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Post by frozendisc on Mar 4, 2019 9:00:12 GMT -7
At least when I fanboyed over L.Green, it wasn't about being a 1st round pick. He was a 4th. AND I hadn't spent every day for the prior four years saying that we needed to draft OLine. We've had, and do have, weapons for Rivers. But we need to protect him better. And on the other side of the ball, we need to stop the run in the middle. I can't believe your position on this. Were you just kidding when you flooded every single thread for years about the need for OLine? The reality is there isn't a lot to OL talent in this draft according to the draftnics. So picking OL there seems not a wise choice. Disc is BPA first 2 rounds. He has been consistent in that. I would if there was a PON OL player there who fell to 28. Personally, I hope that happens. The interior OL needs help. There is player "barkley?" that is listed as C & OG. Has high marks for both. That sounds like a good pick to me. I would love to see a top OL player fall to us @28th, but my guess is the best talent sitting there will not be OL. Fant would be an obvious example, and would be great addition to the Bolts. I looked at the OL available @ 60th, but again saw serious talent sitting there in Harry, had to take that talent. Looked again for OL @ 91st, but the best talent available wasn't found in OL players. Lamar was the pick, partially because of PON, but mostly because of his talent versus others available. The 4th rd was where OL and the other positions really started getting close in value. I could have gone with an OL pick, but decided on Mack. 5th, 6th and 7th picks were PON picks, and they all have some position flexibility, but come with challenges as expected.
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Post by jwr10x on Mar 4, 2019 14:10:23 GMT -7
Just looking over the current mock drafts on line
Chargers pick #28
Daniel Jeremiah , Charley Casserly have Mack Wilson LB Alabama
Maurice Jones Drew ,Bucky Brooks & Walterfootball have Devin Bush LB Michigan
Lance Zierlein has Ed Oliver DT Houston
Ryan Wilson CBS has Jonah Williams OT Alabama
Chad Reuter has Dalton Risner OT Kansas St.
Peter Schrager has Will Griffen QB West Virgina
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Post by ltocbolts on Mar 4, 2019 16:03:38 GMT -7
Just looking over the current mock drafts on line Chargers pick #28 Daniel Jeremiah , Charley Casserly have Mack Wilson LB Alabama Maurice Jones Drew ,Bucky Brooks & Walterfootball have Devin Bush LB Michigan Lance Zierlein has Ed Oliver DT Houston Ryan Wilson CBS has Jonah Williams OT Alabama Chad Reuter has Dalton Risner OT Kansas St. Peter Schrager has Will Griffen QB West Virgina Let's see, LB, DT, OL . . . .. seems about right.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 5, 2019 3:44:15 GMT -7
28th.....Noah Fant TE 60th....N'Keal Harry WR 91st....Tre Lamar ILB 130th....Daylon Mack DL1T 166th....Beau Benzschawel OG 200th....Paul Adams OT 242nd....Michael Jordan OG TW and TB are gone..... Perryman is resigned...... UDFA's will see at least two QB's..... In looking at the specifics of our WR/TE population, it is surprising you would draft Fant @28. As stated, I do like the player. I guess it can be said that talent level is important in mock drafters.  It is criminal negligence to draft diva receiver Harry @60, especially after going with Fant @28. We must address our needs rather than cater to fantasy football whims. The league is trending towards small, quicker defenses. Most do not get this. See the CJ Mosely wankers. Tre Lamar cannot diagnose. This is a no. Mack is only a 1Tech. That is why I do not mock him. Benzschawel. Decent value. Not my guy. Adams. Others like him. Not Eye. Jordan. Athletically top tier. Plays tall. Gone well before the 200s. Please lick your wounds and try again soon. Sincerely, woodeye Scouting Bureau.
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Post by totallybolted on Mar 5, 2019 6:52:39 GMT -7
28th.....Noah Fant TE 60th....N'Keal Harry WR 91st....Tre Lamar ILB 130th....Daylon Mack DL1T 166th....Beau Benzschawel OG 200th....Paul Adams OT 242nd....Michael Jordan OG TW and TB are gone..... Perryman is resigned...... UDFA's will see at least two QB's.....
It is criminal negligence to draft diva receiver Harry @60, especially after going with Fant @28. We must address our needs rather than cater to fantasy football whims.
The league is trending towards small, quicker defenses. Most do not get this. See the CJ Mosely wankers. Tre Lamar cannot diagnose. This is a no.
Mack is only a 1Tech. That is why I do not mock him.
Benzschawel. Decent value. Not my guy.
Adams. Others like him. Not Eye.
Jordan. Athletically top tier. Plays tall. Gone well before the 200s.
Please lick your wounds and try again soon.
Sincerely,
woodeye Scouting Bureau.
Change that font. Its unreadable
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Post by woodeye on Mar 5, 2019 7:31:00 GMT -7
In looking at the specifics of our WR/TE population, it is surprising you would draft Fant @28. As stated, I do like the player. I guess it can be said that talent level is important in mock drafters.
It is criminal negligence to draft diva receiver Harry @60, especially after going with Fant @28. We must address our needs rather than cater to fantasy football whims.
The league is trending towards small, quicker defenses. Most do not get this. See the CJ Mosely wankers. Tre Lamar cannot diagnose. This is a no.
Mack is only a 1Tech. That is why I do not mock him.
Benzschawel. Decent value. Not my guy.
Adams. Others like him. Not Eye.
Jordan. Athletically top tier. Plays tall. Gone well before the 200s.
Please lick your wounds and try again soon.
Sincerely,
woodeye Scouting Bureau.
Change that font. Its unreadable You sure ? Could be that is not Iphone compatible. Android here. Looks beautiful. OK. Harsh and constructive. Here we go. |
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 5, 2019 8:14:07 GMT -7
28th.....Noah Fant TE 60th....N'Keal Harry WR 91st....Tre Lamar ILB 130th....Daylon Mack DL1T 166th....Beau Benzschawel OG 200th....Paul Adams OT 242nd....Michael Jordan OG TW and TB are gone..... Perryman is resigned...... UDFA's will see at least two QB's..... In looking at the specifics of our WR/TE population, it is surprising you would draft Fant @28. As stated, I do like the player. I guess it can be said that talent level is important in mock drafters. It is criminal negligence to draft diva receiver Harry @60, especially after going with Fant @28. We must address our needs rather than cater to fantasy football whims. The league is trending towards small, quicker defenses. Most do not get this. See the CJ Mosely wankers. Tre Lamar cannot diagnose. This is a no. Mack is only a 1Tech. That is why I do not mock him. Benzschawel. Decent value. Not my guy. Adams. Others like him. Not Eye. Jordan. Athletically top tier. Plays tall. Gone well before the 200s. Please lick your wounds and try again soon. Sincerely, woodeye Scouting Bureau. Looking forward to your PON mock draft..... The only 'football takes' seem to be "Tre Lamar cannot diagnose" and Jordan "Plays tall"........no wonder you are bad at this.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 5, 2019 8:23:18 GMT -7
In looking at the specifics of our WR/TE population, it is surprising you would draft Fant @28. As stated, I do like the player. I guess it can be said that talent level is important in mock drafters. It is criminal negligence to draft diva receiver Harry @60, especially after going with Fant @28. We must address our needs rather than cater to fantasy football whims. The league is trending towards small, quicker defenses. Most do not get this. See the CJ Mosely wankers. Tre Lamar cannot diagnose. This is a no. Mack is only a 1Tech. That is why I do not mock him. Benzschawel. Decent value. Not my guy. Adams. Others like him. Not Eye. Jordan. Athletically top tier. Plays tall. Gone well before the 200s. Please lick your wounds and try again soon. Sincerely, woodeye Scouting Bureau. Looking forward to your PON mock draft..... The only 'football takes' seem to be "Tre Lamar cannot diagnose" and Jordan "Plays tall"........no wonder you are bad at this. I will add a third football take. I do not like the shape of Daylon Mack's spider graph chart...
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 5, 2019 8:43:51 GMT -7
Looking forward to your PON mock draft..... The only 'football takes' seem to be "Tre Lamar cannot diagnose" and Jordan "Plays tall"........no wonder you are bad at this. I will add a third football take. I do not like the shape of Daylon Mack's spider graph chart... You have no vision, why do people use your scouting machine.......must be all bout the marketing.
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Post by marconi on Mar 5, 2019 10:29:56 GMT -7
Ok, I'll jump into the fray. I grew up on Air Coryell so there is nothing I love more than the passing game. However, if our QB has no time to throw because our O-line can't block, or we can't establish a running game and the D is just teeing off on the QB, then it doesn't matter how many great receivers you have because they will never see the ball. You can't have a good passing game without a good O-line. I will concede that this draft isn't deep in that area, so all the more reason to take the best Offensive lineman available in the first round. To me that would be OT Andre Dillard of Wash. State. He checks all the boxes for what you are looking for in a LT. Size, strength, intelligence, but most of all quick feet. His biggest strength and experience is protection in the passing game
To me, your first round pick has to be foundational. It has to be a player who will benefit the team for years to come. Dillard fits the bill. We've recently invested high picks in TE and WR but we've been putting band-aids on the tackle position for years. It's time to step up and address it. Rivers isn't getting any younger and if he goes down, we're done.
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 5, 2019 10:46:49 GMT -7
Ok, I'll jump into the fray. I grew up on Air Coryell so there is nothing I love more than the passing game. However, if our QB has no time to throw because our O-line can't block, or we can't establish a running game and the D is just teeing off on the QB, then it doesn't matter how many great receivers you have because they will never see the ball. You can't have a good passing game without a good O-line. I will concede that this draft isn't deep in that area, so all the more reason to take the best Offensive lineman available in the first round. To me that would be OT Andre Dillard of Wash. State. He checks all the boxes for what you are looking for in a LT. Size, strength, intelligence, but most of all quick feet. His biggest strength and experience is protection in the passing game
To me, your first round pick has to be foundational. It has to be a player who will benefit the team for years to come. Dillard fits the bill. We've recently invested high picks in TE and WR but we've been putting band-aids on the tackle position for years. It's time to step up and address it. Rivers isn't getting any younger and if he goes down, we're done.
Great post, except I differ in the middle bolded part. If it isn't a good pool this year, and we are picking at #28, that tells me the goodies are long gone and we are have to settle for god knows what in the valuable first round. Fluker ?
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Post by chargerfreak on Mar 5, 2019 10:48:17 GMT -7
I will add a third football take. I do not like the shape of Daylon Mack's spider graph chart... You have no vision, why do people use your scouting machine.......must be all bout the marketing. The 5 on 2 power plays have been relentless. Woodeye ? Any defense ?
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Post by BoKnows on Mar 5, 2019 15:52:51 GMT -7
TE in the first round? Pfft OK. Not going happen. Maybe if Coryell were still the HC.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 5, 2019 15:54:42 GMT -7
TE in the first round? Pfft OK. Not going happen. Maybe if Coryell were still the HC. Goalie has had too many pucks to the old melon, eh ? Then he wants a WR in round two.
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Post by BoKnows on Mar 5, 2019 18:49:19 GMT -7
And I like him as a player but even Tre Lamar said his best fit is as a 3-4 LB..... Which he shouldn't have said. But he did.
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