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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 29, 2020 2:20:43 GMT -7
Jamis Winston signs with NO. Jameis Winston is thrilled to join the New Orleans Saints and become an understudy to Drew Brees, who takes pride in developing young quarterbacks. While having the opportunity to learn from Brees, Winston will also enter a quarterback class taught by Sean Payton and many other Saints coaches. An embarrassment of riches for Winston. "Being a part of (the) New Orleans Saints, with Drew Brees, Taysom Hill, Sean Payton, coach Joe Lombardi (quarterbacks coach), coach Pete Carmichael Jr. (offensive coordinator), when you think about that room, that's like a Harvard education at quarterback school," Winston said on Instagram Live, via Greg Auman of The Athletic. "There's a proverb: Humility comes before honor. I have to humble myself. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be with Drew Brees and to be with the New Orleans Saints and just prepare for when my next opportunity is going to present itself." Winston signed a one-year deal with the Saints, forfeiting an opportunity to possibly win a starting job elsewhere. Instead, he will battle Taysom Hill for the No. 2 job, while redefining his game under the tutelage of Payton and Brees. Calling the Saints quarterback room "a Harvard education at quarterback school" didn't appear to be a subtle jab at Bruce Arians and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers coaching staff, although it's understandable if Winston felt that way. In his first and only year with Arians, Winston led the NFL in passing yards (5,109) and threw a career-high 33 touchdowns, but also threw 30 interceptions, becoming the first quarterback to have a 30-touchdown, 30-interception season. The Buccaneers quarterback room is nothing to slouch at. Arians has been called the "quarterback whisperer" (after resurrecting Carson Palmer's career with the Arizona Cardinals and serving as part of the braintrust that developed Peyton Manning), while quarterbacks coach Clyde Christensen was largely responsible for the development of Andrew Luck when he was with the Indianapolis Colts. Tom Moore (who was with Tampa in OTAs and training camp) was the offensive coordinator for the Colts for 12 seasons (1998 to 2010) and was partially responsible for grooming Manning into one of greatest quarterbacks ever. Perhaps another year with Arians and company would have paid huge dividends for Winston, but he'll get the opportunity to resurrect his career in New Orleans. Winston couldn't pass up the chance to work with Brees and pick his brain. There appears to be no animosity toward his time with the Bucs either. "(There) was no better position than to be in the same room with someone I've really looked up to, someone I've admired since I've been playing this game in Drew Brees," Winston said. "I've done some great things with the Bucs. I'm going to miss being a starting quarterback. But you never know what happens. I think this is a great and unique step to join Drew Brees and (the Saints) and learn from him." Going further into freakness, it was reported he turned down more money from another team to play in NO.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 29, 2020 2:35:05 GMT -7
Why should any of you care about Rivers ? You didn't want him here so he's gone but he still is taking up space in your head Move on already...he is the past and the future is whoever can survive behind this stellar O Line. I know this may be an unpopular take but I cannot get into the Bolts QB situation because the story of Rivers isn't over. I cannot move on because he is still playing, and I can't understand how fans who once loved him can just move on already when the body isn't cold yet. I for one am pretty sure Rivers is going to play at an MVP level with the Colts this year and it pains me that T.T. killed free agency and the draft when Phil's gone, where were these chess moves when P.R. was here?! This will stir some feathers here but I feel Rivers will play at least 3 more years and that my gut is telling me that 2022 Rivers will be playing better than 2022 Herbert which kills me that we didn't tag him or work out a team friendly deal. I know Herbert may be a bust, or even great like Phil but to get to the level we already had, why fix something that isn't broken? (the line was broke, not Phil) but perhaps Phil and Lynn's relationship and the 16 road games is what was broke and maybe Phil didn't want to be back. I have grown to love Phil more a little more than the Chargers, it's unhealthy to have to root for both a player on a different team and a team without my QB. This is painful. A lot have already jumped on the Herbert bandwagon and I hope he's as good or better than Rivers or Fouts but realistically that's a tall order and he could be horrible like Ryan Leaf (great Wonderlic Score horrible talent?), or so-so like Ryan Fitzpatrick (another smart player) or a Stan Humphries or Fouts or Rivers, never know. TT said today that if the Dolphins drafted Herbert TT would of drafted Tua and I could see all the same people in here that are slobbering all over Herbert now ripping him to shreds if he was on the Dolphins. Soo TT actually said Herbert Tua. Who in the world would have ever thought that ?? Who ? Pretty cool huh ? There is nothing wrong with how you feel. You are completely allowed to be a Rivers fan. I know I am. We all know the fierce competitor the Colts signed. I like to make bold predictions, but I'll make an easy prediction for you: People are about to stop debating about whether the problem was Rivers, or the Chargers. Philip Rivers ain't going no goddamn 5-11 THIS year. Book it.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 29, 2020 2:43:35 GMT -7
I know this may be an unpopular take but I cannot get into the Bolts QB situation because the story of Rivers isn't over. I cannot move on because he is still playing, and I can't understand how fans who once loved him can just move on already when the body isn't cold yet. I for one am pretty sure Rivers is going to play at an MVP level with the Colts this year and it pains me that T.T. killed free agency and the draft when Phil's gone, where were these chess moves when P.R. was here?! This will stir some feathers here but I feel Rivers will play at least 3 more years and that my gut is telling me that 2022 Rivers will be playing better than 2022 Herbert which kills me that we didn't tag him or work out a team friendly deal. I know Herbert may be a bust, or even great like Phil but to get to the level we already had, why fix something that isn't broken? (the line was broke, not Phil) but perhaps Phil and Lynn's relationship and the 16 road games is what was broke and maybe Phil didn't want to be back. I have grown to love Phil more a little more than the Chargers, it's unhealthy to have to root for both a player on a different team and a team without my QB. This is painful. A lot have already jumped on the Herbert bandwagon and I hope he's as good or better than Rivers or Fouts but realistically that's a tall order and he could be horrible like Ryan Leaf (great Wonderlic Score horrible talent?), or so-so like Ryan Fitzpatrick (another smart player) or a Stan Humphries or Fouts or Rivers, never know. TT said today that if the Dolphins drafted Herbert TT would of drafted Tua and I could see all the same people in here that are slobbering all over Herbert now ripping him to shreds if he was on the Dolphins. I haven't moved on from PR other than hoping the Colts are the 2nd best team in the AFC in 2020. There were multiple reasons behind my many months away from the board, but one of the main factors was that it became apparent that the franchise was moving on while I wasn't mentally ready for the move. PR is heading to an offense that has similarities to the late 2000's Chargers squads where he didn't have to be in a position to make things happen (more-than-solid oline and skill position players), and with him going to a Reich system where he is more than comfortable I expect a Whiz-like bounce-back performance in 2020. Not attacking you !!!!!!!!!: I would like to understand something. I don't understand, because I feel differently. Forgive me: I think a person is a fan in the tough times and the good times. It takes a real fan to root for a 5-11 team that performs a road show in their own home stadium. Help me navigate between that and our 38 year old QB finally left so I don't support them now. There is a disconnect there for me. I'd like to connect the dots.
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Post by afboltfan on Apr 29, 2020 6:17:48 GMT -7
We had many great times with PR and many more frustrating and head scratching times. I honestly hope he does take the Colts to the Superbowl (yes even over us), it will just cement the fact that this is a poorly owned and managed organization. PR deserves it... But with all that said, for now I'm glad he is gone. We need a fresh start and 2020 seems to be the year.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Apr 29, 2020 6:36:21 GMT -7
I know this may be an unpopular take but I cannot get into the Bolts QB situation because the story of Rivers isn't over. I cannot move on because he is still playing, and I can't understand how fans who once loved him can just move on already when the body isn't cold yet. I for one am pretty sure Rivers is going to play at an MVP level with the Colts this year and it pains me that T.T. killed free agency and the draft when Phil's gone, where were these chess moves when P.R. was here?! This will stir some feathers here but I feel Rivers will play at least 3 more years and that my gut is telling me that 2022 Rivers will be playing better than 2022 Herbert which kills me that we didn't tag him or work out a team friendly deal. I know Herbert may be a bust, or even great like Phil but to get to the level we already had, why fix something that isn't broken? (the line was broke, not Phil) but perhaps Phil and Lynn's relationship and the 16 road games is what was broke and maybe Phil didn't want to be back. I have grown to love Phil more a little more than the Chargers, it's unhealthy to have to root for both a player on a different team and a team without my QB. This is painful. A lot have already jumped on the Herbert bandwagon and I hope he's as good or better than Rivers or Fouts but realistically that's a tall order and he could be horrible like Ryan Leaf (great Wonderlic Score horrible talent?), or so-so like Ryan Fitzpatrick (another smart player) or a Stan Humphries or Fouts or Rivers, never know. TT said today that if the Dolphins drafted Herbert TT would of drafted Tua and I could see all the same people in here that are slobbering all over Herbert now ripping him to shreds if he was on the Dolphins. Another unpopular take- you don’t owe the Chargers anything, cheer for whatever you want. No guilt required. If it comes down to Bolts vs Colts I’ll probably root for Rivers because he’s my favorite athlete and he only has a few years left. This may turn out to be more popular than you think- I am rooting hard for the Colts this year for one simple reason: Philip Rivers. To be clear, I want them to win every game that doesn't negatively impact the Chargers (which shouldn't be many or any). But in a hypothetical AFC Championship Game between the Colts and the Bolts, I'm all in for the Chargers! But in a rare case of win-win, if the Colts do win that game I will be ecstatic for Philip Rivers and pray for him to get a Super Bowl ring in the next game!
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Post by sonorajim on Apr 29, 2020 9:54:33 GMT -7
I like Phillip, I like Frank Reich and am a big fan of Quentin Nelson. I wish them well. The only teams I root for are the Chargers and whoever is playing KC, Den, LV on a given week.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 29, 2020 20:02:39 GMT -7
I like Phillip, I like Frank Reich and am a big fan of Quentin Nelson. I wish them well. The only teams I root for are the Chargers and whoever is playing KC, Den, LV on a given week. Similar view from me...... Rivers is far closer to a Super Bowl with the Colts, wish him nothing but good luck.
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Post by ChargingBolts on Apr 30, 2020 0:03:17 GMT -7
I like Phillip, I like Frank Reich and am a big fan of Quentin Nelson. I wish them well. The only teams I root for are the Chargers and whoever is playing KC, Den, LV on a given week. The difference for me is whoever is playing the Cheatriots. I'll still hate them for as long as Bellycheat is still the HC and hopefully not fear them anymore now that Tom Shady is on the Bucs and I will also root for whomever is playing the Bucs, screw Shady. I've never hated KC, Den, or LV because they never really got in our way when we had a talented enough team, it was always the Patriots or Steelers or Jets that seemed to knock us out of the playoffs.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 30, 2020 4:05:21 GMT -7
I like Phillip, I like Frank Reich and am a big fan of Quentin Nelson. I wish them well. The only teams I root for are the Chargers and whoever is playing KC, Den, LV on a given week. The difference for me is whoever is playing the Cheatriots. I'll still hate them for as long as Bellycheat is still the HC and hopefully not fear them anymore now that Tom Shady is on the Bucs and I will also root for whomever is playing the Bucs, screw Shady. I've never hated KC, Den, or LV because they never really got in our way when we had a talented enough team, it was always the Patriots or Steelers or Jets that seemed to knock us out of the playoffs. The Steelers knocked us out of the playoffs ? I think one of the greatest Chargers game I ever saw was 93-94. When we went into Pittsburgh, in Winter, and upset the Steelers. To this day, Steelers fans call it the most painful loss they have ever had. That's saying something. That's giving Bolty Bolts respect !
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Post by afboltfan on Apr 30, 2020 5:49:37 GMT -7
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 30, 2020 6:28:00 GMT -7
My biggest issue with the article is "They moved up for ILB Murray when they needed a Tackle". If we got a Tackle, he would have wrote "They needed a fast ILB". You can play that game all day long. There is no winning in that game. If you want winning, they got a ILB that was rated top 15 Overall player on many boards. Versus the 6th OT selected on the board by pick #23.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 30, 2020 6:38:14 GMT -7
This sounds more like an indictment of TT's draft strategy as opposed to a grading of the players drafted. Herbert will beat out Taylor and play, simply due to having a ton more natural talent. Yes, Taylor has the NFL experience, but I do not see where that experience will be enough to overcome the talent found in Herbert. Murray is a 1st rounder being added to an already solid defence, he will fit in seamlessly. The rest of the draft starts with loving Hill, and liking the others......Hill being their last pick (7th rd) really generates concern for picks 4,5 and 6. Time will tell, hope the entire draft goes to the HOF eventually.....
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 30, 2020 6:52:23 GMT -7
My biggest issue with the article is "They moved up for ILB Murray when they needed a Tackle". If we got a Tackle, he would have wrote "They needed a fast ILB". You can play that game all day long. There is no winning in that game. If you want winning, they got a ILB that was rated top 15 Overall player on many boards. Versus the 6th OT selected on the board by pick #23. I think the writer was criticizing the move up, not the move up to take ILB over OT. I am reading it as the writer would have stayed put, drafted an OT in the 2nd and ILB in the 3rd, or vice versa. Obviously they would not be adding the talent they got in Murray necessarily, and TT's history with 2nd and 3rd round picks isn't off the charts great. I see why TT did the move, but there is still a glaring hole at LOT.....unless Pipkins is better than we know. 
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 30, 2020 7:20:56 GMT -7
My biggest issue with the article is "They moved up for ILB Murray when they needed a Tackle". If we got a Tackle, he would have wrote "They needed a fast ILB". You can play that game all day long. There is no winning in that game. If you want winning, they got a ILB that was rated top 15 Overall player on many boards. Versus the 6th OT selected on the board by pick #23. I think the writer was criticizing the move up, not the move up to take ILB over OT. I am reading it as the writer would have stayed put, drafted an OT in the 2nd and ILB in the 3rd, or vice versa. Obviously they would not be adding the talent they got in Murray necessarily, and TT's history with 2nd and 3rd round picks isn't off the charts great. I see why TT did the move, but there is still a glaring hole at LOT.....unless Pipkins is better than we know. i they would have really been watering down the talent level by taking the 51st OT in the second, and heaven knows who at ILB in the 3rd. Blue Chip Big School Billy Murray is mucher better.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 30, 2020 7:27:30 GMT -7
I think the writer was criticizing the move up, not the move up to take ILB over OT. I am reading it as the writer would have stayed put, drafted an OT in the 2nd and ILB in the 3rd, or vice versa. Obviously they would not be adding the talent they got in Murray necessarily, and TT's history with 2nd and 3rd round picks isn't off the charts great. I see why TT did the move, but there is still a glaring hole at LOT.....unless Pipkins is better than we know. i they would have really been watering down the talent level by taking the 51st OT in the second, and heaven knows who at ILB in the 3rd. Blue Chip Big School Billy Murray is mucher better. Probably so, but the Brady example is always sitting there for the folks that believe talent can be found in every round, you just got to be good at finding it.
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