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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 13, 2019 2:31:53 GMT -7
You and chopper will have to explain it to me (pretending that I don't know absolutely everything about everything. I know its a joke, but the villagers get tickled when I play pretend, in between scheduling Lion Den Death Matches.......) LeBron in LA has been a disaster. One way or the other, this led to Magic leaving. How bad has this been mishandled. Am I reading it right that LeBron has that much say in the organization ? This baffles me to no end. Rivers has input, but he has no final say. Tom Freaking Brady has input, but no final say. How did they give LeBron that much power ? I would be go to hell if I would do it. Was Pat Riley the only one that put him in his place ? LeBron being a disaster in LA is not entirely accurate. His extended injury played a huge part in the Lakers shortcomings. Before he got injured and missed several weeks, they were very much in the playoff picture. What he did do that had a further hand in screwing things up, was publicly trying to recruit Anthony Davis, who could only be acquired via trade. Aside from being considered tampering, that didn’t sit well with his current teammates, who were the ones being viewed at as expendable. Let’s say those expendable guys lost some motivation after that debacle. I am pretty sure Magic would have pursued Davis regardless though, and I have no idea if he sent LeBron out to try and court him, but one way or another it was a really dumb move. I think we can rule out the whole thing being LeBron’s idea though, it was very common knowledge that the Lakers would be looking for a second superstar in the very near future. The assumption that LeBron has “power” is only a speculation at this point, I‘m not aware of any moves being made to appease him. There is speculation that the Lakers next HC could be a hire that LeBron may have strong influence on, but that is obviously nothing more than speculation (as the current coach hasn’t even been fired yet). With a new Team President coming into the mix, I’d say that is a pretty big hit towards the rumor that LeBron will be hand picking his next Coach. Magic’s resignation was not LeBron’s doing at all, that was Magic’s decision on his own. Magic claims he would rather be a mentor to players (regardless of whom they play for), but I think he also realizes they won’t be landing Davis via trade this summer, and they also are not likely gonna be able to pull off a major FA signing either (very few people wanna be LeBron’s sidekick). There are a LOT of expectations that come with that position he held, and I think he realized he wasn’t likely going to be able to live up to them. So it was a good time to jump ship and try to save some face, because at this point he’ll be known as the guy who brought LeBron to LA, and that could still end up having a happy ending at some point... Luke Walton is gone with the Lakers.
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Post by chopper31 on Apr 13, 2019 3:37:26 GMT -7
LeBron being a disaster in LA is not entirely accurate. His extended injury played a huge part in the Lakers shortcomings. Before he got injured and missed several weeks, they were very much in the playoff picture. What he did do that had a further hand in screwing things up, was publicly trying to recruit Anthony Davis, who could only be acquired via trade. Aside from being considered tampering, that didn’t sit well with his current teammates, who were the ones being viewed at as expendable. Let’s say those expendable guys lost some motivation after that debacle. I am pretty sure Magic would have pursued Davis regardless though, and I have no idea if he sent LeBron out to try and court him, but one way or another it was a really dumb move. I think we can rule out the whole thing being LeBron’s idea though, it was very common knowledge that the Lakers would be looking for a second superstar in the very near future. The assumption that LeBron has “power” is only a speculation at this point, I‘m not aware of any moves being made to appease him. There is speculation that the Lakers next HC could be a hire that LeBron may have strong influence on, but that is obviously nothing more than speculation (as the current coach hasn’t even been fired yet). With a new Team President coming into the mix, I’d say that is a pretty big hit towards the rumor that LeBron will be hand picking his next Coach. Magic’s resignation was not LeBron’s doing at all, that was Magic’s decision on his own. Magic claims he would rather be a mentor to players (regardless of whom they play for), but I think he also realizes they won’t be landing Davis via trade this summer, and they also are not likely gonna be able to pull off a major FA signing either (very few people wanna be LeBron’s sidekick). There are a LOT of expectations that come with that position he held, and I think he realized he wasn’t likely going to be able to live up to them. So it was a good time to jump ship and try to save some face, because at this point he’ll be known as the guy who brought LeBron to LA, and that could still end up having a happy ending at some point... Luke Walton is gone with the Lakers. That comes as no surprise at all, the surprise would actually be if he were to remain. When there was a report that Magic wanted to fire him mid-season but the Owner blocked it, how do you think that would affect trying to hire someone to replace Magic, if Luke was still in place ? There were some theories out there for quite some time that Luke would resign, if he wasn’t fired, because he could land a much more desirable job via one of the other newly created openings throughout the league. Those theories seem to have some validity, as the statement from the Lakers is the parties have “mutually agreed to part ways”. Aside from the rumors that have existed for several months about his inevitable ousting, how often does a Coach remain in place, when there is an organizational shakeup at the top ? It was coming one way or another, and by parting ways now, it significantly increases his chances at landing a new job while the opportunities are still open. Now, what do you think are the chances that whomever is hired as the new Team President is going to come in and have his first move be to allow LeBron to hand pick the new Coach ? (See the sentence after the one you highlighted, for my thoughts on that). PS - if you are trying to suggest that I was predicting that Luke would be retained, that is a clear misunderstanding. The sentence you highlighted was nothing more than to prove that the speculation to that point, could be no more than speculation. There can’t be any truth to a rumor about the replacement Coach, at a time when the existing one hasn’t even been fired yet.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 14, 2019 2:36:39 GMT -7
Luke Walton is gone with the Lakers. That comes as no surprise at all, the surprise would actually be if he were to remain. When there was a report that Magic wanted to fire him mid-season but the Owner blocked it, how do you think that would affect trying to hire someone to replace Magic, if Luke was still in place ? There were some theories out there for quite some time that Luke would resign, if he wasn’t fired, because he could land a much more desirable job via one of the other newly created openings throughout the league. Those theories seem to have some validity, as the statement from the Lakers is the parties have “mutually agreed to part ways”. Aside from the rumors that have existed for several months about his inevitable ousting, how often does a Coach remain in place, when there is an organizational shakeup at the top ? It was coming one way or another, and by parting ways now, it significantly increases his chances at landing a new job while the opportunities are still open. Now, what do you think are the chances that whomever is hired as the new Team President is going to come in and have his first move be to allow LeBron to hand pick the new Coach ? (See the sentence after the one you highlighted, for my thoughts on that). PS - if you are trying to suggest that I was predicting that Luke would be retained, that is a clear misunderstanding. The sentence you highlighted was nothing more than to prove that the speculation to that point, could be no more than speculation. There can’t be any truth to a rumor about the replacement Coach, at a time when the existing one hasn’t even been fired yet. I never said you predicted he was staying, I wanted your take on his leaving and who you think will get the job. I am hearing more and more that LeBron isn't in this loop as much as some have said he was. An example is I guess he was just as shocked as all when Magic announced he was leaving. LeBron having power is great conversation. I reiterate, I would be go to hell how much say he would have. Pat Riley for the win.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 14, 2019 3:08:50 GMT -7
GSW are laughing. Toronto couldn't beat Orlando ?
REACT !!!!!!!!!!
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Post by chopper31 on Apr 14, 2019 3:44:09 GMT -7
That comes as no surprise at all, the surprise would actually be if he were to remain. When there was a report that Magic wanted to fire him mid-season but the Owner blocked it, how do you think that would affect trying to hire someone to replace Magic, if Luke was still in place ? There were some theories out there for quite some time that Luke would resign, if he wasn’t fired, because he could land a much more desirable job via one of the other newly created openings throughout the league. Those theories seem to have some validity, as the statement from the Lakers is the parties have “mutually agreed to part ways”. Aside from the rumors that have existed for several months about his inevitable ousting, how often does a Coach remain in place, when there is an organizational shakeup at the top ? It was coming one way or another, and by parting ways now, it significantly increases his chances at landing a new job while the opportunities are still open. Now, what do you think are the chances that whomever is hired as the new Team President is going to come in and have his first move be to allow LeBron to hand pick the new Coach ? (See the sentence after the one you highlighted, for my thoughts on that). PS - if you are trying to suggest that I was predicting that Luke would be retained, that is a clear misunderstanding. The sentence you highlighted was nothing more than to prove that the speculation to that point, could be no more than speculation. There can’t be any truth to a rumor about the replacement Coach, at a time when the existing one hasn’t even been fired yet. I never said you predicted he was staying, I wanted your take on his leaving and who you think will get the job. I am hearing more and more that LeBron isn't in this loop as much as some have said he was. An example is I guess he was just as shocked as all when Magic announced he was leaving. LeBron having power is great conversation. I reiterate, I would be go to hell how much say he would have. Pat Riley for the win. Funny enough there were some reports that came out yesterday, saying that the Lakers may have reached out to 2 coaching candidates, despite not filling the President of Basketball Operations role. Along with that rumor comes the theory that the GM (who is Kobe Bryant’s former agent) may actually just get additional power and report directly to the Owner, as opposed to them backfilling Magic’s position. These reports don’t seem very solid though, and the media circus surrounding the Lakers is pretty ridiculous. All it really takes is someone to breathe, for reports to start flying. The part you will like the best, is that the two guys who they “supposedly have reached out to” are LeBron guys. Again, I don’t make much of these reports, but until something else happens I guess you can’t rule them out. If the Lakers do in fact go that route though, I’d have to put them in the running for most dysfunctional organization in all of professional sports. As for who I predict will get the job ? I can’t even begin to guess at this point, because I’m guessing the Lakers actually will hire a new Prez of BB Ops first.
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Post by chopper31 on Apr 14, 2019 4:05:04 GMT -7
GSW are laughing. Toronto couldn't beat Orlando ? REACT !!!!!!!!!! OK, for the easy one first, the Clippers pose absolutely no challenge to the Warriors. I don’t think you’ll find anyone who would state otherwise (probably not even a Clippers homer).Let’s just say if I were a Warriors fan, I’d be upset that my team even has to risk injury, by playing in a series like this. It’s next round when their playoffs begins, and in my prediction, it’s also when it will end. I really do think Houston takes them out, and the way the bracket panned out, it’ll be in Round 2 as opposed to the CF. BTW, just because I am predicting Houston to take out the Warriors in round 2, does NOT mean I think Houston will have an easy time with Utah in Round 1. I actually think the Jazz are gonna put up one hell of a fight against the Rockets, so as the Rockets lose games to the Jazz (and they will lose some), it will not make me do any second guessing of my prediction. Now as for my Raptors....Orlando is a tough team that has been super hot lately, and I’ve said a few times in here, they were definitely not my preference for a first round matchup (I wanted Brooklyn, who BTW pulled off a big upset yesterday). A lot of people assumed the Raptors would just go out and easily sweep them, but I have never been one of them. We split the regular season series, and they are playing at their best at the right time. I think the series will end up being a real dog fight, and going the full 7 games with each game being a close one, is not out of the realm of possibility. I have no excuses to make for yesterday, just a hard fought game by both teams, and the Magic hit a very clutch game winning 3 with 3.4 seconds left. The Magic deserve credit for playing a great game, with a clutch finish. Yeah it sure would be nice if our perennial All-Star point guard didn’t go 0-7 on his shots, and 0-2 at the free throw line, but I’ll give him a pass for having an off game. The flying knee he took to the schnutz during the game was punishment enough. The Raptors no longer have the luxury of only having to win their home games in this series, but with them getting to where I predict they will end up, having to win at least one game in Orlando is going to be far from the toughest task they will face in the playoffs.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 15, 2019 2:38:22 GMT -7
I never said you predicted he was staying, I wanted your take on his leaving and who you think will get the job. I am hearing more and more that LeBron isn't in this loop as much as some have said he was. An example is I guess he was just as shocked as all when Magic announced he was leaving. LeBron having power is great conversation. I reiterate, I would be go to hell how much say he would have. Pat Riley for the win. Funny enough there were some reports that came out yesterday, saying that the Lakers may have reached out to 2 coaching candidates, despite not filling the President of Basketball Operations role. Along with that rumor comes the theory that the GM (who is Kobe Bryant’s former agent) may actually just get additional power and report directly to the Owner, as opposed to them backfilling Magic’s position. These reports don’t seem very solid though, and the media circus surrounding the Lakers is pretty ridiculous. All it really takes is someone to breathe, for reports to start flying. The part you will like the best, is that the two guys who they “supposedly have reached out to” are LeBron guys. Again, I don’t make much of these reports, but until something else happens I guess you can’t rule them out. If the Lakers do in fact go that route though, I’d have to put them in the running for most dysfunctional organization in all of professional sports. As for who I predict will get the job ? I can’t even begin to guess at this point, because I’m guessing the Lakers actually will hire a new Prez of BB Ops first. I heard that same report. It included that the owner wants the Lakers culture to stay, and not become a Lebron culture. I have heard her called the worst female owner ever.
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Post by chopper31 on Apr 16, 2019 3:16:29 GMT -7
Warriors blow a 31 point lead (largest in NBA Playoff history)...on their home court..... vs. the #8 seed.
That’ll be a nice stamp to add on their legacy. Hahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!
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Post by chopper31 on Apr 16, 2019 3:41:33 GMT -7
GSW are laughing. Toronto couldn't beat Orlando ? REACT !!!!!!!!!! Let’s just say if I were a Warriors fan, I’d be upset that my team even has to risk injury, by playing in a series like this. And sure enough, an injury did happen. Demarcus Cousins (starting Center) went down, with what is feared to be a torn quadricep. He’ll have an MRI today, and if it’s positive, he’s done for this playoffs (and is gonna have a hell of a time striking a new deal in Free Agency).
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Post by LIGHTS OUT on Apr 16, 2019 5:02:22 GMT -7
GSW are laughing. Toronto couldn't beat Orlando ? REACT !!!!!!!!!! OK, for the easy one first, the Clippers pose absolutely no challenge to the Warriors. I don’t think you’ll find anyone who would state otherwise (probably not even a Clippers homer).Let’s just say if I were a Warriors fan, I’d be upset that my team even has to risk injury, by playing in a series like this. This didn't age well. Blake won't be back for the 1st round. And since that was announced the Pistons are now done.....Detroit poses absolutely no challenge to the Bucks without Griffin. At least by not playing in the playoffs he will certainly be ready for week 1 of the 2019-20 season. Dwayne Casey out of Toronto, Raptors now under Nick Nurse, still the same old Raptors....losing the opening game in the first round at home. It is Groundhog Day in Toronto.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 16, 2019 7:10:06 GMT -7
Warriors blow a 31 point lead (largest in NBA Playoff history)...on their home court..... vs. the #8 seed. That’ll be a nice stamp to add on their legacy. Hahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!! Holy Cats what a comeback !!! I heard if you could see the comeback coming, and wanted to bet it, they were laying 1700 to 1 odds down. Down 31 with 7 something left on the clock.
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Post by chopper31 on Apr 16, 2019 9:19:44 GMT -7
OK, for the easy one first, the Clippers pose absolutely no challenge to the Warriors. I don’t think you’ll find anyone who would state otherwise (probably not even a Clippers homer).Let’s just say if I were a Warriors fan, I’d be upset that my team even has to risk injury, by playing in a series like this. This didn't age well. Blake won't be back for the 1st round. And since that was announced the Pistons are now done.....Detroit poses absolutely no challenge to the Bucks without Griffin. At least by not playing in the playoffs he will certainly be ready for week 1 of the 2019-20 season. Dwayne Casey out of Toronto, Raptors now under Nick Nurse, still the same old Raptors....losing the opening game in the first round at home. It is Groundhog Day in Toronto. Losing the opening game is a bit pre-mature to be declaring them the “same old Raptors”, wouldn’t you say ? Flake sitting out, is not the only reason why you guys won’t give the Bucks any type of challenge. It’ll certainly make things worse, but the bottom line is the Pistons were a .500 team, that needed help just to qualify for the playoffs at the very last minute. The Bucks on the other hand were the best team in the league, and quite honestly should be the favorites to win the NBA Championship this year. The Raptors were the one and only team the Pistons had any shot against in the playoffs, and it’s all to do with the Coaching. Dwayne Casey is less than a year removed as the Raptors Head Coach, and the guy who was his Assistant is now in his spot, so of course that gives Dwayne a huge advantage. Are you really at peace with Flake sitting out the playoffs, in exchange for being ready for week 1 of the regular season ? The playoffs are the only thing that matters, it doesn’t matter when or how long you play during the regular season. If I were a Pistons fan, I’d feel a little ripped off... |
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Post by chopper31 on Apr 16, 2019 9:28:31 GMT -7
Warriors blow a 31 point lead (largest in NBA Playoff history)...on their home court..... vs. the #8 seed. That’ll be a nice stamp to add on their legacy. Hahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!! Holy Cats what a comeback !!! I heard if you could see the comeback coming, and wanted to bet it, they were laying 1700 to 1 odds down. Down 31 with 7 something left on the clock.
I didn’t stay up to watch that game, so I have no idea what happened. But I would have to imagine “calling off the dogs” had a very big part of it. Regardless, I’m delighted that the Warriors own that record, and that it was against a #8 seed in their house (during its final days).
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Post by LIGHTS OUT on Apr 16, 2019 10:37:28 GMT -7
This didn't age well. Blake won't be back for the 1st round. And since that was announced the Pistons are now done.....Detroit poses absolutely no challenge to the Bucks without Griffin. At least by not playing in the playoffs he will certainly be ready for week 1 of the 2019-20 season. Dwayne Casey out of Toronto, Raptors now under Nick Nurse, still the same old Raptors....losing the opening game in the first round at home. It is Groundhog Day in Toronto. Losing the opening game is a bit pre-mature to be declaring them the “same old Raptors”, wouldn’t you say ? Flake sitting out, is not the only reason why you guys won’t give the Bucks any type of challenge. It’ll certainly make things worse, but the bottom line is the Pistons were a .500 team, that needed help just to qualify for the playoffs at the very last minute. The Bucks on the other hand were the best team in the league, and quite honestly should be the favorites to win the NBA Championship this year. The Raptors were the one and only team the Pistons had any shot against in the playoffs, and it’s all to do with the Coaching. Dwayne Casey is less than a year removed as the Raptors Head Coach, and the guy who was his Assistant is now in his spot, so of course that gives Dwayne a huge advantage. Are you really at peace with Flake sitting out the playoffs, in exchange for being ready for week 1 of the regular season ? The playoffs are the only thing that matters, it doesn’t matter when or how long you play during the regular season. If I were a Pistons fan, I’d feel a little ripped off... Maybe you misunderstood my Raptors comment. They have lost game one at home more times than i can count, I live near Toronto and trust me this is a big deal around here. I'm not saying they will lose this series (because I believe they win) but it is definitely something. I think you also misunderstood my Pistons comments as well. I feel completely ripped of and disappointed....Griffin has finally brought hope back to Detroit and now this. It is devastating. The difference between Griffin and no Griffin is massive and now all hope is lost. I didn't think Detroit was going to win the series anyway, but it would have been fun to extend the series a game or two. Us Piston fans are already looking forward to next season, and hopefully some Kawhi type "load management" will keep Blake playoff ready. He absolutely busted his ass all season to get the team to the playoffs and now can only watch.
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Post by moekid on Apr 16, 2019 11:42:53 GMT -7
Holy Cats what a comeback !!! I heard if you could see the comeback coming, and wanted to bet it, they were laying 1700 to 1 odds down. Down 31 with 7 something left on the clock.
I didn’t stay up to watch that game, so I have no idea what happened. But I would have to imagine “calling off the dogs” had a very big part of it. Regardless, I’m delighted that the Warriors own that record, and that it was against a #8 seed in their house (during its final days). Clippers got red hot. GSW may have taken their foot off the gas pedal which is just human nature up 31. Problem is once momentum is lost its hard to regain. Lou Williams is just a scoring machine.
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