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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 16, 2020 3:12:55 GMT -7
The way I see it now it could fall 2 ways If Pipkins is able to give "league average" play at LT I can see 11-5 , 4-2 in the division. Defense should be top 3 , I expect 60/40 run to pass. If Pipkins plays like last year 6-10 Training camp and if there are any injuries can change things a lot but that's who I see it right now. Fair enough but this isn't last year.
3 of 5 OL starters are PB vets , new OL coach, scheme, technique emphasis.
The C-RG-RT positions should manage their business nicely. LG play should be more respectable. Feeney should not experience as many brain farts under Campen's tent.
RB-FB-TE blocking will be specific.
Pipkins got 3 starts, played in 13 games in 2019. He's not a small school rookie any longer.
Basically a lock that OL play will be better overall and that Pipkins will improve.
...or we might sign Peters ...or Storm will blow us away....or?
The OL will be better. How much ?  Did you miss me jim ? Tell the class the truth now. You and woodeye are the Oline watcher outers...........Is there anything that can improve Feeney ? Campen is a good coach. Is this enough ?
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 16, 2020 7:00:04 GMT -7
I get your point. I just don't agree with it. I just do not think a GM is going to consider a players desire to leave as a reason. Every player wants a ring. But the desire to play is greater. It becomes a huge problem when the player is a top talent......as they all talk between themselves plenty. So the GM is wise to ask: is this player's viewpoint correct? Not being able to retain your top talent is going to impact the perspective on the coaching staff, and players know this quite well. Players are just a commodity, an asset to be used and then released. Coaches are held in even less regard..... Bolded: thus my point. they are tools. if the tool is vital you do what you can to keep it, but you do not do so at the expense of the rest of the tool box. Underlined: If you reread my earlier posts I said the players concern is heard, but it carries little weight. Problem? yes, But not a driver. The locker room is the coaches territory. You cannot get caught up in emotions when you are dealing with $130 Mill budget and holes to fill.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 16, 2020 9:07:19 GMT -7
I get your point. I just don't agree with it. I just do not think a GM is going to consider a players desire to leave as a reason. Every player wants a ring. But the desire to play is greater. You do not agree that a player that is at the end of his contract, or final year, and expresses the belief 'this club is going nowhere' is not a problem? It becomes a huge problem when the player is a top talent......as they all talk between themselves plenty. So the GM is wise to ask: is this player's viewpoint correct? Not being able to retain your top talent is going to impact the perspective on the coaching staff, and players know this quite well. Players are just a commodity, an asset to be used and then released. Coaches are held in even less regard..... that simply does not apply to all players. The creme at the top set the tone. If Patrick Mahomes wanted the owners to sit in their box seats and wear chicken feathers, you can bet they would buy the chickens.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 16, 2020 9:09:06 GMT -7
You do not agree that a player that is at the end of his contract, or final year, and expresses the belief 'this club is going nowhere' is not a problem? It becomes a huge problem when the player is a top talent......as they all talk between themselves plenty. So the GM is wise to ask: is this player's viewpoint correct? Not being able to retain your top talent is going to impact the perspective on the coaching staff, and players know this quite well. Players are just a commodity, an asset to be used and then released. Coaches are held in even less regard..... Bolded: thus my point. they are tools. if the tool is vital you do what you can to keep it, but you do not do so at the expense of the rest of the tool box. Underlined: If you reread my earlier posts I said the players concern is heard, but it carries little weight. Problem? yes, But not a driver. The locker room is the coaches territory. You cannot get caught up in emotions when you are dealing with $130 Mill budget and holes to fill. Does that apply to the Mahomes types ? No. No it doesn't.
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Post by afboltfan on Jun 16, 2020 9:46:42 GMT -7
Bolded: thus my point. they are tools. if the tool is vital you do what you can to keep it, but you do not do so at the expense of the rest of the tool box. Underlined: If you reread my earlier posts I said the players concern is heard, but it carries little weight. Problem? yes, But not a driver. The locker room is the coaches territory. You cannot get caught up in emotions when you are dealing with $130 Mill budget and holes to fill.Does that apply to the Mahomes types ? No. No it doesn't. I would say Mahomes is the only exception in the entire league... Even Brady was let go.
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Post by chargerfreak on Jun 16, 2020 10:03:50 GMT -7
Does that apply to the Mahomes types ? No. No it doesn't. I would say Mahomes is the only exception in the entire league... Even Brady was let go. The league MVP was 14-2 Lamar Jackson. Keep asking I have lots of names..........................
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Post by eurobolt on Jun 16, 2020 10:43:42 GMT -7
Gus needs to produce top 3-5 def for us to have winning season.
However as I have stated multiple time I have no faith in Lynn and hus football philosophy so i think 5-11 again as best case scenario and Herbert playing sooner than we all think.
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Post by afboltfan on Jun 16, 2020 10:54:38 GMT -7
I would say Mahomes is the only exception in the entire league... Even Brady was let go. The league MVP was 14-2 Lamar Jackson. Keep asking I have lots of names.......................... Keep going... I wouldn't let Lamar Jackson dictate who and how I sign my players. He needs to get to a Superbowl first.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 16, 2020 10:56:19 GMT -7
Fair enough but this isn't last year.
3 of 5 OL starters are PB vets , new OL coach, scheme, technique emphasis.
The C-RG-RT positions should manage their business nicely. LG play should be more respectable. Feeney should not experience as many brain farts under Campen's tent.
RB-FB-TE blocking will be specific.
Pipkins got 3 starts, played in 13 games in 2019. He's not a small school rookie any longer.
Basically a lock that OL play will be better overall and that Pipkins will improve.
...or we might sign Peters ...or Storm will blow us away....or?
The OL will be better. How much ? Every year is the same thing.....'hoping' the OL improves enough. This year is nothing different...... Change is not possible - no matter how many OL Pro Bowl vets and low good the OL coach is.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 16, 2020 11:18:38 GMT -7
Fair enough but this isn't last year.
3 of 5 OL starters are PB vets , new OL coach, scheme, technique emphasis.
The C-RG-RT positions should manage their business nicely. LG play should be more respectable. Feeney should not experience as many brain farts under Campen's tent.
RB-FB-TE blocking will be specific.
Pipkins got 3 starts, played in 13 games in 2019. He's not a small school rookie any longer.
Basically a lock that OL play will be better overall and that Pipkins will improve.
...or we might sign Peters ...or Storm will blow us away....or?
The OL will be better. How much ? Tell the class the truth now. You and woodeye are the Oline watcher outers...........Is there anything that can improve Feeney ? Campen is a good coach. Is this enough ? Yes.
Campen will help. Bulaga, Turner and healthy Pouncey will help. Feeney can be improved. Physically and level of desire are good, he needs to be more consistent with his reads & technique.
More zone may work for him.
Enough is a moving target. Enough to be better than 2019 as a unit? Absolutely. Enough to make a successful postseason run? Not by themselves. They will need a lot of help from a QB, Pep Hamilton , Steichen and the rest of the offense.
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Post by jwr10x on Jun 16, 2020 11:25:38 GMT -7
The way I see it now it could fall 2 ways If Pipkins is able to give "league average" play at LT I can see 11-5 , 4-2 in the division. Defense should be top 3 , I expect 60/40 run to pass. If Pipkins plays like last year 6-10 Training camp and if there are any injuries can change things a lot but that's who I see it right now. Fair enough but this isn't last year.
3 of 5 OL starters are PB vets , new OL coach, scheme, technique emphasis.
The C-RG-RT positions should manage their business nicely. LG play should be more respectable. Feeney should not experience as many brain farts under Campen's tent.
RB-FB-TE blocking will be specific.
Pipkins got 3 starts, played in 13 games in 2019. He's not a small school rookie any longer.
Basically a lock that OL play will be better overall and that Pipkins will improve.
...or we might sign Peters ...or Storm will blow us away....or?
The OL will be better. How much ? Peters may not be an option after Brandon Brooks just tore his achilles and the Eagles are looking at bringing him back www.profootballrumors.com/2020/06/eagles-to-replace-brandon-brooks-internally
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 16, 2020 12:16:29 GMT -7
Bolded: thus my point. they are tools. if the tool is vital you do what you can to keep it, but you do not do so at the expense of the rest of the tool box. Underlined: If you reread my earlier posts I said the players concern is heard, but it carries little weight. Problem? yes, But not a driver. The locker room is the coaches territory. You cannot get caught up in emotions when you are dealing with $130 Mill budget and holes to fill.Does that apply to the Mahomes types ? No. No it doesn't. sure it does. QB is paid to play, not determine who else is in the tool box. Nor does it benefit him to throw the rest of the team under the bus. use em up, then throw them away. at some point even mahommes will be.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 16, 2020 12:33:31 GMT -7
I would say Mahomes is the only exception in the entire league... Even Brady was let go. The league MVP was 14-2 Lamar Jackson. Keep asking I have lots of names.......................... Jackson has a ways to go before he is at that level. I am not making comparisons at this point, but I remember when RGIII was the future of NFL quarterbacking. Same goes with Kaep. We’ll see how Jackson develops as a pocket passer as defenses continue to force him to beat them with his arm and containing him to the pocket. Unlike Mahomes, Jackson has not displayed consistent accuracy nor the ability to beat you from the pocket. |
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 16, 2020 17:27:47 GMT -7
And speaking of topical: is there a worse game or photo for them to use in this tweet?
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Post by afboltfan on Jun 16, 2020 19:47:12 GMT -7
That's fuel for Derwin James right there!
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