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Post by frozendisc on Jul 18, 2019 6:45:06 GMT -7
You are not being an ass, you are just being difficult. Not a chance in hell the club shares any blame if a player fails to fulfill his contract by holding out. Gordon can sit out until week 10, then he must report in order to get credit for the year. Say he does just that hoping to reach FA, the club can just tag him (for several years) and Gordon would not reach FA. The bold above is the key here, and I suspect Gordon is not in the long term plans. I believe I was just cleverly insulted but I'm not certain. Kudos! They might use the tag for 1 year. If they use it twice they'll be shelling out something like 32mil/2yrs. All parties involved would be way better off negotiating a long term deal. I really hope MG3 is in the long term plans. Yeah he's had some issues with injury he's also been a model pro and he's top 10 at his position. He keeps improving and he'll be in his prime for a few more years. Nope, no insult in there at all. I actually like your feistyness....... They could tag him next year, then have his replacement drafted. Model pro, and in the top 10 statistics wise doesn't equate to top RB money. The fact that he has had injury issues makes me think replacement, but you know they want him for this year. If he holds out, they look to move on for certain.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 18, 2019 7:33:20 GMT -7
The Falcons have agreed to a four-year extension with linebacker Deion Jones, which will keep him with the team through 2023, the team announced Wednesday.
According to agent Drew Rosenhaus, it's a $57 million extension, including $34 million guaranteed. There is an $11 million signing bonus, and Jones will earn $35.5 million over the first three years.
The move comes after the Falcons signed defensive tackle Grady Jarrett to a four-year deal on Monday.
Jones was selected in the second round of the 2016 NFL draft. The 24-year-old became a starter as a rookie. He suffered a foot injury in 2018 and played in only six games.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jul 18, 2019 8:04:06 GMT -7
The Falcons have agreed to a four-year extension with linebacker Deion Jones, which will keep him with the team through 2023, the team announced Wednesday. According to agent Drew Rosenhaus, it's a $57 million extension, including $34 million guaranteed. There is an $11 million signing bonus, and Jones will earn $35.5 million over the first three years. The move comes after the Falcons signed defensive tackle Grady Jarrett to a four-year deal on Monday.Jones was selected in the second round of the 2016 NFL draft. The 24-year-old became a starter as a rookie. He suffered a foot injury in 2018 and played in only six games. Congrats to Falcons running back Deion Jones!!
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Post by joemcrugby on Jul 18, 2019 8:09:25 GMT -7
We want nothing to do with any of that. Bad vibes. In Bell's case he left and got a big contract. Don't want any leaving either. In Bell's case, the deal he ended up signing after sitting out a season was the same $$$ that the Steelers were offering as an extension when he decided to sit out a season. Let's hope that MG (who, unlike Bell, is still under contract) is a lot smarter than that.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 18, 2019 8:42:13 GMT -7
We want nothing to do with any of that. Bad vibes. In Bell's case he left and got a big contract. Don't want any leaving either. In Bell's case, the deal he ended up signing after sitting out a season was the same $$$ that the Steelers were offering as an extension when he decided to sit out a season. Let's hope that MG (who, unlike Bell, is still under contract) is a lot smarter than that. Bell wanted a contract that would guarantee his salary for more than one season, but the Steelers refused.
Keep em coming. I'm IN PITTSBURGH waiting for replies................................
never doubt me.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 18, 2019 9:08:05 GMT -7
Rivers just demanded that Gordon get his deal.
You see boys and Mods, Gordon commands 8+ in the box for Rivers to throw. No other RB on the team does that.
mic drop
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Post by frozendisc on Jul 18, 2019 10:04:57 GMT -7
Rivers just demanded that Gordon get his deal. You see boys and Mods, Gordon commands 8+ in the box for Rivers to throw. No other RB on the team does that. mic drop linky or it didn't happen....... Seems out of character for Rivers to immerse himself in this type of thing.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jul 18, 2019 10:15:36 GMT -7
Rivers just demanded that Gordon get his deal.You see boys and Mods, Gordon commands 8+ in the box for Rivers to throw. No other RB on the team does that. mic drop Link? I've never heard PR make a public demand for anybody, even when it comes to himself (PR was silent during his rookie holdout as his agent was the mouthpiece).
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Post by joemcrugby on Jul 18, 2019 10:21:39 GMT -7
In Bell's case, the deal he ended up signing after sitting out a season was the same $$$ that the Steelers were offering as an extension when he decided to sit out a season. Let's hope that MG (who, unlike Bell, is still under contract) is a lot smarter than that. Bell wanted a contract that would guarantee his salary for more than one season, but the Steelers refused.
Keep em coming. I'm IN PITTSBURGH waiting for replies................................
never doubt me.
Hmmmmmmm ... According to NFL.com, the Steelers made one final offer to Bell on Monday, just hours before the NFL's 4 p.m. ET deadline for teams to negotiate a new contract with their franchise player. The offer from the Steelers was worth a total of $70 million over five years (or $14 million per season). Although the offer would have given Bell the largest multi-year contract of any running back in the NFL, he turned it down, and one reason he likely did that, is because it was nowhere near his asking price, which was reportedly in the neighborhood of $17 million per season.One other reason Bell might have turned the deal down is because it apparently wasn't loaded with any substantial guarantees. According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the contract included $33 million in guaranteed money, which was going to be paid out over the first two years. Rapoport also noted that the first three years of the deal would pay out $45 million (or $15 million per season), but didn't note if all of that money was guaranteed. As for the final two years of the deal, it seems that Bell had no guaranteed money. Of course, none of this matters now, since Bell didn't take the offer. Instead, Bell has decided to bet on himself and he'll likely be able to cash-in big time when free agency begins in 2019. However, that's no guarantee. Even if Bell becomes a free agent next season, which is a near certainty at this point, it's no lock that a team is going to pay him the $17 million he wants. As things stand now, that salary is more than double the average annual salary of the next highest-paid running back in the NFL (Devonta Freeman, $8.25 million per year). No matter what Bell does in 2018, it's going to be tough for a any general manager to justify spending $17 million per year on a running back. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bell-reportedly-turned-down-a-monstrous-70-million-deal-from-the-steelers/________________ After sitting out a year, Bell signed a deal that paid him less money than the Steelers had offered. Dohhhhhh!!!!
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 18, 2019 10:46:38 GMT -7
Bell wanted a contract that would guarantee his salary for more than one season, but the Steelers refused.
Keep em coming. I'm IN PITTSBURGH waiting for replies................................
never doubt me.
Hmmmmmmm ... According to NFL.com, the Steelers made one final offer to Bell on Monday, just hours before the NFL's 4 p.m. ET deadline for teams to negotiate a new contract with their franchise player. The offer from the Steelers was worth a total of $70 million over five years (or $14 million per season). Although the offer would have given Bell the largest multi-year contract of any running back in the NFL, he turned it down, and one reason he likely did that, is because it was nowhere near his asking price, which was reportedly in the neighborhood of $17 million per season.One other reason Bell might have turned the deal down is because it apparently wasn't loaded with any substantial guarantees. According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the contract included $33 million in guaranteed money, which was going to be paid out over the first two years. Rapoport also noted that the first three years of the deal would pay out $45 million (or $15 million per season), but didn't note if all of that money was guaranteed. As for the final two years of the deal, it seems that Bell had no guaranteed money. Of course, none of this matters now, since Bell didn't take the offer. Instead, Bell has decided to bet on himself and he'll likely be able to cash-in big time when free agency begins in 2019. However, that's no guarantee. Even if Bell becomes a free agent next season, which is a near certainty at this point, it's no lock that a team is going to pay him the $17 million he wants. As things stand now, that salary is more than double the average annual salary of the next highest-paid running back in the NFL (Devonta Freeman, $8.25 million per year). No matter what Bell does in 2018, it's going to be tough for a any general manager to justify spending $17 million per year on a running back. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bell-reportedly-turned-down-a-monstrous-70-million-deal-from-the-steelers/________________ After sitting out a year, Bell signed a deal that paid him less money than the Steelers had offered. Dohhhhhh!!!! So at the end, when he already decided to leave, the team caved with their tail between their legs.
Good preview of what's coming.
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Post by moekid on Jul 18, 2019 10:48:41 GMT -7
Rivers just demanded that Gordon get his deal. You see boys and Mods, Gordon commands 8+ in the box for Rivers to throw. No other RB on the team does that. mic drop link to your sub-conscious dream state where this happened please.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jul 18, 2019 10:54:14 GMT -7
Rivers just demanded that Gordon get his deal. You see boys and Mods, Gordon commands 8+ in the box for Rivers to throw. No other RB on the team does that. mic drop link to your sub-conscious dream state where this happened please. You 3 have known me a long long time. You took the Rivers joke SERIOUSLY ? That's freakin hilarious. (except 8+ in the box is no joke)
You need to lighten WAY UP.
Shouldn't you be typing Gordon is a good guy like Cromartie or something ?
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 18, 2019 11:02:40 GMT -7
Yep. Sign an agreement, keep your word. I'd make an example of him if he mislead us when he signed his contract. Except that's not how 5th year options work now. It just isn't. True. The Chargers own the rights to Gordon as an NFL player in his 5th year. Both sides agreed to length of contract & terms of compensation. He has the option not to play or expect a paycheck in his 5th year.
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 18, 2019 11:10:15 GMT -7
Yep. Sign an agreement, keep your word. I'd make an example of him if he mislead us when he signed his contract. Handing out some sort of 'punishment' is a slippery slope. You can bet there are other players, on the club and around the league, watching this play out. My thought is don't reward him with a new contract, but don't get carried away with treating him poorly either. Let it play out.....if he sits out until week 10, then welcome him back. End of season decide if you are going to tag him...... The example I was thinking of was one where the Chargers do not negotiate with a holdout. Show up and prepare like you want to win the SB, we can talk. Make it all about the money, talk to your bartender.
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Post by sonorajim on Jul 18, 2019 11:14:26 GMT -7
Hmmmmmmm ... According to NFL.com, the Steelers made one final offer to Bell on Monday, just hours before the NFL's 4 p.m. ET deadline for teams to negotiate a new contract with their franchise player. The offer from the Steelers was worth a total of $70 million over five years (or $14 million per season). Although the offer would have given Bell the largest multi-year contract of any running back in the NFL, he turned it down, and one reason he likely did that, is because it was nowhere near his asking price, which was reportedly in the neighborhood of $17 million per season.One other reason Bell might have turned the deal down is because it apparently wasn't loaded with any substantial guarantees. According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the contract included $33 million in guaranteed money, which was going to be paid out over the first two years. Rapoport also noted that the first three years of the deal would pay out $45 million (or $15 million per season), but didn't note if all of that money was guaranteed. As for the final two years of the deal, it seems that Bell had no guaranteed money. Of course, none of this matters now, since Bell didn't take the offer. Instead, Bell has decided to bet on himself and he'll likely be able to cash-in big time when free agency begins in 2019. However, that's no guarantee. Even if Bell becomes a free agent next season, which is a near certainty at this point, it's no lock that a team is going to pay him the $17 million he wants. As things stand now, that salary is more than double the average annual salary of the next highest-paid running back in the NFL (Devonta Freeman, $8.25 million per year). No matter what Bell does in 2018, it's going to be tough for a any general manager to justify spending $17 million per year on a running back. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bell-reportedly-turned-down-a-monstrous-70-million-deal-from-the-steelers/________________ After sitting out a year, Bell signed a deal that paid him less money than the Steelers had offered. Dohhhhhh!!!! So at the end, when he already decided to leave, the team caved with their tail between their legs.
Good preview of what's coming.
Bell is negotiating with Pitt again?
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