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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 29, 2020 13:15:08 GMT -7
Gotta start giving our roster players some love. Tyrod Taylor has a winning record even WITH playing for rebuilding Buffalo and Cleveland !! Glad to see your coming around. Its getting to be "Slap your face with Tyrod is not a franchise QB." REALITY TIME To "Root for my team." FANTASY TIME A Freak LOVES Fantasies.
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Post by joemcrugby on Apr 29, 2020 19:21:34 GMT -7
Quarterback coach for Andrew Luck at Stanford, Colts OC from 2013-2015 and at QB coach at Michigan under Harbaugh.
Popper notes that had Hamilton been hired before the draft, it would have tipped his hand regarding the #6 pick.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 29, 2020 19:52:07 GMT -7
TT tells McAfee that Tua would have been a Charger if Miami took Herbert... There you go. Simmons likely further down TT's board than ours. They were laser locked in at QB. Leadpipe Lock of the Year. Why were they laser locked in at QB ?
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 29, 2020 19:55:31 GMT -7
Gotta start giving our roster players some love. Tyrod Taylor has a winning record even WITH playing for rebuilding Buffalo and Cleveland !! winning record, and on rebuilding teams no less you say.......yet TT was " laser locked in at QB" and drafted Herbert for a reason. Ummmm, wonder what that reason was?
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 30, 2020 3:23:22 GMT -7
Quarterback coach for Andrew Luck at Stanford, Colts OC from 2013-2015 and at QB coach at Michigan under Harbaugh. Popper notes that had Hamilton been hired before the draft, it would have tipped his hand regarding the #6 pick. Whoa. You get Nominated for POTD for posting that. The Chargers WIN Idea of the Day for hiring Hamilton !!!!!!!!!! He is an excellent QB coach. More important than working under Harbaugh, he worked under the great offensive college coach David Shaw !!!! Hamilton could be our future OC, if Lynn wants to sacrifice yet another OC.........
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 30, 2020 3:58:05 GMT -7
Gotta start giving our roster players some love. Tyrod Taylor has a winning record even WITH playing for rebuilding Buffalo and Cleveland !! winning record, and on rebuilding teams no less you say.......yet TT was " laser locked in at QB" and drafted Herbert for a reason. Ummmm, wonder what that reason was? Not only was TT going Herbert Tua, he just said any of the top 3 that were left over he was drafting. Didn't care who they were !! Oh, I'm LMAO !!! You should actually be proud of him that he didn't move up to get one !! He let the top 3 QB's fall to him ! That allowed him to move up for their Murray ! I have given you reason after reason for months on Tyrod Taylor. You want to ask what the reasons are ?!?!?! You are asking a TON for me to come up with new material after I have given 100 reasons over months. Sheesh !!!!! However, I can do what no one else can, so lets give it a shot. Shall we ? (Before I begin, was TT DROOLING over that low cost Rookie QB 5th year option contract ? Yes. Yes he was. As a matter of fact. Still is. I can see it in his gleaming eyeballs.) You know how you are a fan of "Let Herbert sit a year or more behind Taylor and learn." ? Typical Franchise QB rookie training talky talk. I'll save the fact that its outdated for another post. Tyrod Taylor isn't "Let him bounce around the damn NFL for 8 years, because he is suddenly going to become a Franchise QB." Teams knew what he was sitting lonely at home with no phone calls. Is that what happens to franchise QB's ? No. No it isn't.The Chargers knew what they were getting in him with that LOW cost contract. A back up. He's a back up. Sure we can say he's one of the best back up's in the NFL. But a back up is a back up because they are a back up. Somebody on the board posted he reminded them of Alex Smith. That was a great comparison. Alex Smith is a game MANAGER, not the star flash I alone will win Superbowls for you franchise QB. Alex Smith will win you some games, but he will NEVER win you a SB. THAT's what KC figured out. THAT's what I and the Chargers already knew with Taylor. And Mahomes took over from there. React. Because you want to. Signed, Nostradamus Freak. Seer of all.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 30, 2020 7:11:48 GMT -7
winning record, and on rebuilding teams no less you say.......yet TT was " laser locked in at QB" and drafted Herbert for a reason. Ummmm, wonder what that reason was? Not only was TT going Herbert Tua, he just said any of the top 3 that were left over he was drafting. Didn't care who they were !! Oh, I'm LMAO !!! You should actually be proud of him that he didn't move up to get one !! He let the top 3 QB's fall to him ! That allowed him to move up for their Murray ! I have given you reason after reason for months on Tyrod Taylor. You want to ask what the reasons are ?!?!?! You are asking a TON for me to come up with new material after I have given 100 reasons over months. Sheesh !!!!! However, I can do what no one else can, so lets give it a shot. Shall we ? (Before I begin, was TT DROOLING over that low cost Rookie QB 5th year option contract ? Yes. Yes he was. As a matter of fact. Still is. I can see it in his gleaming eyeballs.) You know how you are a fan of "Let Herbert sit a year or more behind Taylor and learn." ? Typical Franchise QB rookie training talky talk. I'll save the fact that its outdated for another post. Tyrod Taylor isn't "Let him bounce around the damn NFL for 8 years, because he is suddenly going to become a Franchise QB." Teams knew what he was sitting lonely at home with no phone calls. Is that what happens to franchise QB's ? No. No it isn't.The Chargers knew what they were getting in him with that LOW cost contract. A back up. He's a back up. Sure we can say he's one of the best back up's in the NFL. But a back up is a back up because they are a back up. Somebody on the board posted he reminded them of Alex Smith. That was a great comparison. Alex Smith is a game MANAGER, not the star flash I alone will win Superbowls for you franchise QB. Alex Smith will win you some games, but he will NEVER win you a SB. THAT's what KC figured out. THAT's what I and the Chargers already knew with Taylor. And Mahomes took over from there. React. Because you want to. Signed, Nostradamus Freak. Seer of all. TT did not say 'he didn't care which QB they drafted'......and if he had said that, and actually believes that, he needs to be fired today. Another one of your false statements......I am not a fan of sitting Herbert for a year. In fact, I believe and hope Herbert is the starter after a few short weeks in TC, as I think will indicate just how big of a talent gap there is between Herbert and Taylor. Herbert will make mistakes due to inexperience, Taylor will make them due to having less talent......so accept that mistakes are coming and get Herbert that experience.
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 30, 2020 7:25:14 GMT -7
Not only was TT going Herbert Tua, he just said any of the top 3 that were left over he was drafting. Didn't care who they were !! Oh, I'm LMAO !!! You should actually be proud of him that he didn't move up to get one !! He let the top 3 QB's fall to him ! That allowed him to move up for their Murray ! I have given you reason after reason for months on Tyrod Taylor. You want to ask what the reasons are ?!?!?! You are asking a TON for me to come up with new material after I have given 100 reasons over months. Sheesh !!!!! However, I can do what no one else can, so lets give it a shot. Shall we ? (Before I begin, was TT DROOLING over that low cost Rookie QB 5th year option contract ? Yes. Yes he was. As a matter of fact. Still is. I can see it in his gleaming eyeballs.) You know how you are a fan of "Let Herbert sit a year or more behind Taylor and learn." ? Typical Franchise QB rookie training talky talk. I'll save the fact that its outdated for another post. Tyrod Taylor isn't "Let him bounce around the damn NFL for 8 years, because he is suddenly going to become a Franchise QB." Teams knew what he was sitting lonely at home with no phone calls. Is that what happens to franchise QB's ? No. No it isn't.The Chargers knew what they were getting in him with that LOW cost contract. A back up. He's a back up. Sure we can say he's one of the best back up's in the NFL. But a back up is a back up because they are a back up. Somebody on the board posted he reminded them of Alex Smith. That was a great comparison. Alex Smith is a game MANAGER, not the star flash I alone will win Superbowls for you franchise QB. Alex Smith will win you some games, but he will NEVER win you a SB. THAT's what KC figured out. THAT's what I and the Chargers already knew with Taylor. And Mahomes took over from there. React. Because you want to. Signed, Nostradamus Freak. Seer of all. TT did not say 'he didn't care which QB they drafted'......and if he had said that, and actually believes that, he needs to be fired today. Another one of your false statements......I am not a fan of sitting Herbert for a year. In fact, I believe and hope Herbert is the starter after a few short weeks in TC, as I think will indicate just how big of a talent gap there is between Herbert and Taylor. Herbert will make mistakes due to inexperience, Taylor will make them due to having less talent......so accept that mistakes are coming and get Herbert that experience. Can I assume you are not nominating my post for the day ?
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Post by chargerfreak on Apr 30, 2020 7:29:24 GMT -7
Not only was TT going Herbert Tua, he just said any of the top 3 that were left over he was drafting. Didn't care who they were !! Oh, I'm LMAO !!! You should actually be proud of him that he didn't move up to get one !! He let the top 3 QB's fall to him ! That allowed him to move up for their Murray ! I have given you reason after reason for months on Tyrod Taylor. You want to ask what the reasons are ?!?!?! You are asking a TON for me to come up with new material after I have given 100 reasons over months. Sheesh !!!!! However, I can do what no one else can, so lets give it a shot. Shall we ? (Before I begin, was TT DROOLING over that low cost Rookie QB 5th year option contract ? Yes. Yes he was. As a matter of fact. Still is. I can see it in his gleaming eyeballs.) You know how you are a fan of "Let Herbert sit a year or more behind Taylor and learn." ? Typical Franchise QB rookie training talky talk. I'll save the fact that its outdated for another post. Tyrod Taylor isn't "Let him bounce around the damn NFL for 8 years, because he is suddenly going to become a Franchise QB." Teams knew what he was sitting lonely at home with no phone calls. Is that what happens to franchise QB's ? No. No it isn't.The Chargers knew what they were getting in him with that LOW cost contract. A back up. He's a back up. Sure we can say he's one of the best back up's in the NFL. But a back up is a back up because they are a back up. Somebody on the board posted he reminded them of Alex Smith. That was a great comparison. Alex Smith is a game MANAGER, not the star flash I alone will win Superbowls for you franchise QB. Alex Smith will win you some games, but he will NEVER win you a SB. THAT's what KC figured out. THAT's what I and the Chargers already knew with Taylor. And Mahomes took over from there. React. Because you want to. Signed, Nostradamus Freak. Seer of all. Another one of your false statements......I am not a fan of sitting Herbert for a year. In fact, I believe and hope Herbert is the starter after a few short weeks in TC, as I think will indicate just how big of a talent gap there is between Herbert and Taylor. Herbert will make mistakes due to inexperience, Taylor will make them due to having less talent......so accept that mistakes are coming and get Herbert that experience. He did say whichever of the 3 survived to pick #6, he was sitting, waiting, and drafting them. It's the same thing pal. I guess you are going to have to fire him. I mean, you don't want to fire him for destroying Simmons face. You want to fire him for laser locking QB at #6.Genius is a lonely place.
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 30, 2020 7:38:14 GMT -7
TT did not say 'he didn't care which QB they drafted'......and if he had said that, and actually believes that, he needs to be fired today. Another one of your false statements......I am not a fan of sitting Herbert for a year. In fact, I believe and hope Herbert is the starter after a few short weeks in TC, as I think will indicate just how big of a talent gap there is between Herbert and Taylor. Herbert will make mistakes due to inexperience, Taylor will make them due to having less talent......so accept that mistakes are coming and get Herbert that experience. He did say whichever of the 3 survived to pick #6, he was sitting, waiting, and drafting them. It's the same thing pal. I guess you are going to have to fire him. I mean, you don't want to fire him for destroying Simmons face. You want to fire him for laser locking QB at #6.Genius is a lonely place. It is not the same thing, as clearly Burrow would be the preferred choice. It is clear that when Miami went on the clock, TT would have his choice of QB that remained between Tua and Herbert. Plenty of time before we know how this plays out.....hoping Herbert is a franchise QB.
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Post by ohioboltfan on Apr 30, 2020 8:36:18 GMT -7
Am I the only one who thinks Herbert should NOT start this year and enjoy a season of soaking up coaching, mentorship and improving all those flaws we heard about pre-draft? The strategy of a QB getting a first year to learn and develop is the best rationale I have for getting Herbert at pick six over an immediate contributor.
Of course, if the QBs ahead of him on the depth chart get injured and he's pressed into service that's a necessity unrelated to strategy.
The other scenario where Herbert could/should start is in the second half of the season IF we've lost a ton of the early games. I truly don't see this happening. It could, but I think the Chargers are a competitive team even with Tyrod as our starting QB. I think we'll win more games than we lose, and our losses will be close games- as always!
So while injuries or a losing season could happen, I think Herbert should not take the reins just yet and forego the added pressure of playing and winning.
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Post by afboltfan on Apr 30, 2020 8:52:34 GMT -7
I think Herbert should sit a year too, mostly because 2020 is cursed. See how TT performs...
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Post by frozendisc on Apr 30, 2020 8:54:09 GMT -7
Am I the only one who thinks Herbert should NOT start this year and enjoy a season of soaking up coaching, mentorship and improving all those flaws we heard about pre-draft? The strategy of a QB getting a first year to learn and develop is the best rationale I have for getting Herbert at pick six over an immediate contributor. Of course, if the QBs ahead of him on the depth chart get injured and he's pressed into service that's a necessity unrelated to strategy. The other scenario where Herbert could/should start is in the second half of the season IF we've lost a ton of the early games. I truly don't see this happening. It could, but I think the Chargers are a competitive team even with Tyrod as our starting QB. I think we'll win more games than we lose, and our losses will be close games- as always! So while injuries or a losing season could happen, I think Herbert should not take the reins just yet and forego the added pressure of playing and winning. Players want to play. Talent plays..... Let them compete in TC, it should not be a very tough decision to who should be starting.
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Post by sonorajim on Apr 30, 2020 9:48:30 GMT -7
Am I the only one who thinks Herbert should NOT start this year and enjoy a season of soaking up coaching, mentorship and improving all those flaws we heard about pre-draft? The strategy of a QB getting a first year to learn and develop is the best rationale I have for getting Herbert at pick six over an immediate contributor. Of course, if the QBs ahead of him on the depth chart get injured and he's pressed into service that's a necessity unrelated to strategy. The other scenario where Herbert could/should start is in the second half of the season IF we've lost a ton of the early games. I truly don't see this happening. It could, but I think the Chargers are a competitive team even with Tyrod as our starting QB. I think we'll win more games than we lose, and our losses will be close games- as always! So while injuries or a losing season could happen, I think Herbert should not take the reins just yet and forego the added pressure of playing and winning. Sit/start, gimme a break. I can see it either way. Let's see what Herbert looks like practicing with the Chargers, at least. I would like to see LAC prepping & practicing like all our QBs are starters, see who stands out. Open competition for wk 1 starting QB. Tyrod should win the job based on decent talent with elevated level of experience but let's not just gift wrap the starting position.
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Post by lazylightning on Apr 30, 2020 9:51:17 GMT -7
Am I the only one who thinks Herbert should NOT start this year and enjoy a season of soaking up coaching, mentorship and improving all those flaws we heard about pre-draft? The strategy of a QB getting a first year to learn and develop is the best rationale I have for getting Herbert at pick six over an immediate contributor. Of course, if the QBs ahead of him on the depth chart get injured and he's pressed into service that's a necessity unrelated to strategy. The other scenario where Herbert could/should start is in the second half of the season IF we've lost a ton of the early games. I truly don't see this happening. It could, but I think the Chargers are a competitive team even with Tyrod as our starting QB. I think we'll win more games than we lose, and our losses will be close games- as always! So while injuries or a losing season could happen, I think Herbert should not take the reins just yet and forego the added pressure of playing and winning. I was wrong about drafting Herbert so I will probably be wrong on starting him too. I think Tyrod will be the starter on game one. Herbert may see some mop up action late in a game or be included in designed plays with two QBs on the field. Now if the season is lost, give Herbert the starting job.
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