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Post by frozendisc on Jan 22, 2020 21:26:33 GMT -7
If they simply keep Tyrod you pretty much bet they'll take a QB with the 6th pick. If they add Bridgewater or some other FA, they may go bpa with it. What ever they do I believe a lot of the guys that have been hating PR this season will end up wishing they had him back. He's still better than any of these QB's we've been discussing. and it isn't even remotely close. QB hell here we are........
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Post by moekid on Jan 22, 2020 22:11:19 GMT -7
If they simply keep Tyrod you pretty much bet they'll take a QB with the 6th pick. If they add Bridgewater or some other FA, they may go bpa with it. What ever they do I believe a lot of the guys that have been hating PR this season will end up wishing they had him back. He's still better than any of these QB's we've been discussing. Not so much the version we saw in 2019. And are better days ahead for the 38 year old? The new QB rules have kept these guys relatively healthy for much longer.
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Post by headtrip on Jan 22, 2020 22:57:40 GMT -7
If they simply keep Tyrod you pretty much bet they'll take a QB with the 6th pick. If they add Bridgewater or some other FA, they may go bpa with it. What ever they do I believe a lot of the guys that have been hating PR this season will end up wishing they had him back. He's still better than any of these QB's we've been discussing. Not so much the version we saw in 2019. And are better days ahead for the 38 year old? The new QB rules have kept these guys relatively healthy for much longer. I only got to watch about half the games but it seemed to me that PR was the same as usual. Great when he had enough protection, trigger happy when he didn’t, which was always except on the 14 screen passes per game we ran. He can still make all the throws and get through his reads at a high level. I do worry his arm strength declining Payton style but I don’t think we’ll get to that bridge by next year.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 23, 2020 2:44:45 GMT -7
If they simply keep Tyrod you pretty much bet they'll take a QB with the 6th pick. If they add Bridgewater or some other FA, they may go bpa with it. What ever they do I believe a lot of the guys that have been hating PR this season will end up wishing they had him back. He's still better than any of these QB's we've been discussing. and it isn't even remotely close. QB hell here we are........ Not even remotely close ? Teddy Bridgewater is THE best back up in the NFL. He went 5-0 this year. You will all see magic this offseason. He will be HIGHLY coveted, will be starting for an NFL team, and is going to get Millions and millions. You ask 32 teams you can start Taylor or Bridgewater for 2020. Take a shot at how many will choose Bridgewater ? Let me help you at the highest levels. The current rumors is that the Patriots want Bridgewater. Just for some compare and contrast for Tyrod...................................yeah, its like that. You can't start at bad Cleveland and Buffalo......whew. That's Tyrod's history. Wow.
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 23, 2020 6:56:47 GMT -7
Not so much the version we saw in 2019. And are better days ahead for the 38 year old? The new QB rules have kept these guys relatively healthy for much longer. I only got to watch about half the games but it seemed to me that PR was the same as usual. Great when he had enough protection, trigger happy when he didn’t, which was always except on the 14 screen passes per game we ran. He can still make all the throws and get through his reads at a high level. I do worry his arm strength declining Payton style but I don’t think we’ll get to that bridge by next year. This is where I am at. Not so much the arm strength. Doesn't seem to be declining there. PR is a damn good QB when he has protection. So he good enough to get 12 -14 wins. The problem is the PO or when things are tight. Spastic. I think as a result he tries to do too much, and places too much on his shoulders. So I am ready to move on this year, or next. We are not in QB hell. QB hell is when you do not have a QB you can call good. land the right FA, or draft the right one and QB hell may not ever arrive.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 23, 2020 7:07:31 GMT -7
Controversial statement: This team is built for any QB not named PR or Tom Brady.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 23, 2020 7:55:14 GMT -7
I only got to watch about half the games but it seemed to me that PR was the same as usual. Great when he had enough protection, trigger happy when he didn’t, which was always except on the 14 screen passes per game we ran. He can still make all the throws and get through his reads at a high level. I do worry his arm strength declining Payton style but I don’t think we’ll get to that bridge by next year. This is where I am at. Not so much the arm strength. Doesn't seem to be declining there. PR is a damn good QB when he has protection. So he good enough to get 12 -14 wins. The problem is the PO or when things are tight. Spastic. I think as a result he tries to do too much, and places too much on his shoulders. So I am ready to move on this year, or next. We are not in QB hell. QB hell is when you do not have a QB you can call good. land the right FA, or draft the right one and QB hell may not ever arrive. You say "QB hell is when you do not have a QB you can call good" and I say.......Taylor and Stick are your QB's......welcome to QB hell.
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Post by cthommes on Jan 23, 2020 7:57:36 GMT -7
Controversial statement: This team is built for any QB not named PR or Tom Brady. Is that just a cryptic way of saying we have a trash o line? Because that's not very controversial.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 23, 2020 8:03:37 GMT -7
and it isn't even remotely close. QB hell here we are........ Not even remotely close ? Teddy Bridgewater is THE best back up in the NFL. He went 5-0 this year. You will all see magic this offseason. He will be HIGHLY coveted, will be starting for an NFL team, and is going to get Millions and millions. You ask 32 teams you can start Taylor or Bridgewater for 2020. Take a shot at how many will choose Bridgewater ? Let me help you at the highest levels. The current rumors is that the Patriots want Bridgewater. Just for some compare and contrast for Tyrod...................................yeah, its like that. You can't start at bad Cleveland and Buffalo......whew. That's Tyrod's history. Wow. How about asking those same 32 clubs which would you start Brady or Bridgewater...... My point is you do not have Brady, Bridgewater or Rivers....you have Taylor and Stick. I get that neither of those two project to be anywhere near awesome, but the FA QB's mentioned are going to cost a ton, and Bridgewater is unlikely to embrace a 1-2 year contract. TT clearly needs to inquire with all the FA QB's, but if the numbers do not work, or the interest simply is not there....then what? Roll with Taylor, and let the Lose For Lawrence campaign begin.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 23, 2020 8:50:43 GMT -7
Not even remotely close ? Teddy Bridgewater is THE best back up in the NFL. He went 5-0 this year. You will all see magic this offseason. He will be HIGHLY coveted, will be starting for an NFL team, and is going to get Millions and millions. You ask 32 teams you can start Taylor or Bridgewater for 2020. Take a shot at how many will choose Bridgewater ? Let me help you at the highest levels. The current rumors is that the Patriots want Bridgewater. Just for some compare and contrast for Tyrod...................................yeah, its like that. You can't start at bad Cleveland and Buffalo......whew. That's Tyrod's history. Wow. How about asking those same 32 clubs which would you start Brady or Bridgewater...... My point is you do not have Brady, Bridgewater or Rivers....you have Taylor and Stick. I get that neither of those two project to be anywhere near awesome, but the FA QB's mentioned are going to cost a ton, and Bridgewater is unlikely to embrace a 1-2 year contract. TT clearly needs to inquire with all the FA QB's, but if the numbers do not work, or the interest simply is not there....then what? Roll with Taylor, and let the Lose For Lawrence campaign begin. We do not have Brady, Bridgewater, or Rivers so we HAVE to roll with Taylor and Stick ? Are you ok. We have to acquire help. One thing you guys do not get is "Throw away this season for unknown fantasies of next draft." That is NOT how any any any any any any any of this works. At all. Teams do not do this. I am not saying we are moving up, but if a team wants to move up now for Burrow KNOWING we are in the 6th spot, versus moving up from unknown positions of next draft, then you do now. There is no tomorrow in 2020 game planning and strategy.
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Post by frozendisc on Jan 23, 2020 9:03:25 GMT -7
How about asking those same 32 clubs which would you start Brady or Bridgewater...... My point is you do not have Brady, Bridgewater or Rivers....you have Taylor and Stick. I get that neither of those two project to be anywhere near awesome, but the FA QB's mentioned are going to cost a ton, and Bridgewater is unlikely to embrace a 1-2 year contract. TT clearly needs to inquire with all the FA QB's, but if the numbers do not work, or the interest simply is not there....then what? Roll with Taylor, and let the Lose For Lawrence campaign begin. We do not have Brady, Bridgewater, or Rivers so we HAVE to roll with Taylor and Stick ? Are you ok. We have to acquire help. One thing you guys do not get is "Throw away this season for unknown fantasies of next draft." That is NOT how any any any any any any any of this works. At all. Teams do not do this. I am not saying we are moving up, but if a team wants to move up now for Burrow KNOWING we are in the 6th spot, versus moving up from unknown positions of next draft, then you do now. There is no tomorrow in 2020 game planning and strategy. Once again, I ask you to show me where I said they have to roll with Taylor........I simply did not say that. I did say TT needs to inquire with all the FA QB's, but you must have skipped that in your hurry to post another misleading post.
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Post by totallybolted on Jan 23, 2020 9:04:42 GMT -7
This is where I am at. Not so much the arm strength. Doesn't seem to be declining there. PR is a damn good QB when he has protection. So he good enough to get 12 -14 wins. The problem is the PO or when things are tight. Spastic. I think as a result he tries to do too much, and places too much on his shoulders. So I am ready to move on this year, or next. We are not in QB hell. QB hell is when you do not have a QB you can call good. land the right FA, or draft the right one and QB hell may not ever arrive. You say "QB hell is when you do not have a QB you can call good" and I say.......Taylor and Stick are your QB's......welcome to QB hell. The operative word is really "yet". Nothing is final with PR. FA has not even started. Long ways to go before hell comes. In fact, you do not really even know what you have with Tyrod if that is where we end up. You have to have him play with this squad (future), with this coach, with this system, with this OC. nope we are not even close to QB hell.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 23, 2020 9:24:35 GMT -7
We do not have Brady, Bridgewater, or Rivers so we HAVE to roll with Taylor and Stick ? Are you ok. We have to acquire help. One thing you guys do not get is "Throw away this season for unknown fantasies of next draft." That is NOT how any any any any any any any of this works. At all. Teams do not do this. I am not saying we are moving up, but if a team wants to move up now for Burrow KNOWING we are in the 6th spot, versus moving up from unknown positions of next draft, then you do now. There is no tomorrow in 2020 game planning and strategy. Once again, I ask you to show me where I said they have to roll with Taylor........I simply did not say that. I did say TT needs to inquire with all the FA QB's, but you must have skipped that in your hurry to post another misleading post. I was in no hurry when I twisted the meaning of your post.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jan 23, 2020 9:26:05 GMT -7
You say "QB hell is when you do not have a QB you can call good" and I say.......Taylor and Stick are your QB's......welcome to QB hell. The operative word is really "yet". Nothing is final with PR. FA has not even started. Long ways to go before hell comes. In fact, you do not really even know what you have with Tyrod if that is where we end up. You have to have him play with this squad (future), with this coach, with this system, with this OC. nope we are not even close to QB hell. Oh they know. Trust me to your core, they know.
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Post by afboltfan on Jan 23, 2020 10:08:33 GMT -7
Controversial statement: This team is built for any QB not named PR or Tom Brady. Is that just a cryptic way of saying we have a trash o line? Because that's not very controversial. Basically... But I think in general as well.
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