|
|
Post by lazylightning on Sept 26, 2022 11:30:51 GMT -7
My take is beat Houston and we are back on track. They are not very good and its a revenge game for us. We can be .500 with a win. 1-3 with a loss........................... This team needs to do some serious soul searching from Staley down, Texans is a pretty good team to get that mojo back on. But the Jags were supposed to be that WIN as well. We are also a tired TE Everett away from being 2-1... That's why you play the games. I think there were some folks (Ohio perhaps) saying that the Jags would be a tough outing. Let's hope the team has more backbone than the fan base. It is a long season. I am not ready to give up on it after game 3. Beat the Texans and go on from there.
|
|
|
|
Post by afboltfan on Sept 26, 2022 11:54:03 GMT -7
We are a dropped TD from Waller in being 0-3... This team needs to do some serious soul searching from Staley down, Texans is a pretty good team to get that mojo back on. But the Jags were supposed to be that WIN as well. We are also a tired TE Everett away from being 2-1... That's why you play the games. I think there were some folks (Ohio perhaps) saying that the Jags would be a tough outing. Let's hope the team has more backbone than the fan base. It is a long season. I am not ready to give up on it after game 3.Beat the Texans and go on from there. I don't think any of us truly are either, but this is very familiar territory that we need to avoid. Starts with the Texans next week for sure...
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Sept 26, 2022 13:07:45 GMT -7
The injuries are not an excuse, rather a reality. The true reality is the talent beyond the starters is not great, and with that many reserves playing......need I say more. I do think a failing in your 'calm fan' is the belief that the Jags are a 'lesser' club......they are a talented club that is on the upswing. In the NFL, no game is an easy win, and with the injuries, the Chargers will be quite challenged to win each week, regardless of opponent. It isn't coaching, it is lack of talent......No its coaching... It is so obviously coaching I'm appalled at your lack of clarity. 45 pass attempts from an injured Herbert!? 4 rushing attempts from Ekeler!? 5! rushing attempts for Sony Michel? Give me a break with this nonsense goalie... Coaching is a HUGE factor. They have a disaster of an oline out on the field.....the RB's have just been spectacular this season, the WR's have at least be decent to good, and your best player, even injured, is Herbert. Yea, expect a bunch of passing...... I told you guys, losing linsley was a huge loss.
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Sept 26, 2022 13:14:01 GMT -7
We are also a tired TE Everett away from being 2-1... That's why you play the games. I think there were some folks (Ohio perhaps) saying that the Jags would be a tough outing. Let's hope the team has more backbone than the fan base. It is a long season. I am not ready to give up on it after game 3.Beat the Texans and go on from there. I don't think any of us truly are either, but this is very familiar territory that we need to avoid. Starts with the Texans next week for sure... I will give you some belief in your 'it is the coaching' blame game, as I think Staley and staff need to sit back and be realistic in the plan for the Texans. It does nobody any good to ask a player to do something he is not able to do....in fact it is foolish. Look at the capabilities of the players expected to be playing, and build realistic game plans. If there are no realistic approaches, go full on crazy.....throw the book out the window, and call whatever makes the players happy. Trick plays on offence, wild blitz packages on defence.....just be reckless!
|
|
|
|
Post by afboltfan on Sept 26, 2022 13:31:20 GMT -7
No its coaching... It is so obviously coaching I'm appalled at your lack of clarity. 45 pass attempts from an injured Herbert!? 4 rushing attempts from Ekeler!? 5! rushing attempts for Sony Michel? Give me a break with this nonsense goalie... Coaching is a HUGE factor. They have a disaster of an oline out on the field.....the RB's have just been spectacular this season, the WR's have at least be decent to good, and your best player, even injured, is Herbert. Yea, expect a bunch of passing...... I told you guys, losing linsley was a huge loss. They are ALL NFL caliber players, they were all drafted (mostly). Ekeler was undrafted and look at him... Talent is a lame excuse to give a pass to poor coaching, game planning, and playcalling. The players would not be here or make the final roster if they were not talented, you should pick another hill to die on.
|
|
|
|
Post by afboltfan on Sept 26, 2022 13:33:33 GMT -7
I don't think any of us truly are either, but this is very familiar territory that we need to avoid. Starts with the Texans next week for sure... I will give you some belief in your 'it is the coaching' blame game, as I think Staley and staff need to sit back and be realistic in the plan for the Texans. It does nobody any good to ask a player to do something he is not able to do....in fact it is foolish. Look at the capabilities of the players expected to be playing, and build realistic game plans. If there are no realistic approaches, go full on crazy.....throw the book out the window, and call whatever makes the players happy. Trick plays on offence, wild blitz packages on defence.....just be reckless! I agree with you but... If you told Staley or Lombardi that one of their backups could not do something a starter could would they agree with you? Next man up... So yes I think you are correct about adjusting the gameplan.
|
|
|
|
Post by sonorajim on Sept 26, 2022 13:41:09 GMT -7
The Chargers will play the damned season.I'm not happy with Jax game.
I'm still a Chargers fan. I'll have a stronger opinion later. Let's see what the W - Ls look like at the bye.
|
|
|
|
Post by moekid on Sept 26, 2022 13:45:04 GMT -7
They have a disaster of an oline out on the field.....the RB's have just been spectacular this season, the WR's have at least be decent to good, and your best player, even injured, is Herbert. Yea, expect a bunch of passing...... I told you guys, losing linsley was a huge loss. They are ALL NFL caliber players, they were all drafted (mostly). Ekeler was undrafted and look at him... Talent is a lame excuse to give a pass to poor coaching, game planning, and playcalling. The players would not be here or make the final roster if they were not talented, you should pick another hill to die on. Yep they had all off season and training camp to build a 53 man roster capable of playing in the NFL. When I said the team looked like shit in the pre season everyone said don’t worry moekid these guys won’t be playing on Sunday. But the point missed was that our bench guys and scrubs were getting their asses beat by other team’s bench guys and scrubs. That was the canary in the coal mine regarding this coaching staff. If collapsing down the stretch wasnt |
|
|
|
Post by lightsout42 on Sept 26, 2022 14:00:46 GMT -7
I don't think any of us truly are either, but this is very familiar territory that we need to avoid. Starts with the Texans next week for sure... I will give you some belief in your 'it is the coaching' blame game, as I think Staley and staff need to sit back and be realistic in the plan for the Texans. It does nobody any good to ask a player to do something he is not able to do....in fact it is foolish. Look at the capabilities of the players expected to be playing, and build realistic game plans. If there are no realistic approaches, go full on crazy.....throw the book out the window, and call whatever makes the players happy. Trick plays on offence, wild blitz packages on defence.....just be reckless! “It does nobody any good to ask a player to do something he is not able to do....in fact it is foolish.” — You mean our entire defense last year? |
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Sept 26, 2022 15:06:15 GMT -7
They have a disaster of an oline out on the field.....the RB's have just been spectacular this season, the WR's have at least be decent to good, and your best player, even injured, is Herbert. Yea, expect a bunch of passing...... I told you guys, losing linsley was a huge loss. They are ALL NFL caliber players, they were all drafted (mostly). Ekeler was undrafted and look at him... Talent is a lame excuse to give a pass to poor coaching, game planning, and playcalling. The players would not be here or make the final roster if they were not talented, you should pick another hill to die on. Straight out of the mouth screaming for TT's head because he did get better players....... We are speaking about this last game, right? Yea, go into the game without Linsley, Allen, or JC.....do your game plan.....then lose Bosa, Lose Slater.....just look at the names replacing pro bowl talent. Of course it the freaking coaches fault......tabernak!
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Sept 26, 2022 15:11:25 GMT -7
I will give you some belief in your 'it is the coaching' blame game, as I think Staley and staff need to sit back and be realistic in the plan for the Texans. It does nobody any good to ask a player to do something he is not able to do....in fact it is foolish. Look at the capabilities of the players expected to be playing, and build realistic game plans. If there are no realistic approaches, go full on crazy.....throw the book out the window, and call whatever makes the players happy. Trick plays on offence, wild blitz packages on defence.....just be reckless! I agree with you but... If you told Staley or Lombardi that one of their backups could not do something a starter could would they agree with you? Next man up... So yes I think you are correct about adjusting the gameplan. My response to their argument is why is this guy starting over that guy then? Clearly what you are thinking the coaching staff would say is simply coach speak. Everybody knows different talent levels exist, refusing to acknowledge that when game planning due to injuries is beyond delusional. I mean clearly Houston won't be doing anything different with Slater out.......because you know, they all got drafted, so....
|
|
|
|
Post by frozendisc on Sept 26, 2022 15:17:29 GMT -7
They are ALL NFL caliber players, they were all drafted (mostly). Ekeler was undrafted and look at him... Talent is a lame excuse to give a pass to poor coaching, game planning, and playcalling. The players would not be here or make the final roster if they were not talented, you should pick another hill to die on. Yep they had all off season and training camp to build a 53 man roster capable of playing in the NFL. When I said the team looked like shit in the pre season everyone said don’t worry moekid these guys won’t be playing on Sunday. But the point missed was that our bench guys and scrubs were getting their asses beat by other team’s bench guys and scrubs. That was the canary in the coal mine regarding this coaching staff. If collapsing down the stretch wasnt I agree......I hate the starters don't play a down, think it is just stupid. I also said the club will go as far as the health of the starting group takes them, because the reserves are not very good. Chargers starting group looked great on paper......it seems the opponents did not get that message.
|
|
|
|
Post by afboltfan on Sept 26, 2022 15:54:39 GMT -7
I agree with you but... If you told Staley or Lombardi that one of their backups could not do something a starter could would they agree with you? Next man up... So yes I think you are correct about adjusting the gameplan. My response to their argument is why is this guy starting over that guy then? Clearly what you are thinking the coaching staff would say is simply coach speak. Everybody knows different talent levels exist, refusing to acknowledge that when game planning due to injuries is beyond delusional. I mean clearly Houston won't be doing anything different with Slater out.......because you know, they all got drafted, so.... I'm not refusing to acknowledge that, obviously there is a 1st string and 2nd string for a reason. ALL NFL teams will tell you "next man up" they PLAN for that, what do you think practice is for? I'm also not saying execution by the players is not a factor, it is... Bottom line is we had 10 DAYS to plan for this team AT HOME, and the coaches failed the players more than the players failed them.
|
|
|
|
Post by afboltfan on Sept 26, 2022 15:58:21 GMT -7
They are ALL NFL caliber players, they were all drafted (mostly). Ekeler was undrafted and look at him... Talent is a lame excuse to give a pass to poor coaching, game planning, and playcalling. The players would not be here or make the final roster if they were not talented, you should pick another hill to die on. Straight out of the mouth screaming for TT's head because he did get better players....... We are speaking about this last game, right? Yea, go into the game without Linsley, Allen, or JC.....do your game plan.....then lose Bosa, Lose Slater.....just look at the names replacing pro bowl talent. Of course it the freaking coaches fault......tabernak! 10 days! Good teams play to the strengths of the entire team... Loser teams make excuses when the Pro Bowlers get hurt.
|
|
|
|
Post by jean74 on Sept 26, 2022 16:46:10 GMT -7
Really just need to figure out how to get in the OL there. As need to better protect Herbert there.
|
|
