be forming a super team, you can’t give him much credit for this as that’s what he’s done. The Clippers were a scrappy team last season. This season they’ll be the favorites. Good roster. It also points to the value of draft picks in the nba. I think teams are seeing how long it takes most baby college players to develop and saying mid first rounders are not worth that much. I wonder what Russell Westbrook is thinking I have no hate for the Lakers, I just didn’t wanna see 3 of the Top 10 players in the league on the same team. But I honestly don’t think it would have been as successful as everyone assumed anyway. They would have had the most league minimum guys on a roster in league history. One injury would be catostrophic, and if you want playoff Kawhi you can’t run up his mileage in the regular season. The Lakers probably don’t realize it, but Kawhi not going there probably did them more good than bad (although it would have been great for them if they didnt wait around for him and get stuck with leftovers). I wouldn’t consider the Clippers a superteam, I think you need at least 3 stars for that distinction, and most of their players are holdovers.
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Post by jachba on Jul 6, 2019 13:28:34 GMT -7
I get that you're not being serious when you say "backwater Toronto" and that you're trying to pull Chopper's chain, but he doesn't live in Toronto. I do. As a matter of fact, I believe that he's an American living in western New York. Can't see the "backwater" comments having any affect on him at all.While I believe that most Raptor fans who live in Toronto understand Kawhi's reasons for signing with the Clippers, we Torontonians are sensitive to comments about being a "backwater" town, especially coming from Americans. Add to that the fear (whether there's truth or not in it) that no truly elite NBA superstar will ever choose to sign in Toronto as a free agent and the timing of your post (right after Leonard just signed or is about to sign with the Clippers) and any Raptor fan from Toronto is likely to be irritated by your comment, regardless of the seriousness of it. Trust me, you would not want to go and post this on any Raptors message board right now. Sometimes "it's a joke" doesn't cut it.... This all sound eerily familiar....ah yes, because that’s exactly what I told Freak, when I said he “owes you an apology”. I’m also pretty sure Freak is not joking, I honestly believe he knows as little about Toronto as he does the NBA and the basics of trolling. But of course that doesn’t stop him from acting like a know it all. As for the Raptors, just trust in Masai...they’ll be back soon. This year they will either be a “filler” playoff team, or they can go right into rebuild mode, and trade away aging guys like Lowry, Gasol & possibly Ibaka (although I would consider holding on to him). Siakim is gonna continue to develop, VanVleet is ready to take over for Lowry and guys like Powell, McCaw & Boucher will provide quality depth. Next offseason it’ll be us with a boatload of cap space, and if the free agency thing does t work, there is always the trade market (which I prefer anyway). One way or another, Masai will sink his teeth into this and make us relevant t sooner rather than later... Concerning the Raptors, agree with you concerning Masai. As long as he is here the team should be a perennial playoff contender unless he decides to blow it all up and reload for 2021, when Giannis becomes available (even if Masai doesn't blow up the team, he'll probably pursue him anyway). Toronto would be an ideal spot for him, as there is a large and well established Greek community here (there's Greektown, with a lot of Greek restaurants and events such as Taste of the Danforth, a street party event featuring lots of food and entertainment). Toronto has also been voted the most multicultural city in the world by the BBC among others, so he might have more opportunities to become a fixture here than in Milwaukee (although from what I understand they also have a large Greek community as well). There is also a personal connection between Masai and Giannis. He personally helped Giannis' parents get Greek citizenship. He also organized a Greek Heritage Night when the Bucks played the Raptors at the Scotiabank Arena on January 2, 2018 that resulted in thousands of Greek Raptor fans singing in Greek to Giannis after the game. Concerning Freak's comments, he (like a lot of Americans) doesn't get or doesn't care about how such comments play north of the border. It reinforces the Ugly American stereotype that people outside of the U.S. have of your country. I know of at least two stories of Canadians travelling in Europe who were mistaken for Americans and given a hard time until it was discovered that they were Canadians, at which point they were treated with respect. Having said all that, what's happening in Southern California with the earthquakes and other things happening in the news puts everything in perspective. It's hard to get too bothered by all of this when people's lives could be at stake.
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Post by chopper31 on Jul 6, 2019 18:42:42 GMT -7
This all sound eerily familiar....ah yes, because that’s exactly what I told Freak, when I said he “owes you an apology”. I’m also pretty sure Freak is not joking, I honestly believe he knows as little about Toronto as he does the NBA and the basics of trolling. But of course that doesn’t stop him from acting like a know it all. As for the Raptors, just trust in Masai...they’ll be back soon. This year they will either be a “filler” playoff team, or they can go right into rebuild mode, and trade away aging guys like Lowry, Gasol & possibly Ibaka (although I would consider holding on to him). Siakim is gonna continue to develop, VanVleet is ready to take over for Lowry and guys like Powell, McCaw & Boucher will provide quality depth. Next offseason it’ll be us with a boatload of cap space, and if the free agency thing does t work, there is always the trade market (which I prefer anyway). One way or another, Masai will sink his teeth into this and make us relevant t sooner rather than later... Concerning the Raptors, agree with you concerning Masai. As long as he is here the team should be a perennial playoff contender unless he decides to blow it all up and reload for 2021, when Giannis becomes available (even if Masai doesn't blow up the team, he'll probably pursue him anyway). Toronto would be an ideal spot for him, as there is a large and well established Greek community here (there's Greektown, with a lot of Greek restaurants and events such as Taste of the Danforth, a street party event featuring lots of food and entertainment). Toronto has also been voted the most multicultural city in the world by the BBC among others, so he might have more opportunities to become a fixture here than in Milwaukee (although from what I understand they also have a large Greek community as well). There is also a personal connection between Masai and Giannis. He personally helped Giannis' parents get Greek citizenship. He also organized a Greek Heritage Night when the Bucks played the Raptors at the Scotiabank Arena on January 2, 2018 that resulted in thousands of Greek Raptor fans singing in Greek to Giannis after the game. Concerning Freak's comments, he (like a lot of Americans) doesn't get or doesn't care about how such comments play north of the border. It reinforces the Ugly American stereotype that people outside of the U.S. have of your country. I know of at least two stories of Canadians travelling in Europe who were mistaken for Americans and given a hard time until it was discovered that they were Canadians, at which point they were treated with respect. Having said all that, what's happening in Southern California with the earthquakes and other things happening in the news puts everything in perspective. It's hard to get too bothered by all of this when people's lives could be at stake. Please consider Freak in a class of his own...last I knew his US Citizenship was still under review (a status it’s been in for 51+ years). Also, he lives in Pennsylvania, so don’t let the SoCal earthquakes hold you back. It’s Blitzkrieg time !!! 
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