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Post by thannah40 on Jun 12, 2020 16:26:46 GMT -7
This team can easily go 0-16 this year, easily. We MAY get one divisional win vs the Raiders. After that? Miami maybe? Jets? Are we looking at a TWO or THREE WIN team?
I’d be interested to hear what other matchups on this years schedule look favorable for the Bolts. I’ve been a fan for 40+ years and I’ve never dreaded going into a season like I am this year.
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 12, 2020 20:11:35 GMT -7
And I thought Disc was the most pessimistic.
The Chargers could very well go 5-1 in the division.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 13, 2020 5:48:21 GMT -7
And I thought Disc was the most pessimistic. The Chargers could very well go 5-1 in the division. Or they could go 0-6 again...... Chiefs will be the bar setter for the AFCW.....then it would not shock me to see the Raiders winning far more than losing. The Broncos seem like a middle of the pack type, so 8-8, give or take a game either way. Bolts have a huge transition going on, and at the most critical of positions. Plenty of talent on the roster, but mediocre coaching and that transition make me think 5, 6 maybe even 7 wins...... I have my 'optimist' hat on this morning........
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Post by ohioboltfan on Jun 13, 2020 7:19:52 GMT -7
This team can easily go 0-16 this year, easily. We MAY get one divisional win vs the Raiders. After that? Miami maybe? Jets? Are we looking at a TWO or THREE WIN team? I’d be interested to hear what other matchups on this years schedule look favorable for the Bolts. I’ve been a fan for 40+ years and I’ve never dreaded going into a season like I am this year. Thanks thannah40 for the new thread and discussion in these boring boring weeks without camp or any other football news. It's interesting how Charger fans who love their team can have such varied views of the same team! Because I completely disagree with your belief that the team could easily go 0-16. In fact, I can easily see us going 10-6. Even considering the "any given Sunday" either NFL team could win despite their records or lofty/bottom status, I think our schedule has several layup games- Bengals, Panthers, Jets, Dolphins, Jaguars- and several close but winnable games- Buccaneers, Bills, Patriots, Falcons- and only one non-division game where the Bolts will CLEARLY be underdogs- at Saints. And all six division games will be toss ups, even the Chiefs who we've played tough the past few years. Say we split the division (in any combination) and go 3-3 there. Let's say we go 4-1 in the games we should be favorites (like an early loss or an east coast loss). If go 2-3 against the 'tougher' teams that still gives us a winning record of 9-7. And with a lucky break getting us an extra win somewhere, that's a realistic 10-6 to me! I've posted before how several teams on our schedule will have a "new" QB starting for them- either a rookie or younger QB, or a new veteran via free agency. Burrow, Bridgewater, Darnold, Tua, Minshew, BRADY, Allen, Stidham, Lock- some up and coming QBs, some rookies, one GOAT- all will be still learning because of their youth or new teams. I think that's a bit of an advantage for us. So it's hard for me to realistically visualize double-digit losses to that group, much less 0-16.
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 13, 2020 10:50:24 GMT -7
It's an unusual season, done deal. Just assuming that LAC's unusual is no worse than anyone else's, We Bad, in a strong defensive way. A lot of talent there. Offense & STs ain't too shabby either. Chargers success or lack thereof depends largely on Lynn, Steichen, Bradley, Campen, Hamilton, etc, etc. Leadership will be the ballgame. This is Lynn's season for better or worse. I'm on the fence but want to believe, So.... We'll go 10-6 or better. "Defense Wins Championships".
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Post by lazylightning on Jun 13, 2020 13:48:35 GMT -7
And I thought Disc was the most pessimistic. The Chargers could very well go 5-1 in the division. My guess is the bolts go 7-3 on the season. How is that for pessimistic.
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Post by thannah40 on Jun 13, 2020 19:34:12 GMT -7
I like the optimism, but I’m just looking at each side of the ball and while we will stack up on defense every week our offense wont.
Look, we have a Pro Bowl WR and another potential at that spot IF we weren’t in transition at QB.
Good riddance with letting Gordon go (selfish bum), but his play will be filled by the flashy (and I love him) Eckeler and a rookie.
Rookie RB’s have had success, so have rookie QB’s and back up QB’s (Tyrod). But not behind a patchwork O line like we are starting the season with. TT has been horrible at addressing the line over the years and it’s going to hurt the growth of the new QB.
I see major rebuilding and problems with these areas on offense where all the teams we play next year don’t. Not that they aren’t dealing with one or two of these ares, but all three? AND the fact that we don’t have any home support at all?
Defense? No concerns and I’m EXCITED to watch the rook LB. But offensively, we won’t keep up.
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Post by afboltfan on Jun 14, 2020 4:53:07 GMT -7
I think we'll just miss the playoffs but def do better than last year... Tyrod is not a bad QB but Steidham is not a proven OC, so we'll see how it goes. I def feel better with Pep Hamilton on the coaching team.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 14, 2020 6:04:48 GMT -7
I think we'll just miss the playoffs but def do better than last year... Tyrod is not a bad QB but Steidham is not a proven OC, so we'll see how it goes. I def feel better with Pep Hamilton on the coaching team. Taylor is an average QB on his best day, so essentially he is a back up QB that is apparently the starter, in the off season. Steichen is unproven as an OC as you mention, meaning Lynn will have far too much influence. Lynn is predictable and lacks creativity. Hamilton will develop Herbert into the starter over Taylor.....should not take too much effort. Gus has the players to have a top 5 defence. ST's is a question mark, as always...... The offence will be about the OL play..... 4 to 6 wins......
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 14, 2020 6:52:52 GMT -7
I think we'll just miss the playoffs but def do better than last year... Tyrod is not a bad QB but Steidham is not a proven OC, so we'll see how it goes. I def feel better with Pep Hamilton on the coaching team. Taylor is an average QB on his best day, so essentially he is a back up QB that is apparently the starter, in the off season. Steichen is unproven as an OC as you mention, meaning Lynn will have far too much influence. Lynn is predictable and lacks creativity. Hamilton will develop Herbert into the starter over Taylor.....should not take too much effort. Gus has the players to have a top 5 defence. ST's is a question mark, as always...... The offence will be about the OL play..... 4 to 6 wins...... you are back in first place. Sorry Thannah. I liked your "maybe even 7 wins......" better. At least there was a glimmer.
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Post by frozendisc on Jun 14, 2020 7:17:25 GMT -7
Taylor is an average QB on his best day, so essentially he is a back up QB that is apparently the starter, in the off season. Steichen is unproven as an OC as you mention, meaning Lynn will have far too much influence. Lynn is predictable and lacks creativity. Hamilton will develop Herbert into the starter over Taylor.....should not take too much effort. Gus has the players to have a top 5 defence. ST's is a question mark, as always...... The offence will be about the OL play..... 4 to 6 wins...... you are back in first place. Sorry Thannah. I liked your "maybe even 7 wins......" better. At least there was a glimmer. Clubs with plenty of question marks rarely win......doesn't mean it cannot happen, just means it would be wise to not bet too much, eh? The defence will be, should be, very good.....after that the question marks start up.
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Post by totallybolted on Jun 14, 2020 7:52:45 GMT -7
you are back in first place. Sorry Thannah. I liked your "maybe even 7 wins......" better. At least there was a glimmer. Clubs with plenty of question marks rarely win......doesn't mean it cannot happen, just means it would be wise to not bet too much, eh? The defence will be, should be, very good.....after that the question marks start up. I'll probably bet a little more. The questions exist for all teams as you say. its the degree and the knowledge to minimize it that make the difference. I think the bolts are better than many give credit for. We'll see. I just hope the 'see" part actually happens. July is too far away already
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Post by sonorajim on Jun 14, 2020 12:12:13 GMT -7
In 2019 Tampa, NO, KC, NE & Atl were better than avg on offense, the rest of our 2020 opponents were mediocre to lousy. Cin, NYJ and Den were bottom feeders. The defenses we'll face- NE, Buf, KC, Den were good - very good. The rest were @ avg to poor. Mia, TB & Car were bottom feeders.
Everybody changes. How much, where we're just guessing.
In the AFCW LV & Den will need to improve a lot to match up with our D. We'll need to be lucky to get a split with KC.
I'm assuming that we'll have a top 5 scoring defense, @ avg ranked scoring offense. If so, we should be in the 10+ W area.
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Post by joemcrugby on Jun 14, 2020 16:04:32 GMT -7
With the defense as it stands (lord knows how it can change with the annual Chargers injury pandemic), anything less than 10 wins will be a major disappointment in my book & heads will roll in the coaching staff.
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Post by jwr10x on Jun 14, 2020 16:14:17 GMT -7
The way I see it now it could fall 2 ways
If Pipkins is able to give "league average" play at LT I can see 11-5 , 4-2 in the division. Defense should be top 3 , I expect 60/40 run to pass.
If Pipkins plays like last year 6-10
Training camp and if there are any injuries can change things a lot but that's who I see it right now.
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