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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 10, 2020 22:13:06 GMT -7
Now that PR is out of contention, if the Chargers want to roll with TT (as frozen would put it), there’s another consideration: Would TT start for the same contract, or hold out for more? Unless the Bolts are going to bring in another QB (probably suggesting if not requiring a TT contract restructure, given other needs), that would be the next thing to watch for. Given their history, I suspect AL is looking to roll with TT. Not a chance Taylor gets the nod as starting QB, then shoots himself in the groin by holding out....... Where do you come up with this stuff? Taylor is under contract. He plays as such, or he finds himself sitting with the anthem protester........ I’m suggesting there’s been no nod yet. TT is now the first string—but is he the starter? Where do I come up with this stuff? There are thoughts that come from evaluating what’s known and considering party relationships, contracts, incentives, contracts, complex situations, and negotiation/litigation. I’m not an insider and this is for my own interest and amusement (and perhaps others’), not compensation. TT is under contract like Gordon was under contract. If you’re the Chargers, do you assume your backup-now-QB1-on-the-final-year guy, who is now the de facto starting QB, doesn’t look for more money? Is he the QB1? If not, then carry on. But if he might be: Who has the leverage now? |
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Post by moekid on Feb 11, 2020 0:15:58 GMT -7
Not a chance Taylor gets the nod as starting QB, then shoots himself in the groin by holding out....... Where do you come up with this stuff? Taylor is under contract. He plays as such, or he finds himself sitting with the anthem protester........ I’m suggesting there’s been no nod yet. TT is now the first string—but is he the starter? Where do I come up with this stuff? There are thoughts that come from evaluating what’s known and considering party relationships, contracts, incentives, contracts, complex situations, and negotiation/litigation. I’m not an insider and this is for my own interest and amusement (and perhaps others’), not compensation. TT is under contract like Gordon was under contract. If you’re the Chargers, do you assume your backup-now-QB1-on-the-final-year guy, who is now the de facto starting QB, doesn’t look for more money? Is he the QB1? If not, then carry on. But if he might be: Who has the leverage now? That would be a colossal dumb move for a guy who only has 1 year left on his contract and can earn a big payday by playing well. Oh wait, that’s what Gordon did |
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Post by headtrip on Feb 11, 2020 0:33:46 GMT -7
Not a chance Taylor gets the nod as starting QB, then shoots himself in the groin by holding out....... Where do you come up with this stuff? Taylor is under contract. He plays as such, or he finds himself sitting with the anthem protester........ I’m suggesting there’s been no nod yet. TT is now the first string—but is he the starter? Where do I come up with this stuff? There are thoughts that come from evaluating what’s known and considering party relationships, contracts, incentives, contracts, complex situations, and negotiation/litigation. I’m not an insider and this is for my own interest and amusement (and perhaps others’), not compensation. TT is under contract like Gordon was under contract. If you’re the Chargers, do you assume your backup-now-QB1-on-the-final-year guy, who is now the de facto starting QB, doesn’t look for more money? Is he the QB1? If not, then carry on. But if he might be: Who has the leverage now? Puck Face is seldom right, but you know... Broken clock and whatnot. Taylor has absolutely no leverage to hold out with.
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 11, 2020 1:16:58 GMT -7
I’m suggesting there’s been no nod yet. TT is now the first string—but is he the starter? Where do I come up with this stuff? There are thoughts that come from evaluating what’s known and considering party relationships, contracts, incentives, contracts, complex situations, and negotiation/litigation. I’m not an insider and this is for my own interest and amusement (and perhaps others’), not compensation. TT is under contract like Gordon was under contract. If you’re the Chargers, do you assume your backup-now-QB1-on-the-final-year guy, who is now the de facto starting QB, doesn’t look for more money? Is he the QB1? If not, then carry on. But if he might be: Who has the leverage now? Puck Face is seldom right, but you know... Broken clock and whatnot. Taylor has absolutely no leverage to hold out with. Perhaps not. Everyone has different motivators and incentives. I’m just positing, and with little to go by, exploring different scenarios that might be possible. |
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Post by headtrip on Feb 11, 2020 1:19:53 GMT -7
Puck Face is seldom right, but you know... Broken clock and whatnot. Taylor has absolutely no leverage to hold out with. Perhaps not. Everyone has different motivators and incentives. I’m just positing, and with little to go by, exploring different scenarios that might be possible. Completely reasonable. It’s certainly unlikely, but it is a possibility.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 11, 2020 1:50:33 GMT -7
Not a chance Taylor gets the nod as starting QB, then shoots himself in the groin by holding out....... Where do you come up with this stuff? Taylor is under contract. He plays as such, or he finds himself sitting with the anthem protester........ I’m suggesting there’s been no nod yet. TT is now the first string—but is he the starter? Where do I come up with this stuff? There are thoughts that come from evaluating what’s known and considering party relationships, contracts, incentives, contracts, complex situations, and negotiation/litigation. I’m not an insider and this is for my own interest and amusement (and perhaps others’), not compensation. TT is under contract like Gordon was under contract. If you’re the Chargers, do you assume your backup-now-QB1-on-the-final-year guy, who is now the de facto starting QB, doesn’t look for more money? Is he the QB1? If not, then carry on. But if he might be: Who has the leverage now? I agree with your possibilities here. When Rivers was final, I guarantee it perked Tyrod ears up. "I could be the starter!". IF he was, his contract would be blind stealing in the league. Tyrod knows it too. I mean to the point they would almost have to throw him a bonus.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 11, 2020 1:52:40 GMT -7
I’m suggesting there’s been no nod yet. TT is now the first string—but is he the starter? Where do I come up with this stuff? There are thoughts that come from evaluating what’s known and considering party relationships, contracts, incentives, contracts, complex situations, and negotiation/litigation. I’m not an insider and this is for my own interest and amusement (and perhaps others’), not compensation. TT is under contract like Gordon was under contract. If you’re the Chargers, do you assume your backup-now-QB1-on-the-final-year guy, who is now the de facto starting QB, doesn’t look for more money? Is he the QB1? If not, then carry on. But if he might be: Who has the leverage now? Puck Face is seldom right, but you know... Broken clock and whatnot. Taylor has absolutely no leverage to hold out with. He does when they look at the depth chart, you are week 1 in KC, and Stick is QB 1. Leverage isn't even the word for that. I might offer Tyrod part ownership at that point. WOW
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Post by headtrip on Feb 11, 2020 2:37:08 GMT -7
I’m suggesting there’s been no nod yet. TT is now the first string—but is he the starter? Where do I come up with this stuff? There are thoughts that come from evaluating what’s known and considering party relationships, contracts, incentives, contracts, complex situations, and negotiation/litigation. I’m not an insider and this is for my own interest and amusement (and perhaps others’), not compensation. TT is under contract like Gordon was under contract. If you’re the Chargers, do you assume your backup-now-QB1-on-the-final-year guy, who is now the de facto starting QB, doesn’t look for more money? Is he the QB1? If not, then carry on. But if he might be: Who has the leverage now? I agree with your possibilities here. When Rivers was final, I guarantee it perked Tyrod ears up. "I could be the starter!". IF he was, his contract would be blind stealing in the league. Tyrod knows it too. I mean to the point they would almost have to throw him a bonus. Naw, the man is making 5 million bucks to audition for 25 million next year. Holding out, while not impossible, would be extremely short sighted to say the least.
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Post by lightsout42 on Feb 11, 2020 2:58:41 GMT -7
I agree with your possibilities here. When Rivers was final, I guarantee it perked Tyrod ears up. "I could be the starter!". IF he was, his contract would be blind stealing in the league. Tyrod knows it too. I mean to the point they would almost have to throw him a bonus. Naw, the man is making 5 million bucks to audition for 25 million next year. Holding out, while not impossible, would be extremely short sighted to say the least. A public holdout seems unlikely. We’ll probably never even see a headline. But I suspect that either Telesco et al have another QB1 in mind — and if that’s the case, TT probably gets offered a 2-year deal to spread out the cap hit or is cut to save the money if they think Stick can roll QB2 — or we’ll see a contract extension for TT. (Doing that after the draft would maintain some pick #6 trade leverage if someone wants to trade up for a QB they want but think the Chargers want to draft.) |
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Post by headtrip on Feb 11, 2020 3:14:33 GMT -7
I really think Taylor is an underrated player. He’s a capable starter in the NFL.
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Post by chargerfreak on Feb 11, 2020 6:25:15 GMT -7
I agree with your possibilities here. When Rivers was final, I guarantee it perked Tyrod ears up. "I could be the starter!". IF he was, his contract would be blind stealing in the league. Tyrod knows it too. I mean to the point they would almost have to throw him a bonus. Naw, the man is making 5 million bucks to audition for 25 million next year. Holding out, while not impossible, would be extremely short sighted to say the least. Point out in the above where I said he was holding out............................................................. My point was to be the starter the team may/should consider a bonus. Before we blah blah, its been done before.
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Post by totallybolted on Feb 11, 2020 7:01:53 GMT -7
Naw, the man is making 5 million bucks to audition for 25 million next year. Holding out, while not impossible, would be extremely short sighted to say the least. Point out in the above where I said he was holding out............................................................. My point was to be the starter the team may/should consider a bonus. Before we blah blah, its been done before. Its quite possible there is already a clause in his contract that pays him a bonus of he start X number of games or something. I think that is more likely here. Tyrod will compete for the #1 with stick, and who ever else they draft.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 11, 2020 7:08:05 GMT -7
Puck Face is seldom right, but you know... Broken clock and whatnot. Taylor has absolutely no leverage to hold out with.He does when they look at the depth chart, you are week 1 in KC, and Stick is QB 1. Leverage isn't even the word for that. I might offer Tyrod part ownership at that point. WOW Week 1, in KC, and it matters which one of Taylor or Stick is being sent out to play? Taylor might have a better game statistically speaking, but in the end, both would likely be 0-1.......
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Post by afboltfan on Feb 11, 2020 7:08:51 GMT -7
I really think Taylor is an underrated player. He’s a capable starter in the NFL. I think we are the only 2 people on this board that feel this way... TT will be week 1 starter with a 50/50 chance we grab Tua or Herbert, Stick is gone in that scenario.
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Post by frozendisc on Feb 11, 2020 7:15:09 GMT -7
Not a chance Taylor gets the nod as starting QB, then shoots himself in the groin by holding out....... Where do you come up with this stuff? Taylor is under contract. He plays as such, or he finds himself sitting with the anthem protester........ I’m suggesting there’s been no nod yet. TT is now the first string—but is he the starter? Where do I come up with this stuff? There are thoughts that come from evaluating what’s known and considering party relationships, contracts, incentives, contracts, complex situations, and negotiation/litigation. I’m not an insider and this is for my own interest and amusement (and perhaps others’), not compensation. TT is under contract like Gordon was under contract. If you’re the Chargers, do you assume your backup-now-QB1-on-the-final-year guy, who is now the de facto starting QB, doesn’t look for more money? Is he the QB1? If not, then carry on. But if he might be: Who has the leverage now? I would agree with your suggestion....... I believe TT will draft Herbert, providing Herbert is still available. TC2020 would then see Herbert, Taylor and Stick battle for QB1...... I do not believe there would be any holdout by any of these possible starting QB's.
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