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Post by woodeye on Mar 23, 2019 8:43:36 GMT -7
In the Lamp poll thread, where you called the poll stupid. The poll is stupid, as most are, but my thinking polls are stupid has little to do with you claiming I have said I have "special smarts" on Lamp being a bust or not. "Who's crying now ?" Steve Perry
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Post by Chargeroo on Mar 23, 2019 8:46:20 GMT -7
I'm sure Dez still has some gas left in the tank, but face it: KA, HH and Mike Will are going to get the majority of the looks from PR. Imagine what happens when we're halfway through the season and Dez only has about 8 catches and 150 yards...you don't think he'll react??? T Will had 41 receptions last year so what makes you think Dez would have only 8/16?
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Post by woodeye on Mar 23, 2019 8:46:57 GMT -7
Did you think it was over ?
my Homie sj
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Post by topcat on Mar 23, 2019 8:49:27 GMT -7
There were many on the previous board who "trusted" in AJ Smith for years...then we started to see how many of his moves, especially bloated and ill-deserved contract extensions, bloated and ill-deserved FA deals, his feuds with players and coaches, showed that in spite of his early success, he had his issues, serious issues. Hopefully, TT has learned from his early mistakes and seems to be making more sound player personnel moves as of late. But then, that's a big part of the reason for forums like this--to speculate, to opine, and to learn from each other regarding how to improve the Charger roster. I think with the emergence of J. Spanos into the hierarchy of the Bolts, the club has eliminated the 'unilateral' decisions by any GM. It appears the 'AJ' mistakes are not to be repeated, just by that change alone. While I said "trust TT', clearly there is a team in place, with TT as GM being the prominent face on decisions that were collected through that team's effort. I love the diverse opinions being put forth, as they can be quite interesting. Yep...I think you're right, M. Frozen...TT doesn't seem to be a dominating as AJ was...and we all know AJ and Marty weren't even on speaking terms, so obviously AJ wouldn't take any input from Marty on player personnel decision...AJ was kind of like Kevin Costner as GM of the Browns in that laughable movie, "Draft Day." The way he would make draft decisions without any consultation with scouts and, very AJ-like, going against his coach...it's a COMMITTEE, at least it should be, with the GM making the final decision, but very few GM's are going to go against a clear consensus of the committee, based on months of scouting and placement on the draft big board...
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Post by topcat on Mar 23, 2019 8:52:31 GMT -7
I'm sure Dez still has some gas left in the tank, but face it: KA, HH and Mike Will are going to get the majority of the looks from PR. Imagine what happens when we're halfway through the season and Dez only has about 8 catches and 150 yards...you don't think he'll react??? T Will had 41 receptions last year so what makes you think Dez would have only 8/16? I said, "halfway through the season," and it was a hypothetical. Actually, with Dez, the stats wouldn't even have to mean that much. All it would take is for Rivers to complete a few passes to KA, Mike Will, HH and Ekkie, before Dez starts to feel left out and throws a tantrum on the sideline like he did with the Cowboys..."I was open, man, COME ON!"
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Post by Chargeroo on Mar 23, 2019 8:52:52 GMT -7
Thanks! That's the value of a forum...much like a productive committee in a company or organization...we bring our diverse backgrounds, opinions, experiences, and together, hopefully hash out a finished product. All along the way, it's important to be respectful and courteous. I have been in some committee or board meetings where tempers got in the way a bit, so let's all try to give our opinions without some of the name-calling I've been hearing lately. I value all of your opinions... Amen TC. I've wondered if others are getting as tired of the back and forth between Frozen and Woodeye as I am.In fact, I wonder if they even realize how out of hand it has become? How about a truce?
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Post by topcat on Mar 23, 2019 9:03:52 GMT -7
Thanks! That's the value of a forum...much like a productive committee in a company or organization...we bring our diverse backgrounds, opinions, experiences, and together, hopefully hash out a finished product. All along the way, it's important to be respectful and courteous. I have been in some committee or board meetings where tempers got in the way a bit, so let's all try to give our opinions without some of the name-calling I've been hearing lately. I value all of your opinions... Amen TC. I've wondered if others are getting as tired of the back and forth between Frozen and Woodeye as I am.In fact, I wonder if they even realize how out of hand it has become? How about a truce? Yep...agree...come on, everybody! Let's be nice...
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 23, 2019 9:12:45 GMT -7
I think with the emergence of J. Spanos into the hierarchy of the Bolts, the club has eliminated the 'unilateral' decisions by any GM. It appears the 'AJ' mistakes are not to be repeated, just by that change alone. While I said "trust TT', clearly there is a team in place, with TT as GM being the prominent face on decisions that were collected through that team's effort. I love the diverse opinions being put forth, as they can be quite interesting. Yep...I think you're right, M. Frozen...TT doesn't seem to be a dominating as AJ was...and we all know AJ and Marty weren't even on speaking terms, so obviously AJ wouldn't take any input from Marty on player personnel decision...AJ was kind of like Kevin Costner as GM of the Browns in that laughable movie, "Draft Day." The way he would make draft decisions without any consultation with scouts and, very AJ-like, going against his coach...it's a COMMITTEE, at least it should be, with the GM making the final decision, but very few GM's are going to go against a clear consensus of the committee, based on months of scouting and placement on the draft big board... I have no idea how AJ actually was. I know how he was portrayed in the media, which might or might not be a fair portrayal. AJ matters little, as the Bolts seem to have changed their internal structure of responsibilities, or power structure if you prefer. Clearly the compiling of information is done collectively, as is the plan moving forward I would assume. How actual draft day decisions are arrived is another area of unknown. I seriously doubt that TT just makes the decision, as while he certainly has a strong voice in the room, my guess is J Spanos has just as strong of a voice. Add in HC, Asst. coaches, scouts that might be in the room, there are plenty of voices....TT just gets the fame/blame for the pick, GM's being the face of the Admin staff. Regardless of their process, it seems to be working, as the roster is improving each off season, and the missed picks are not a crazy amount.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 23, 2019 9:12:50 GMT -7
I am sick of it too.
Make your judgement call.
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Post by woodeye on Mar 23, 2019 9:21:00 GMT -7
I ask all of you should I stop being a moderator ?
frozen seems to have not liked that idea from the beginning,
and he "avoids."
There is the genesis of this.
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 23, 2019 9:25:06 GMT -7
I ask all of you should I stop being a moderator ? frozen seems to have not liked that idea from the beginning, and he "avoids." There is the genesis of this. You are wrong.....and you are fine as a Mod.
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Post by topcat on Mar 23, 2019 9:34:11 GMT -7
Yep...I think you're right, M. Frozen...TT doesn't seem to be a dominating as AJ was...and we all know AJ and Marty weren't even on speaking terms, so obviously AJ wouldn't take any input from Marty on player personnel decision...AJ was kind of like Kevin Costner as GM of the Browns in that laughable movie, "Draft Day." The way he would make draft decisions without any consultation with scouts and, very AJ-like, going against his coach...it's a COMMITTEE, at least it should be, with the GM making the final decision, but very few GM's are going to go against a clear consensus of the committee, based on months of scouting and placement on the draft big board... I have no idea how AJ actually was. I know how he was portrayed in the media, which might or might not be a fair portrayal. AJ matters little, as the Bolts seem to have changed their internal structure of responsibilities, or power structure if you prefer. Clearly the compiling of information is done collectively, as is the plan moving forward I would assume. How actual draft day decisions are arrived is another area of unknown. I seriously doubt that TT just makes the decision, as while he certainly has a strong voice in the room, my guess is J Spanos has just as strong of a voice. Add in HC, Asst. coaches, scouts that might be in the room, there are plenty of voices....TT just gets the fame/blame for the pick, GM's being the face of the Admin staff. Regardless of their process, it seems to be working, as the roster is improving each off season, and the missed picks are not a crazy amount. Yep...probably true...it's kind of like the book, "Animal Farm": "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." TT and Baby Spanos are most probably the biggest voices, but I have to think TT as GM has the final say...but if TT were to be going against Spanos frequently, then it's a sign he's about to get the boot, but not likely...
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Post by topcat on Mar 23, 2019 9:37:23 GMT -7
I ask all of you should I stop being a moderator ? frozen seems to have not liked that idea from the beginning, and he "avoids." There is the genesis of this. Whether as a mod or not, I for one, value your research and input, Wood, especially on potential draftees and FA's...
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Post by frozendisc on Mar 23, 2019 9:37:44 GMT -7
I have no idea how AJ actually was. I know how he was portrayed in the media, which might or might not be a fair portrayal. AJ matters little, as the Bolts seem to have changed their internal structure of responsibilities, or power structure if you prefer. Clearly the compiling of information is done collectively, as is the plan moving forward I would assume. How actual draft day decisions are arrived is another area of unknown. I seriously doubt that TT just makes the decision, as while he certainly has a strong voice in the room, my guess is J Spanos has just as strong of a voice. Add in HC, Asst. coaches, scouts that might be in the room, there are plenty of voices....TT just gets the fame/blame for the pick, GM's being the face of the Admin staff. Regardless of their process, it seems to be working, as the roster is improving each off season, and the missed picks are not a crazy amount. Yep...probably true...it's kind of like the book, "Animal Farm": "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." TT and Baby Spanos are most probably the biggest voices, but I have to think TT as GM has the final say... Really hard to say..... my guess is they (TT and Spanos) both listen to AL and his coaches, a scout or two perhaps, then they hash it out between themselves. We will never know I suspect.
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Post by Chargeroo on Mar 23, 2019 11:36:36 GMT -7
I ask all of you should I stop being a moderator ? frozen seems to have not liked that idea from the beginning, and he "avoids." There is the genesis of this. NO - you should stop "taking the bait" though. Someone I know said long ago "turn the other check". 
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