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Post by sdc on Jan 2, 2020 10:03:33 GMT -7
It’s clear that you guys don’t much, if any college football. But it’s nice that you took the time to watch the playoffs and some bowl games. Justin Herbert is Blake Bortles v2.0. Big fast with a rocket arm. Accuracy issues and below average reading a defense. Eason and Fromm will stay in college to enhance their draft status. Btw- did you see Fromm last night with only one legit WR to throw too? I don’t want to get the rep that I’m a Joe Burrows hater. He had one of the best seasons ever. But there is a lot going on at Baton Rouge right now. That team is a juggernaut. That being said, what happens if they lose to Clemson and Burrows isn’t the best QB in the field? He also has great WR’s and a stud TE. I don’t think he is a lock for #1. Tua will come out. Breaking you hip is a compelling reason to avoid another injury while playing for free. He will be a top 5 pick and still has a good chance of being the first QB off the board. Jalen Hurts is an amazing athlete but is dumb as a fence post. His NFL future is not as a QB. If I’m the Bolts I take the best player available. If that’s a QB so be it. If it’s not, sign Marcus Mariota and a QB whisperer to repair him. Too much talent there to be wasted. Were you this obnoxious on the CMB? Mariota is a joke no thanks, hard pass. Do you apply any analytical thought before you post? You didn’t even know who Joe Burrows was three months ago but think he is the second coming of Johnny Unitas. As soon as I see an original thought from you, I’ll recognize it. The irony of your our post is that Mariota is the 2015 version of Burrows. Ryan Tannehill was a much bigger joke a year ago. He turned out to be a low risk huge reward signing.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 2, 2020 10:35:45 GMT -7
It’s clear that you guys don’t watch much, if any college football. But it’s nice that you took the time to watch the playoffs and some bowl games. Justin Herbert is Blake Bortles v2.0. Big fast with a rocket arm. Accuracy issues and below average reading a defense. Eason and Fromm will stay in college to enhance their draft status. Btw- did you see Fromm last night with only one legit WR to throw too? I don’t want to get the rep that I’m a Joe Burrows hater. He had one of the best seasons ever. But there is a lot going on at Baton Rouge right now. That team is a juggernaut. That being said, what happens if they lose to Clemson and Burrows isn’t the best QB in the field? He also has great WR’s and a stud TE. I don’t think he is a lock for #1. Don't mind me, I'm just over here laughing.
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Post by Chargeroo on Jan 2, 2020 11:13:20 GMT -7
No need to sign a QB in the draft - Teddy Bridgewater would fit us just fine.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 2, 2020 11:30:35 GMT -7
No need to sign a QB in the draft - Teddy Bridgewater would fit us just fine. Good call. His contract is up to.
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Post by jwr10x on Jan 2, 2020 17:33:15 GMT -7
After watching the bowl games I would rather take Tackle Andrew Thomas from Georgia at 6 then get either Jordon Love QB Utah or Jacob Eason QB Washington in the 2nd round.
Tua's injury history and Herbert's inconsistent play make both a reach to me at 6
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 2, 2020 18:13:00 GMT -7
After watching the bowl games I would rather take Tackle Andrew Thomas from Georgia at 6 then get either Jordon Love QB Utah or Jacob Eason QB Washington in the 2nd round. Tua's injury history and Herbert's inconsistent play make both a reach to me at 6 With QB's being never a sure thing with such high risk/cost. Not picking one in the first is a better move
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Post by headtrip on Jan 2, 2020 19:28:00 GMT -7
No need to sign a QB in the draft - Teddy Bridgewater would fit us just fine. That’s an interesting idea. I doubt we sign a FA QB to start unless his name is Rivers though. I wonder what TB is asking.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 3, 2020 2:30:58 GMT -7
No need to sign a QB in the draft - Teddy Bridgewater would fit us just fine. That’s an interesting idea. I doubt we sign a FA QB to start unless his name is Rivers though. I wonder what TB is asking. He is going to demand good money in Free Agency. He REALLY showcased himself filling in for Brees. I have two things that cause me pause...............He played for New Orleans roster. Let me tell you here and now, not everyone has NO's roster. Then he was coached by Sean Peyton. Not everyone is Sean Peyton. REACT TO MY IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 3, 2020 2:58:03 GMT -7
After watching the bowl games I would rather take Tackle Andrew Thomas from Georgia at 6 then get either Jordon Love QB Utah or Jacob Eason QB Washington in the 2nd round. Tua's injury history and Herbert's inconsistent play make both a reach to me at 6 With QB's being never a sure thing with such high risk/cost. Not picking one in the first is a better move Ummmmmmmmmm, simply put--------no. Not sure how to spell this out for you exactly. For better or worse, lately I have been hitting short posts, and then responding to replies as a follow up/expansion. My fertile mind gets bored quickly with details. In fact it may just be easier to command everyone to believe me, rather than typing blah blah crap. Ah, but try I must I suppose.................. There is rarely a sure thing. But try to look at it as percentages of success. Burrow is a 90% chance of success (just making up numbers here to show my point). Herbert is an 83% chance. Tua is 83% chance (plus or minus his injury/recovery) . These are first round projections. Once you leave the first round, the percentages take a nose dive. John Armslinger is projected in the second round FOR A REASON. Remember my words there. THERE ARE REASONS.
I can see guys typing responses like Farve and Brees were second round picks. What I am telling you has absolutely nothing to do with that. Of course the other rounds have hit on good QB's in history. But they are way further and far apart. You are a GM. Are you literally going to put your career on the line for less than a first rounder at QB ?? No. Of course you aren't. IF it is all high risk, you have to TRY and mitigate that risk any way you can. You will play the higher percentages of first round grades. THAT is what GM's do. You know where to send my paychecks.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 3, 2020 7:43:01 GMT -7
That’s an interesting idea. I doubt we sign a FA QB to start unless his name is Rivers though. I wonder what TB is asking. He is going to demand good money in Free Agency. He REALLY showcased himself filling in for Brees. I have two things that cause me pause...............He played for New Orleans roster. Let me tell you here and now, not everyone has NO's roster. Then he was coached by Sean Peyton. Not everyone is Sean Peyton. REACT TO MY IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Exactly my thoughts on Bridgewater... He could easily be a pig with lipstick. Honestly IMHO Tyrod = Bridgewater...
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 3, 2020 8:52:42 GMT -7
With QB's being never a sure thing with such high risk/cost. Not picking one in the first is a better move Ummmmmmmmmm, simply put--------no. Not sure how to spell this out for you exactly. For better or worse, lately I have been hitting short posts, and then responding to replies as a follow up/expansion. My fertile mind gets bored quickly with details. In fact it may just be easier to command everyone to believe me, rather than typing blah blah crap. Ah, but try I must I suppose.................. There is rarely a sure thing. But try to look at it as percentages of success. Burrow is a 90% chance of success (just making up numbers here to show my point). Herbert is an 83% chance. Tua is 83% chance (plus or minus his injury/recovery) . These are first round projections. Once you leave the first round, the percentages take a nose dive. John Armslinger is projected in the second round FOR A REASON. Remember my words there. THERE ARE REASONS.
I can see guys typing responses like Farve and Brees were second round picks. What I am telling you has absolutely nothing to do with that. Of course the other rounds have hit on good QB's in history. But they are way further and far apart. You are a GM. Are you literally going to put your career on the line for less than a first rounder at QB ?? No. Of course you aren't. IF it is all high risk, you have to TRY and mitigate that risk any way you can. You will play the higher percentages of first round grades. THAT is what GM's do. You know where to send my paychecks. Agree there is politics, but I think the risk is too high. I wonder how many first round draft pick QB are starting right now? Well a quick check if you include those who are hurt but would be starting...~16. That 50% of the teams.. So that alone tells you your chances of landing a starter at QB are around 50%. Actually less. Mind you, you are paying them more too. QB hell = Cap hell with a poor QB draftee Fact is the majority of high 1st round QB picks place the teams picking high again with cap issues over the next few years. Most first rounders are back ups. In fact, I think there may be a starter or 2 now would be back ups, if the starter wasn't hurt. I get there are players that the odds of success are a lot higher. Luck was clearly one. So perhaps I should say "Most times not picking one in the first is the better move."
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 3, 2020 9:13:07 GMT -7
Ummmmmmmmmm, simply put--------no. Not sure how to spell this out for you exactly. For better or worse, lately I have been hitting short posts, and then responding to replies as a follow up/expansion. My fertile mind gets bored quickly with details. In fact it may just be easier to command everyone to believe me, rather than typing blah blah crap. Ah, but try I must I suppose.................. There is rarely a sure thing. But try to look at it as percentages of success. Burrow is a 90% chance of success (just making up numbers here to show my point). Herbert is an 83% chance. Tua is 83% chance (plus or minus his injury/recovery) . These are first round projections. Once you leave the first round, the percentages take a nose dive. John Armslinger is projected in the second round FOR A REASON. Remember my words there. THERE ARE REASONS.
I can see guys typing responses like Farve and Brees were second round picks. What I am telling you has absolutely nothing to do with that. Of course the other rounds have hit on good QB's in history. But they are way further and far apart. You are a GM. Are you literally going to put your career on the line for less than a first rounder at QB ?? No. Of course you aren't. IF it is all high risk, you have to TRY and mitigate that risk any way you can. You will play the higher percentages of first round grades. THAT is what GM's do. You know where to send my paychecks. Agree there is politics, but I think the risk is too high. I wonder how many first round draft pick QB are starting right now? Well a quick check if you include those who are hurt but would be starting...~16. That 50% of the teams.. So that alone tells you your chances of landing a starter at QB are around 50%. Actually less. Mind you, you are paying them more too. QB hell = Cap hell with a poor QB draftee Fact is the majority of high 1st round QB picks place the teams picking high again with cap issues over the next few years. Most first rounders are back ups. In fact, I think there may be a starter or 2 now would be back ups, if the starter wasn't hurt. I get there are players that the odds of success are a lot higher. Luck was clearly one. So perhaps I should say "Most times not picking one in the first is the better move." I posted. You can choose to doubt me.
Also, teams COVET and crave 1st round QB's for 5th year team option rookie contracts.
Doubting is not wise.
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Post by lazylightning on Jan 3, 2020 9:28:01 GMT -7
Ummmmmmmmmm, simply put--------no. Not sure how to spell this out for you exactly. For better or worse, lately I have been hitting short posts, and then responding to replies as a follow up/expansion. My fertile mind gets bored quickly with details. In fact it may just be easier to command everyone to believe me, rather than typing blah blah crap. Ah, but try I must I suppose.................. There is rarely a sure thing. But try to look at it as percentages of success. Burrow is a 90% chance of success (just making up numbers here to show my point). Herbert is an 83% chance. Tua is 83% chance (plus or minus his injury/recovery) . These are first round projections. Once you leave the first round, the percentages take a nose dive. John Armslinger is projected in the second round FOR A REASON. Remember my words there. THERE ARE REASONS.
I can see guys typing responses like Farve and Brees were second round picks. What I am telling you has absolutely nothing to do with that. Of course the other rounds have hit on good QB's in history. But they are way further and far apart. You are a GM. Are you literally going to put your career on the line for less than a first rounder at QB ?? No. Of course you aren't. IF it is all high risk, you have to TRY and mitigate that risk any way you can. You will play the higher percentages of first round grades. THAT is what GM's do. You know where to send my paychecks. No debate with the QB reasoning, but there may be other considerations. For example, would you take a #2/3 projected QB in first round or a Derwin James/Joey Bosa. Perhaps you could have the #1 rated offensive tackle at pick six or Tua. It is way to early to say TT has to take a QB in the first round. It all depends on what the team decides with Rivers. If Rivers walks, you can pretty much guarantee a QB at pick six with Taylor starting. If Rivers stays, and I think he will, then I can easily see the team going in a different direction.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Jan 3, 2020 11:44:07 GMT -7
Ummmmmmmmmm, simply put--------no. Not sure how to spell this out for you exactly. For better or worse, lately I have been hitting short posts, and then responding to replies as a follow up/expansion. My fertile mind gets bored quickly with details. In fact it may just be easier to command everyone to believe me, rather than typing blah blah crap. Ah, but try I must I suppose.................. There is rarely a sure thing. But try to look at it as percentages of success. Burrow is a 90% chance of success (just making up numbers here to show my point). Herbert is an 83% chance. Tua is 83% chance (plus or minus his injury/recovery) . These are first round projections. Once you leave the first round, the percentages take a nose dive. John Armslinger is projected in the second round FOR A REASON. Remember my words there. THERE ARE REASONS.
I can see guys typing responses like Farve and Brees were second round picks. What I am telling you has absolutely nothing to do with that. Of course the other rounds have hit on good QB's in history. But they are way further and far apart. You are a GM. Are you literally going to put your career on the line for less than a first rounder at QB ?? No. Of course you aren't. IF it is all high risk, you have to TRY and mitigate that risk any way you can. You will play the higher percentages of first round grades. THAT is what GM's do. You know where to send my paychecks. No debate with the QB reasoning, but there may be other considerations. For example, would you take a #2/3 projected QB in first round or a Derwin James/Joey Bosa. Perhaps you could have the #1 rated offensive tackle at pick six or Tua. It is way to early to say TT has to take a QB in the first round. It all depends on what the team decides with Rivers. If Rivers walks, you can pretty much guarantee a QB at pick six with Taylor starting. If Rivers stays, and I think he will, then I can easily see the team going in a different direction. We are in accord, LL. First, I'd rather have Rivers back (for two more years!) than any of the QBs we could draft at 6 (injury.inconsistency, etc.). And not drafting a QB (in any round) allows us to take BPA, which hopefully would include a few early O-line selections! But the non-QBs we could take at 6 are very enticing, even to a non-draftnik like me. I think the DT from Auburn is a stud, the CB from Ohio State, the OT/G from Iowa, the huge tackle from Alabama, the WR from Alabama, a few of the Clemson defenders- any of these guys would improve our team right away and give a Rivers-led team a chance. As a Chargers fan, if we do take a QB (likely Herbert, slight chance of Tua) I'd support him 110% but neither inspires me that we'd be set for the future. Of course I could be wrong but playing the odds tells me go with PR at least one more year!
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 3, 2020 14:46:36 GMT -7
No debate with the QB reasoning, but there may be other considerations. For example, would you take a #2/3 projected QB in first round or a Derwin James/Joey Bosa. Perhaps you could have the #1 rated offensive tackle at pick six or Tua. It is way to early to say TT has to take a QB in the first round. It all depends on what the team decides with Rivers. If Rivers walks, you can pretty much guarantee a QB at pick six with Taylor starting. If Rivers stays, and I think he will, then I can easily see the team going in a different direction.We are in accord, LL. First, I'd rather have Rivers back (for two more years!) than any of the QBs we could draft at 6 (injury.inconsistency, etc.). And not drafting a QB (in any round) allows us to take BPA, which hopefully would include a few early O-line selections! But the non-QBs we could take at 6 are very enticing, even to a non-draftnik like me. I think the DT from Auburn is a stud, the CB from Ohio State, the OT/G from Iowa, the huge tackle from Alabama, the WR from Alabama, a few of the Clemson defenders- any of these guys would improve our team right away and give a Rivers-led team a chance.As a Chargers fan, if we do take a QB (likely Herbert, slight chance of Tua) I'd support him 110% but neither inspires me that we'd be set for the future. Of course I could be wrong but playing the odds tells me go with PR at least one more year! I would do this under one condition.
You would have to give me the Freak All In Mode. I mean free agent the hell out of talent, and that Number 6 pick cannot miss. You know Derwin James type of first round, versus whatever the hell Tillery is in the first round...........................
REACT TO MY DESTRUCTION OF FIRST ROUND TILLERY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS FREE AGENCY CANNOT CONSIST OF OVERPAYING A BACK UP QB WHEN YOUR STARTER IS DOING GODDAMN 225 STRAIGHT STARTS IN A ROW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's not my All In formula. At all. Not even close. Fight for LA.
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